Trichromatic Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 What 'really' is the Rafale deal? NOT for dummies. Here's the teaser, stay tuned for more later today... pic.twitter.com/5p2lj9xOhY— Congress (@INCIndia) August 14, 2018 UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Rafale deal from Dassault, not defence ministry: Reliance Group Quote New Delhi: Anil Ambani’s Reliance Group on Sunday said it received the Rafale jet deal from Dassault Aviation SA and not the defence ministry. “Reliance Defence or any other Reliance group company has not received any contract from the MoD till date, related to 36 Rafale aircraft. This is absolutely unfounded and incorrect,” said Reliance Defence Ltd chief executive Rajesh Dhingra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Rafale deal for dummies... pic.twitter.com/wqk2RwHreh— Amit Malviya (@amitmalviya) August 13, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Rafale विमान एक, दाम अनेक। pic.twitter.com/bbbwN0ExNt— BJP (@BJP4India) August 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Yashwant, Shourie also making a lot of noise on the topic. Why doesn't one opposition critic drag gormint to Court and prove it there ? It will be a major boost to them if they can prove anything close to a scam. Are there no obvious scams to exploit ? I recall Rahulji used to protest on trivial issues like BCCI early on, but its been 4 years now. UrmiSinhaRay and beetle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Clarke said: Yashwant, Shourie also making a lot of noise on the topic. Why doesn't one opposition critic drag gormint to Court and prove it there ? It will be a major boost to them if they can prove anything close to a scam. Are there no obvious scams to exploit ? I recall Rahulji used to protest on trivial issues like BCCI early on, but its been 4 years now. Abhijit Iyer-Mitra debating Arun Shourie explaining the politics of the deal. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 5 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Abe yar. Don't tell me this is real. How can someone be that stupid? UrmiSinhaRay and Lala 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShankarShailendra Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Abhijit Iyer-Mitra debating Arun Shourie explaining the politics of the deal. He is a top class expert on defence and foreign affairs, sadly not much of his content available on YouTube. Really liked the way he coherently explained it. And RaGa just being RaGa, hell bent on jeopardizing our relations with France. Edited August 14, 2018 by ShankarShailendra UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 kuch to gadbad hai....how is debt ridden Anil Ambani reliance group contracted by Dassault Trichromatic and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: kuch to gadbad hai....how is debt ridden Anil Ambani reliance group contracted by Dassault This is question which no one is answering. Everyone will just say that contract will be between reliance and dassault. Govt has nothing to do with it. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: This is question which no one is answering. Everyone will just say that contract will be between reliance and dassault. Govt has nothing to do with it. Dassault must have seen something or thought something about it before handling it to Anil Ambani group. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: This is question which no one is answering. Everyone will just say that contract will be between reliance and dassault. Govt has nothing to do with it. Government has no say in what contracts Dassault has with third party and the selection of the third party. Watch the video I posted where Abhjit Iyer-Mitra explains it to Shourie in clear terms and also why we are paying more for less now. He is doing much more to explain the GoI stand than somebody from the Govt themselves. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Government has no say in what contracts Dassault has with third party and the selection of the third party. Watch the video I posted where Abhjit Iyer-Mitra explains it to Shourie in clear terms and also why we are paying more for less now. He is doing much more to explain the GoI stand than somebody from the Govt themselves. That still doesn't answer the question. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: That still doesn't answer the question. You want to know why Reliance was chosen? May be they got a cheap deal from a company (it was a shipping parts manufacturer diversifying into a new venture) UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Trichromatic said: This is question which no one is answering. Everyone will just say that contract will be between reliance and dassault. Govt has nothing to do with it. 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: kuch to gadbad hai....how is debt ridden Anil Ambani reliance group contracted by Dassault It doesn't need answering since everyone knows India works that way. There won't be any paper trail on this but govts give a gentle push towards a particular side everywhere & more so in countries with higher levels of corruption and/or lower levels of transparency. Its not all that bad, in a way this was required. No private sector company will have the order book and experience of HAL which has had a monopoly and that hasn't helped build a local defense industry. I'm sure the bigger groups (Mahindra, Tata, L&T and others) will all build key equipment for the armed forces in the near future. UrmiSinhaRay and mishra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 do opposition got anything else in hand against modi? Nothing, literally nothing. So all the ho-halla is only creating some noise. Yoda-esque 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 19 hours ago, Clarke said: It doesn't need answering since everyone knows India works that way. There won't be any paper trail on this but govts give a gentle push towards a particular side everywhere & more so in countries with higher levels of corruption and/or lower levels of transparency. Its not all that bad, in a way this was required. No private sector company will have the order book and experience of HAL which has had a monopoly and that hasn't helped build a local defense industry. I'm sure the bigger groups (Mahindra, Tata, L&T and others) will all build key equipment for the armed forces in the near future. Yes that is a good idea. HAL has been a big failure. mishra and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 So all this ho-halla by these idiots, have you seen them before? Like for Bofors, 2G, Coal scam? Did you ever see them worry about tax payers money back then. "Sala 100 chuhe khake congressi parliament ko chale" to question NDA on Rafale deal and all disgruntled lot is on the bandwagon. So clearly these guys only have politics behind it and nothing. Congress, TMC, SP, BSP & RJD are the last parties who can question anyone on corruption. These are so lost parties that even after conviction of LPY they are firmly standing behind him. Do they even have legit stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/15/2018 at 3:58 PM, rkt.india said: kuch to gadbad hai....how is debt ridden Anil Ambani reliance group contracted by Dassault most infra companies have worse debt ratio than rnaval .. like gmr infra but they keep operartng airpirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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