Sooda Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 What do you keen observers make of the Shaw selection for the remaining tests ahead of Agarwal. And more to the point, who is the better batsman and test prospect- him or Agarwal? Link to comment
SK_IH Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Both are unproven in so far as Test Cricket is concerned,however Mayank gives you that Dinesh Karthik feeling (if you know what I mean).So,am happy with Shaw getting the preference. However Mayank may also get his chances soon. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I dnt rate Mayank highly, just doesnt convince me Link to comment
BlueBee Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Shaw for Vijay is a good but I think Mayank too deserves a chance in place of Dhawan. 3K runs in a season is no joke, he convinces you or not is a different thing but he's made a case for himself and a very very strong one that is. Lannister, MCcricket and diga 3 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, BlueBee said: Shaw for Vijay is a good but I think Mayank too deserves a chance in place of Dhawan. 3K runs in a season is no joke, he convinces you or not is a different thing but he's made a case for himself and a very very strong one that is. i agree personal opinions aside the guy has made a huge case for himself and he shud atleast get a chance If dhawan fails remaining 2 games, mayank shud get in WI test series Link to comment
Sachinism Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 45 minutes ago, SK_IH said: Both are unproven in so far as Test Cricket is concerned,however Mayank gives you that Dinesh Karthik feeling (if you know what I mean).So,am happy with Shaw getting the preference. However Mayank may also get his chances soon. I agree with you. Do kinda feel for Mayank, but whenever I've seen him, not been too impressed. Is your pic from yday's press conference? RS looked like he'd been drinking the whole match Link to comment
SK_IH Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, Sachinism said: I agree with you. Do kinda feel for Mayank, but whenever I've seen him, not been too impressed. Is your pic from yday's press conference? RS looked like he'd been drinking the whole match yes its that smug face from yesterday's presser Link to comment
jusarrived Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I honestly feel its too late for Agarwal , I would go with Shaw though little unfair Link to comment
youngindia Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Its a wrong comparison for the simple reason that Shaw will get a special treatment that 99.8% of others don't. Exceptional talents will leapfrog everyone. Only when was the question. Shaw is undoubtedly the better prospect . Mayank has worked and refined his game better through several seasons of trial and error. Mayank and Vihari have to perform consistently to get their chance. Players of Exceptional promise will be fast tracked and can bull doze their way to a slot. For others, getting that slot in the indian team may require several years of consistency and a chance of luck with a vacancy. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Sooda Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, youngindia said: Its a wrong comparison for the simple reason that Shaw will get a special treatment that 99.8% of others don't. Exceptional talents will leapfrog everyone. Only when was the question. Shaw is undoubtedly the better prospect . Mayank has worked and refined his game better through several seasons of trial and error. Mayank and Vihari have to perform consistently to get their chance. Players of Exceptional promise will be fast tracked and can bull doze their way to a slot. For others, getting that slot in the indian team may require several years of consistency and a chance of luck with a vacancy. It's precisely that trait that for me would make him a better option for now. Older, knows his game better? Shaw possibly too young and needs a season or two more in FC. Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Mayank should be picked for shorter formats... he somehow gives me Dhawan vibes... And yes, Shaw should replace Dhawan at Southampton Link to comment
Lannister Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 If they had selected Siraj along with Shaw then I wouldn't have a problem with this. But it seems like Shaw has been pushed into the team because of a strong backing from Mumbai lobby, while the others are left with having to prove themselves more. Mayank Agarwal was hard done by the petty politics. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
diga Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 23 hours ago, BlueBee said: 3K runs in a season is no joke, he convinces you or not is a different thing but he's made a case for himself and a very very strong one that is. It is precisely for this reason that he deserves a chance.. may be a run of 3 ODIs atleast Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Lannister said: If they had selected Siraj along with Shaw then I wouldn't have a problem with this. But it seems like Shaw has been pushed into the team because of a strong backing from Mumbai lobby, while the others are left with having to prove themselves more. Mayank Agarwal was hard done by the petty politics. Shaw is a special talent , If mumbai lobby was the reason iyer wud have gone for nair or vihari Here on ICF many doubt mayank, m sure in cricketing circle many do to..........jst becoz u hve piled on runs in domestic doesnt gurantee u success at international level N a word is taken from dravid to before selecting someone- panyda n jayant got a strong backing from dravid Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Roshanrocks Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) I vote for Prithvi Shaw . He has played a lot in English conditions and should do better than Mayank if given an opportunity. Edited August 24, 2018 by Roshanrocks Link to comment
Lannister Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Shaw is a special talent , If mumbai lobby was the reason iyer wud have gone for nair or vihari Here on ICF many doubt mayank, m sure in cricketing circle many do to..........jst becoz u hve piled on runs in domestic doesnt gurantee u success at international level N a word is taken from dravid to before selecting someone- panyda n jayant got a strong backing from dravid Iyer was also fast-tracked ahead of players like Pandey and Rahul and he just couldn't secure his place. Everyone knew he would've a hard time adjusting based on his technique and he still got his chance ahead of a well deserving players. Mayank was next-in-line with a top-performance in the last three seasons, atleast you need to award that performance otherwise there is no point in playing Ranjis. Players will eventually lose respect with the system and they will just focus on the IPL. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Lannister said: Iyer was also fast-tracked ahead of players like Pandey and Rahul and he just couldn't secure his place. Everyone knew he would've a hard time adjusting based on his technique and he still got his chance ahead of a well deserving players. Iyer wasnt fast tracked he made tons of runs in Domestic n A tours PAndey n rahul debut before iyer so how was he fats track ahead of him????? Quote Mayank was next-in-line with a top-performance in the last three seasons, atleast you need to award that performance otherwise there is no point in playing Ranjis. Their is no fixed line, going by the line rishi dhawan was ahead of pandya Their is no fixed rule, neither their shud be U find a special talent pick him, u find a better talent ...to hell with the line Quote Players will eventually lose respect with the system and they will just focus on the IPL. thats their problem if they loose hope so soon, international cricket wnt be easy for them if they have that attitude Edited August 24, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 express bowling and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Mayank Agarwal toured for Ind A to England. He scored 69 runs @ avg of 17.25 Shaw scored 250 runs @ avg of 62.50. Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Mayank Agarwal toured for Ind A to England. He scored 69 runs @ avg of 17.25 Shaw scored 250 runs @ avg of 62.50. Therein lies the answer. We are looking for test batsmen who can handle the moving ball. Shaw has done that better than most others. Link to comment
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