Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Mosher]

3 wickets for Umesh so far. Getting  rewarded for bowling in the right channel. Looks to be bowling well within himself. Pace around 135-141k's.

Edited June 15, 2018 by Mosher

[rkt.india]

46 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

1)  There is a difference between attacking the stumps and bowling poor deliveries on the leg and down the leg.

 

2)  This pitch has good to decent carry.  Wicket keeper collected the balls at proper height.

 

3)  If the strategy is attacking the stumps then they needed to bowl much quicker.

 

4)  Umesh was basically trying to bowl outswingers ... and attacking the stumps was not his strategy most of the times. Ishant was trying to attack the stumps ... but at just fast-medium pace.

 

 

pitch ha good carry only when you bowl back of a length. it is looping when pitched full. and Umesh did not bowl many leg stump deliveries.

Edited June 15, 2018 by rkt.india

[vishalvirsingh]

i loved the two clean bowled that Ishant got...good swing in at least one of the bowled, ball came in sharply and such balls are kinda unplayable as batsman is of the view that ball is leaving the wickets ..those two were truly impressive balls and though his speed was not very impressive but first time i found him bowling full or close to full and the length that is required to get wickets...ishant too bowled upto 143K

 

Umesh also got few LBW and caught in slips and he always has that skidding ball that gets him lbw so same ball can be hit for a 4 and can get u a wicket so I feel he has to take a chance some times and afghanisthan batsman could play him well and he gets some wickets lbw against even better batsman. umesh bowled 136 to 144k

in short i liked what umesh and ishant dished out and ashwin was Magnificent and even Jadeja was fantastic.

Hardik bowled average or even BAD...did not get a wicket even on a Helping Green Pitch and bowled a bit slow too....he was not too impressive as a bowler but in batting and  fielding he was fantastic...

[LORD_analyst]

bhuvi in tests, has most swing movement among all pacers-

 

@express bowling  @Mosher  @speedheat

Edited June 18, 2018 by LORD_analyst

[raki05]

On 5/27/2018 at 11:55 PM, S_pace said:

Looks like there is literally a wall between 149.9 and 150. Someone should have crossed or touched 150 after bowling so close to 150k.

 

Nagarkotti might have done it , he was clearly faster than mavi in u19 wc

[Vilander]

53 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

bhuvi in tests, has most swing movement among all pacers-

 

@express bowling  @Mosher  @speedheat

would love to see this stat for Shami..i think he would be between Anderson and Broad in terms of seam heavy. Amir is interesting...very less seam movement.

[Vilander]

I think its understandable for them to bowl within themselves not wanting to pick up an injury ahead of England.

[LORD_analyst]

[tweaker]

Bhubaneswar 134 k

[tweaker]

Bhubaneswar 136 k

[tweaker]

Pandya bowling 112 k to 118 k

[tweaker]

Pandya 135 k

[tweaker]

Pandya 113 k ball hit for 6

[Mosher]

What pace is Bumrah bowling at?

[express bowling]

48 minutes ago, Mosher said:

What pace is Bumrah bowling at?

Missed most of his first spell bro.

 

They are not showing speed every ball ... and hawk eye is not available on BCCI.tv either.

[RAZPOR]

Pandya was slower today than usual

[express bowling]

One cannot fault Deepak Chahar's selection in the Indian T20I squad. Performed really well in the 50 over India-A games and bowled well with the new ball in the IPL.  

 

However, our Team management and selectors should keep an eye on the pace bowling composition as well.

 

Kaul, Bhuvi and Chahar are all short to medium height medium-fast swing bowlers.  Genuine fast bowler Umesh is preferring to bowl fast-medium these days and is also medium height and always lacked natural bounce . Next in line seamer, Shardul Thakur, is a short bowler who lacks genuine pace too.

 

This Indian attack ( without Bumrah and Shami )  lacks both genuine pace as well as natural bounce. There is a sameness to this attack.

 

Having some bowlers with pace is not that important in T20s ... but becomes quite important in ODIs and very important in tests.

 

I hope our Team management and selectors remember this while choosing the squad for tests and choosing a backup pacer, if needed, for ODIs.

 

p.s - Never thought that a Team lead by pace-loving-Kohli will have 3 medium fast bowlers and a lone quick.

Edited July 3, 2018 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

One cannot fault Deepak Chahar's selection in the Indian T20I squad. Performed really well in the 50 over India-A games and bowled well with the new ball in the IPL.  

 

However, our Team management and selectors should keep an eye on the pace bowling composition as well.

 

Kaul, Bhuvi and Chahar are all short to medium height medium-fast swing bowlers.  Umesh is preferring to bowl fast-medium these days and is also medium height . Next in line seamer, Shardul Thakur, is a short bowler who lacks genuine pace too.

 

This Indian attack ( without Bumrah and Shami )  lacks both genuine pace as well as natural bounce. There is a sameness to this attack.

 

Having some bowlers with pace is not that important in T20s ... but becomes quite important in ODIs and very important in tests.

 

I hope our Team management and selectors remember this while choosing the squad for tests and choosing a backup pacer, if needed, for ODIs.

 

p.s - Never thought that a Team lead by pace-loving-Kohli will have 3 medium fast bowlers and a lone quick.

It is fine for T20s. T20s require more variations of pace than just extra pace.  Would like to see Khaleel in ODIs ASAP.

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

It is fine for T20s. T20s require more variations of pace than just extra pace.  Would like to see Khaleel in ODIs ASAP.

That is what I said.  Pace is not that important in T20s ...  but I hope that this mindset does not creep into the ODI squad readjustment as well if Bumrah is not available.

 

Team India have this habit of wrongly thinking that a player who does well in T20s is automatically good for ODIs as well.

 

ODI pace bowling is closer to test matches than T20s, for the first 40 overs ... lots of deck-hitting good length off-stump or channel deliveries are needed at full pace.  Some fast bowlers would be needed in ODIs.

Edited July 3, 2018 by express bowling

[Vilander]

14 minutes ago, express bowling said:

One cannot fault Deepak Chahar's selection in the Indian T20I squad. Performed really well in the 50 over India-A games and bowled well with the new ball in the IPL.  

 

However, our Team management and selectors should keep an eye on the pace bowling composition as well.

 

Kaul, Bhuvi and Chahar are all short to medium height medium-fast swing bowlers.  Genuine fast bowler Umesh is preferring to bowl fast-medium these days and is also medium height and always lacked natural bounce . Next in line seamer, Shardul Thakur, is a short bowler who lacks genuine pace too.

 

This Indian attack ( without Bumrah and Shami )  lacks both genuine pace as well as natural bounce. There is a sameness to this attack.

 

Having some bowlers with pace is not that important in T20s ... but becomes quite important in ODIs and very important in tests.

 

I hope our Team management and selectors remember this while choosing the squad for tests and choosing a backup pacer, if needed, for ODIs.

 

p.s - Never thought that a Team lead by pace-loving-Kohli will have 3 medium fast bowlers and a lone quick.

lacks geneuin pace. looks like its same old same old now.