Vilander Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 so Saini fell on the way side.. Hope Avesh finds some luck. All hopebon Prasidh now. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Vilander said: so Saini fell on the way side.. Hope Avesh finds some luck. All hopebon Prasidh now. Avesh's been very poor. Saini is fine. Should get more games. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, ShebbySB said: Shami consistently hitting 145 kph...good to see. deadly pace and accuracy both...shammi is red hot now. ShebbySB, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Pollack said: Avesh's been very poor. Saini is fine. Should get more games. this was avesh's first game. No quick bowler will do well in his very first over unless he is very experienced. I am completely sure of his TALENT and Pace, little more support and he will be bowling very well. harshal should be dropped and avesh should be supported. Mosher, Suhaan and express bowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vilander said: so Saini fell on the way side.. Hope Avesh finds some luck. All hopebon Prasidh now. all the three are top talents and captains need to understand and trust on them , invest on them. all three are tigers, if captains feed them well , play them in the 11, that captain will get benefit exactly like ganguly, he supported Nehra, Zaheer Khan , srinath ,RP SIngh , bhajji and all these bowlers returned the favour. Srinath came out of retirement to come back and play for ganguly , zak got some major breakthrough's for ganguly in many games. bhajji won ganguly a few tests. if harshal, deepak chahar , Sid kaul are fed and supported by captains, these guys will not be able to beat INTERNATIONAL batsman. International batsman are not average batsman but are Supreme talents and international bowlers are not DOmestic pacers or spinners but as on today, each and every team has at least two 140K Bowlers with great Accuracy. there is a dinda and a shammi both played for bengal and bowled with nearly same pace but DINDA failed in international cricket and Shammi has succeeded, difference is mental aspect and that minor difference that creates the difference. there was a left handed batsman called WV Raman, he scored tons of runs in domestic cricket, always the highest, when he was selected into the international team, some peer batsman said he will become a permanent member in international cricket and in an indian team, but he failed. even one atul bedade was declared as the hardest hitter of a cricket ball , much harder than yuvraj singh but he failed in international cricket. cutting the crap, one has to identify the STRONG bowlers, fast bowlers and support them instead of supporting SID KAUL, khaleel , sandeep sharma , unadkat, vinay kumar - these are weak bowlers and international batsman target to Slaughter these bowlers and even succeed. batsman like warner . kohli, bairstaw are like RAKSHAS to these weak bowlers. Edited April 1, 2019 by vishalvirsingh express bowling, speedheat, Suhaan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) Shami in his 3rd and 4th overs Slower 131 ... cutter Slower 144 ... Pant BOWLED 143 133 ... cutter 141 143 145 ... Vihari BOWLED 142 145 141 2 superb overs with lots of stump directed quick balls. Edited April 2, 2019 by express bowling Real McCoy, Suhaan, speedheat and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, express bowling said: Shami in his 3rd and 4th overs Slower 131 ... cutter Slower 144 ... Pant BOWLED 143 133 ... cutter 141 143 145 ... Vihari BOWLED 142 145 141 2 superb overs with lots of stump directed quick balls. to beat vihari and Pant is not a Joke ..both his balls were around 145k and he skidded to , on the stumps. only idea to remain there was to defend those balls but batsman went for shots, thats what happens. good fast bowlers when they bowl super fast are also correct in line and length and inexperienced fast bowlers err in the line and length but that does not mean they cannot be good fast bowlers as they do have the pace that is required. Some hardcore practice in the nets under a STRICT bowling coach can make them improve. but there is hardly any chance of SID kaul, vinay and weak bowlers like khaleel, they try to bowl fast but when the batsman know that these guys are trundlers , they are attacked by batsman, finally they are throw out of international cricket. i have seen ZAK bowling slower than RP singh but he created such an aura and his delivery stride was so over powering that all batsman remained in back foot to him. Suhaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) I hope Dada supports Avesh Khan and gives him a few matches on the trot. Edited April 2, 2019 by express bowling Mosher, Suhaan and Real McCoy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) The young Indian fast bowlers, like Avesh and Saini, need to bowl more deliveries targeting the top of off stump at full pace even in T20s. Unless a pacer is trying yorkers or slower balls or surprise bouncers ... this is still the best delivery in T20s. No room to work with and very little time to react if pacer is quick. Edited April 2, 2019 by express bowling Suhaan, Real McCoy and Mosher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Pollack said: Avesh's been very poor. Saini is fine. Should get more games. Avesh and Saini both are exciting talent, both are different,their bowling length is also different,this is one format where you will find bowlers who vary their pace suceed quite often which didn't happen with them, Saini wasn't varying ,which made him go for 4-40 on a patta,the more they play the better it is for their respective teams,but its a cut throat competition franchisees are not going to develop players for national team,they have their vested intersests express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, express bowling said: I hope Dada supports Avesh Khan and gives him a few matches on the trot. Avesh Khan bowls heavy balls,he needs to attack the stumps i feel,at the same time he also needs to use his art of bowling heavy balls to the batsmen which he did very well in initial matches last year,i remember he hurried Finch with a fast short delivery on to th chin at 148ks..just that need to brush his skills express bowling, Real McCoy, speedheat and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 If i am not wrong Shami has been consistently bowling fast since south Africa tour last year in all three formats. But according to his wife he is 36 year old Real McCoy, Suhaan, express bowling and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, speedheat said: If i am not wrong Shami has been consistently bowling fast since south Africa tour last year in all three formats. But according to his wife he is 36 year old He is bowling fast not express pace which is fairly possible at 36. UrmiSinhaRay and speedheat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, speedheat said: If i am not wrong Shami has been consistently bowling fast since south Africa tour last year in all three formats. But according to his wife he is 36 year old His pace varied a lot in SA. His pace became consistent in last one year after his issue with wife. He started working on his fitness after that and got fitter. speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pollack said: He is bowling fast not express pace which is fairly possible at 36. Not possible in tests. Even Lee/akhtar didn't bowl that quick at 36 in tests and they were express bowlers but their pace reduced. Shami isn't express. All bowlers lose pace at this agent example Anderson who bowled 145 in 2007, now 135. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, speedheat said: If i am not wrong Shami has been consistently bowling fast since south Africa tour last year in all three formats. But according to his wife he is 36 year old Shami has got a lot fitter by drilling lot of holes....... In his farm. express bowling, speedheat, Suhaan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Pollack said: He is bowling fast not express pace which is fairly possible at 36. Not possible, at 36 any bowler would lose his natural pace. Shami here is bowling with the same pace which he bowled 3-4 years ago. express bowling, Mosher and speedster 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, speedheat said: If i am not wrong Shami has been consistently bowling fast since south Africa tour last year in all three formats. But according to his wife he is 36 year old 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: His pace varied a lot in SA. His pace became consistent in last one year after his issue with wife. He started working on his fitness after that and got fitter. Shami has consistently bowled 135 k to 145 k since mid 2016 after returning from his knee surgery. And hitting 147 k on good days. SA series early 2018 was the only aberration. And even before that, since his debut in 2013, he used to touch the same high speeds and bowl the same quicker spells ... but occasionally bowled some 128 k to 138 k spells. This aspect has improved in the last 3 years. Edited April 2, 2019 by express bowling speedheat, Suhaan and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I think Umesh and Aaron are playing in the same match after many years. Vilander, express bowling, UrmiSinhaRay and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Good on Kohli to bring back Saini. express bowling, Suhaan, UrmiSinhaRay and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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