Shami over Pandya/Ash?

[Khota]

27 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

How do we know Shami's not fit? Who has said so? Last we saw of Shami he was bowling pretty well in warmup matches.

 

And as for Pandya being replaced by Umesh, why? Why would you weaken your batting against the best bowling attack you have come across? Ashwin replaced by Shami/Umesh makes sense but why on earth drop Pandya when he has performed well against Pakistan everytime he has played against them?

Shami did not look fluid enough. Umesh is much better on current form.

 

Pandya out is ver simple decision.  He cant bowl and his batting cannot be counted on. Umesh atleast you have a bowler. batting is a non issue for India so rather have bowler over batsman.

[gattaca]

Indian team is over all too defensive and won't make changes. This is happening since dhoni. Might be before too. So no change I expect we play same team.

[vvvslaxman]

26 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Indian team is over all too defensive and won't make changes. This is happening since dhoni. Might be before too. So no change I expect we play same team.

Kohli was not happy with Ash. I think he will be dropped. Not because of this performance alone. 1) lack of match fitness. he was so lethargic 2) These pitches offer nothing for his bowling style.

[The Dark Horse]

Dropping either of the two won't make much difference. But Ashwin should be dropped just to send a message. He needs to step up at least in terms of discipline.

[vvvslaxman]

India has Kedha Jadhav. Worst case we can use Yuvraj as well. No need of two specialist spinners in these conditions.

[asterix]

Kohli was not happy with Ash. I think he will be dropped. Not because of this performance alone. 1) lack of match fitness. he was so lethargic 2) These pitches offer nothing for his bowling style.

Yes, Kohli was annoyed when Ash dropped that catch. He might bring Shami in place of Ash. Jaddu, Kedar, UV, Rohit & Kohli himself can manage few overs if Pandya goes for runs...

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, asterix said:

Yes, Kohli was annoyed when Ash dropped that catch. He might bring Shami in place of Ash. Jaddu, Kedar, UV, Rohit & Kohli himself can manage few overs if Pandya goes for runs...

He has to. On such pattas pace of Shami will be much more useful than Ashwin who Pak hacks will look to murder. We already have Jaddu and some part-time spin of Jadhav which should suffice. Pakistan struggle more against pace than spin and Kohli should keep this in mind else we won't have too many wkt taking options in the middle overs.

[rkt.india]

BK-Shami should be the new ball pair. Bumrah is needed in middle overs where he can stem the run flow, put pressure and that usually does bring wickets. 

Edited June 16, 2017 by rkt.india

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

BK-Shami should be the new ball pair. Bumrah is needed in middle overs where he can stem the run flow, put pressure and brings wickets. 

yes I had this feeling we were wasting new ball with Bumrah. 

[New guy]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Kohli was not happy with Ash. I think he will be dropped. Not because of this performance alone. 1) lack of match fitness. he was so lethargic 2) These pitches offer nothing for his bowling style.

The look he gave after that dropped catch

[Vilander]

5 hours ago, asterix said:

Yes, Kohli was annoyed when Ash dropped that catch. He might bring Shami in place of Ash. Jaddu, Kedar, UV, Rohit & Kohli himself can manage few overs if Pandya goes for runs...

how was Shami's fielding in the warmup game, i wonder if it is match fitness issue.

[Ultimate_Game]

41 minutes ago, Vilander said:

how was Shami's fielding in the warmup game, i wonder if it is match fitness issue.

Shami played the whole Wc 2015 with a bum knee which needed surgery later on and put him out of cricket for more than 6 months. If he was effective then, he's more than fit now. he was clocking high 140s in IPL and was among the wkts in warm ups. No reason for him not to be played as he can handle pressure better than Umesh. Plus he can throw his bat around to score some quick runs.