NareshK Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) I think this should be the team going into the World Cup Dhawan Pant/Shreyas Iyer/KL Rahul/Sarfaraz - an aggressive opener who has the license to take advantage of powerplay and go after bowlers Kohli Rohit - will do a much better job at 4 as he struggles sometimes against swing as an opener KL Rahul/Kedhar Jadhav/Manish Pandey - a solid batsman who can build a partnership but can play attacking shots. Who can play spin and reverse swing well. Dhoni - I feel he is still good enough to play as of now. Good wicket keeper to spinners and has experience of playing big tournaments which counts. Can bat steadily and can hit at a good strike rate. Hardik Pandya Kuldeep Yadav/Chahal for a leggie wicket taking option (or) Krunal Pandya/Vijay Shankar or another all rounder option - A good bowling option who can also bat. Bhuvi Shami Bumrah/some other seamer Among seamers, I think we need 3 wicket taking fast bowlers irrespective of the opposition or pitch conditions, who can bowl well with the new ball, who can bowl reverse swing, who can bowl well at the death and can bowl a good line and length if conditions are flat. Umesh is not one of those bowlers because he can be a bit wayward on batting tracks and also loses his composure and starts bowling too short or wide when batsmen start attacking him. He has been given enough chances and he doesnt seem to fit the bill. Shami is good but he has injury problems. He can solve the team's bowling head aches if he can return back to his form. He can tick all the boxes that are needed of a good fast bowler in ODIs. Bumrah is a good LOI specialist who can bowl well at the death but he is not good with the new ball or with reverse swing. In other words, he is still not a wicket taker. If he improves and becomes a wicket taking bowler to go along with his other abilities, he should be in the side otherwise the team needs another seam bowling option. Jadeja - can come in if pitch is a bit dry and opposition is SA/Aus/Eng. Also a good slogger at the end and a great fielder. What do you think ? Edited June 23, 2017 by NareshK
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Well we have to try few players for most position to come to an ideal combination express bowling 1
Rasgulla Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Dhawan Pant Kohli Dhoni Pandey/KL Pandya Kedar Ash/jaddu Kuldeep Bhuvi Shami My XI
Cricketics Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 I won't go as far as 2 years for now and pick 2019wc combo as its too early to go that far we don't know how good Pant and co will turn out but I would like to go as far as six months from now and want to see the following odi team. I will keep Dhoni around at least for 5-6 months and let Pant or Ishan Kishan keep. My team I would like to see in next 6 months. Order can change depending if Pant can open. I will put 15 player squad Dhawan Rohit Kohli Rahul Pant Manish Dhoni Jadhav Pandya Bumrah Shami Bhuvi Thampi Kuldeep Jadeja In - Thampi, Manish Out - Yuvi, Ashwin Performance needs close attention - Jadeja, Dhoni Players who need to be rested/rotated so other youngsters can get in - Dhawan, Bhuvi(blBoth are doing well but later should be rest down the line to give chance to Thampi and co. There are many other youngsters who can be tried, but I will concentrate on this for now and even rest Dhawan later so players like Ishan Kishan, Iyer can be further introduced
NareshK Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) All the batsmen in the side like Dhawan, Kohli, Rohit, KL Rahul, Kedhar Jadhav are all specialists. So with Dhoni in the side, that gives no room for extra bowling options in case 1 or 2 bowlers have an off day. If Dhoni or Kedhar Jadhav(or KL Rahul) can be replaced by batting all rounders, it will give lot of balance but I doubt Krunal Pandya or Vijay Shankar are good enough to fill those spots. In any case, I cant see Dhoni being dropped for World Cup. Edited June 23, 2017 by NareshK Rasgulla 1
sandeep Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 I don't think Dhoni should be playing 2019 WC based on current form. I want to start auditioning replacement keepers ASAP - Pant is in the lead, but we don't know if he can do his thing at the international level. We need to identify the 'keeper-bat for white ball cricket latest by end of this year, so he has all of 2018 to play and be 'seasoned' by the time of the WC. I want a proper batsman who can bowl 8+ overs of decent spin for the 6/7/8 slot - Axar Patel or Krunal Pandya look like they could do that job. I want Manish Pandey, Kedar Jadhav and one more middle order bat to get more opportunities. The likes of KL Rahul, Shreyas Iyer, Sanju Samson need a proper run.
Rasgulla Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, NareshK said: In any case, I cant see Dhoni being dropped for World Cup. He won't be people day dream here.. let them live in their little shell
NareshK Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cricketics said: I won't go as far as 2 years for now and pick 2019wc combo as its too early to go that far we don't know how good Pant and co will turn out but I would like to go as far as six months from now and want to see the following odi team. I will keep Dhoni around at least for 5-6 months and let Pant or Ishan Kishan keep. My team I would like to see in next 6 months. Order can change depending if Pant can open. I will put 15 player squad Dhawan Rohit Kohli Rahul Pant Manish Dhoni Jadhav Pandya Bumrah Shami Bhuvi Thampi Kuldeep Jadeja In - Thampi, Manish Out - Yuvi, Ashwin Survives but performance needs close attention -Jadeja, Dhoni Players who need to be rested/rotated so other youngsters can get in - Dhawan, Bhuvi(blBoth are doing well but later should be rest down the line to gce chance to Thampi and co. There are many other youngsters who can be tried, but I will concentrate on this and even rest Dhawan later so players like Ishan Kishan l, Iyer can be further introduced That squad is still couple of wicket taking seamers short. Unless Bumrah really improves as a bowler, I cant see him taking wickets with the new ball or in the middle overs which are crucial to restrict oppositions on flat tracks. Thampi has done decently well in IPL and he still has a lot more to prove. If Shami gets back to form and if we have another really good attacking seamer with the new ball, we will have a good bowling attack with Bhuvi and Pandya to support them and Kuldeep (or Chahal or Jaddu depending on pitch) as the spinner option.
maniac Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Go the England Route Top 1-8 proper bats who can play attacking cricket 2 Wrist spinners in Kuldeep/Chahal 6 decent bowlers Dhawan Rahul Kohli Rohit Pant(Wk Bat) V.Shankar H.Pandya K.Pandya Kuldeep/Chahal Bhuvi/Umesh Bumrah/Shami
Cricketics Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, NareshK said: That squad is still couple of wicket taking seamers short. Unless Bumrah really improves as a bowler, I cant see him taking wickets with the new ball or in the middle overs which are crucial to restrict oppositions on flat tracks. Thampi has done decently well in IPL and he still has a lot more to prove. If Shami gets back to form and if we have another really good attacking seamer with the new ball, we will have a good bowling attack with Bhuvi and Pandya to support them and Kuldeep (or Chahal or Jaddu depending on pitch) as the spinner option. Shami is there for new ball and we will have to develop a young guy for the nee ball, like Thampi. This is the age you develop them and let them use the new ball. So Bhuvi/Shami can open and when either one of them is not playin, we can try Pandya and Thampi with te new ball. Also later I would like to Khejroliya and feel he can do well too with the new ball. So we do have bowlers who can bowl.
NareshK Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, maniac said: Go the England Route Top 1-8 proper bats who can play attacking cricket 2 Wrist spinners in Kuldeep/Chahal 6 decent bowlers Dhawan Rahul Kohli Rohit Pant(Wk Bat) V.Shankar H.Pandya K.Pandya Kuldeep/Chahal Bhuvi/Umesh Bumrah/Shami I feel we are still short of couple of wicket taking seamers. Spinners(outside India) and all rounders will restrict runs only for a while. If good batting sides have wickets in hand, they cant be stopped. You need to be taking wickets at regular intervals to stop run flow. Edited June 23, 2017 by NareshK
NareshK Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Shami is there for new ball and we will have to develop a young guy for the nee ball, like Thampi. This is the age you develop them and let them use the new ball. So Bhuvi/Shami can open and when either one of them is not playin, we can try Pandya and Thampi with te new ball. Also later I would like to Khejroliya and feel he can do well too with the new ball. So we do have bowlers who can bowl. Yeah, Thampi or someone else could be a good option but have to wait and see. Bumrah could improve and become a strike bowler. Umesh has been given enough chances but hasnt become a good ODI bowler and I dont think he ever will.
maniac Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 ^Siraj has impressed me more than Thampi. I hear a lot about Nathu Singh,Seen some domestic game videos but unless see him at a bigger stage atleast IPL,can't pass judgement.Many have flattered to deceive.
maniac Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Unfortunate part is Shami,Bhuvi,Bumrah and Umesh are all equally good and all can play in the main X1 unfortunately none can bat...Bhuvi has regressed a lot with the bat.So it weakens our batting and especially if your middle order is Dhoni,Yuvi and Jadhav than you do need some allrounders atleast
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) For me every slot shud have options 1. Aggresive opener- Dhawan, Rahul, kishen, Pant 2. The one who can anchor- Rohit, Rahul 3. Kohli 4. No.4- Rahul,Manish, iyer, pandey , hooda 5. Wk-batsman- Dhoni, pant, kishen, samson 6. Batsman + 6th bowler - Krunal, shankar 7- all rounder - Pandya Bowlers - Attacking Spinners- Kuldeep, Chahal holding spinner- Jadeja, ashwin, Axar ( will defintely have these guys in plan for exp, variety) Attacking seamer- Shami, Avesh, Nathu, Umesh The one who keeps things tight- Bhuvi, rajpoot Left arm seamer- Sran, kulwant Death over specialist - bumrah, thampy Few players ill have in mix- Sarfraz, Siraj, Sanghwan, Rana , M ashwin, Rahul chahar We have to try a lot of players rather being rigid on few and have backups to - injury, form anything can change Players who shudnt be even on radar- Rahane, mishra, karthik, dhawal, unadkat, yuvraj singh Edited June 23, 2017 by Ankit_sharma03 shibnarayan and Mosher 2
NareshK Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, maniac said: Unfortunate part is Shami,Bhuvi,Bumrah and Umesh are all equally good and all can play in the main X1 unfortunately none can bat...Bhuvi has regressed a lot with the bat.So it weakens our batting and especially if your middle order is Dhoni,Yuvi and Jadhav than you do need some allrounders atleast At least in ODIs, Umesh is a step below Shami, Bhuvi and Bumrah. Shami is the best of all if he gets back to form. Bhuvi doesnt have a good strike rate and doesnt take many wickets nowadays. So I dont think we can class him as a strike bowler like Shami. Bumrah is similar but he is a step below Bhuvi who has better control, temperament and intelligence. Edited June 23, 2017 by NareshK
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, NareshK said: Pant/Shreyas Iyer/KL Rahul/Sarfaraz - an aggressive opener who has the license to take advantage of powerplay and go after bowlers Sarfraz opener- Nope ........no way . Playing cheeky shots against old ball is diff to playing against new ball against quality bowling. 1 hour ago, NareshK said: Rohit - will do a much better job at 4 as he struggles sometimes against swing as an opener Why to try something that already has failed
NareshK Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Sarfraz opener- Nope ........no way . Playing cheeky shots against old ball is diff to playing against new ball against quality bowling. With some batsmen, you never know and there is no saying for certain, unless he plays as an opener. If he has the ability to play shots, he can put pressure right back on the bowlers from first over. If not Sarfaraz, someone like Pant could be the opener. Quote Why to try something that already has failed Rohit has improved as a batsman in ODIs. He still struggles against swing/seam because his technique is still not great which is evident from his test record. But if bats in the middle order, he wont have that problem. Plus he is generally a good attacking batsman against spin and can build partnerships in the middle overs and start hitting towards the end overs once he is set as he generally does.
rkt.india Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 Would like Nathu makes it to ODI team soon. He can be a strike bowler. Mosher 1
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