Vilander Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 20 hours ago, Muloghonto said: he better..or else the army will have to deal with Sanghi totalitarianism. thats assuming Sanghis have not already subverted the army like a shout-out to the Nazis. shrill liberal narrative. This appeals to young special snowflakes. What is needed is a strong India first right wing not some p%^^7 hindutva that can not rope in nationalist musilms as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Vilander said: shrill liberal narrative. This appeals to young special snowflakes. What is needed is a strong India first right wing not some p%^^7 hindutva that can not rope in nationalist musilms as well. We need a strong india that is ready to move into the modern age. Not trading in goondagardi of one 7th century from arabia for slightly better goondagardi based on 2000+ year old stories. We need true secularism, not one of 'pretend to be secular but give minorities whatever they want' or 'shrill hinduvta itching to get their turn to instill outdated beliefs cooked up by so-called Rishis with less education than a kid these days'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Vilander and mishra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 23 hours ago, Muloghonto said: We need a strong india that is ready to move into the modern age. Not trading in goondagardi of one 7th century from arabia for slightly better goondagardi based on 2000+ year old stories. We need true secularism, not one of 'pretend to be secular but give minorities whatever they want' or 'shrill hinduvta itching to get their turn to instill outdated beliefs cooked up by so-called Rishis with less education than a kid these days'. Also we need to * up and destroy radical islam and its proponents well stated mulog especially considering the balance in the last line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 22 hours ago, diga said: two separate incidents. Alleged Phedo rapist killed. http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/another-lynching-in-jharkhand-rape-murder-accused-beaten-to-death-in-dumka/story-ndRafPu8SS8MQVKJ0CcYdN.html Hhistory sheeter wanted in kidnab/murder case of a child, killed because he has beef 200kg in his car. Apparently a conspiracy from beef traders there. http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/jharkhand-man-accused-of-carrying-beef-beaten-to-death/story-3fuowiHpgloxAbERlouZ4M.html These lynchings are staged its all goonda elements wonder why this is happening. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 More to it.People are being in-sighted. http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2017/jun/29/mob-rule-in-bihar-jharkhand-three-men-lynched-in-two-separate-incidents-1622310.html " A spate of lynching incidents was reported in Jharkhand last month. Nine people were beaten to death in three separate incidents in a span of eight days by rampaging mobs in southern Jharkhand over child-lifting rumours, which had led to violent protests later. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 1 more update on this case, the another side of the story Quote Family says he killed teenager in self-defence Quote The family of the prime accused in the Junaid murder case on Sunday alleged that he had acted out of “self-defence”. Sitting on a charpoy outside his modest two-room house on the outskirts of Bhamrola village here, Naresh’s 55-year-old father Inder Singh said, “He had acted out of self-defence. Had he not stabbed Junaid and his brothers, they would have killed him.” Mr. Singh, who prematurely quit his job in the Army and is now a farmer, claimed that his son had no criminal record and was a staunch follower of Baba Ramdev. ‘Minor argument’ He said Naresh had got involved in the argument after Junaid and his friends misbehaved with an elderly man (Rameshwar Sharma, another accused in the case) and refused to share a seat with him. He emphasised that the incident was given communal colour for political reasons and it was a minor argument that turned violent. Naresh’s uncle Sahaj Ram, an ex-sarpanch, contended that the matter was sorted out after heated arguments in Okhla, but it turned violent when Junaid’s brother Shakir and his friends boarded the train from Ballabgarh railway station. “Junaid and his friends had moved to another coach at Tughlaqabad railway station and the matter was sorted out. But they called their brother and friends and again got into the same coach, and attacked Naresh and others with belts and chains. They were then about to attack him with a knife, when he managed to snatch it and stabbed them in self-defence,” said Mr. Ram. http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/family-says-he-killed-teenager-in-self-defence/article19247122.ece Edited July 10, 2017 by Tibarn HemuChandra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Self defense? why didnt they incapacitate the youths and reported them to railway authority on the next station. Taking someones life is a big sin. Why justify such a killing? It is wrong and should not be condoned in any fashion. If the brothers brought all bunch of folks for fight and were carrying knife then why didnt these guys take those away and hide them and let authority handle situation later. Lynching, killing or even bullying others is absolutely wrong. Such behavior must be condemned to the core. There cant be second opinion about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Families of 7 people who went for darshan in peace to Amarnath should ask this question. Hate the constant victim mentality and lying nature of peacefuls. Glad this Junaid rogue was stabbed to death, glad that Pehlu Khan, Mohammad Ikhlaq and other cattle thieves were lynched. There I said it. Enough of this one sided narrative by media and self loathing Hindus. I will condemn these lynchings when the hypocrites condemn radical Islamic terror and left wing extremism, which is to say NEVER !!! HemuChandra and asterix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriterion Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 On 6/24/2017 at 8:12 PM, sarchasm said: Such cute bogus outrage. The fight was over seats, something way too common in local railways. Muslims have pretty much perfected turning into a victim into a fine art. so the real victims are the guys for having to stab someone to get his seat? how does a unarmed 16 yo steal the seat of a guy with the knife? more likely the guy brought the knife onto the train for a reason, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mariyam Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 On 6/27/2017 at 7:01 PM, sarchasm said: Big difference between a fight that originally starts over a seat and then escalates AND a fight that was originally claimed to have its origin over eating beef. It sounds harsh but once a fight escalates then gloves are off and there is no expectation of rational behavior. People would look to dehumanize and degrade the other in every conceivable way. Fact of life. But it's not the same as and cannot be equated to a fight over the victim's muslim appearance or his eating habits. That *is* the dis-ingenuity many in the media and you in your post have resorted to. So no, there is no communal character regardless of how many times you repeat. You ask if the boy would have been murdered had he not been visibly muslim? Do let me know the religion of the victims in these cases. http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/mumbai/maharashtra-22-yr-old-woman-thrown-off-running-train-2859714/ http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/cover-story//articleshow/15994820.cms As harsh as your point sounds, I understand what you are saying. There is a difference between a fight over seats that escalates and a fight that begins over a religious issue. I stand corrected there. Depending on what news source you choose to believe there are conflicting reports over what has happened. There are news outlets which claim that random unrelated people who weren't a part of the initial squabble for seats threw in a few punches and kicks at Junaid and his brothers after the initial set of insults with religious undertones were hurled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriterion Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/15/2017 at 10:11 PM, sarchasm said: And how did you arrive at the conclusion that I suggested anything close to stabbers being the victim? Well when a kid is stabbed, and he's not the victim, any suggestion beyond that is equally preposterous. You might as well argue the Muslim family owes the killers a couple hundred rupees for the labor of having to use the blade. Once the can is opened, you can't argue one worm is any wormier than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Well when a kid is stabbed, and he's not the victim, any suggestion beyond that is equally preposterous. You might as well argue the Muslim family owes the killers a couple hundred rupees for the labor of having to use the blade. Once the can is opened, you can't argue one worm is any wormier than the other. Its a criminal incident... so many stabbing happens every minute all over the World, even in Bangladesh too... in this case the train is boarded by regular daily passengers. Many of the passengers know each other when travel daily... also in these daily routine routes it's very easy to call for support your relatives or friends... easy to get a mob board the train in the next station... The victim tried to bully to get a seat... he then called for more support when things started heating up... there are many groups / gangs travel daily on these trains... one needs to be careful and not to pick unnecessary fights... Once a fight starts you don't know who all are participating. Any criminal or frustrated person can take law in his own hands... It was an unfortunate incident... however given the tensions prevailing in the country, inaction by state govts during riots (West Bengal), terrorists activities in J&K, the minorities should be careful in picking fights... I would advice the same to the Hindu minorities in Bangladesh (and they know better)... if they start picking fights in Bangladesh, imagine what will happen... "kailaiyya raikhya debe"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) ^ Now when you bring that up i can understand what might have resulted into this. Daily passengers are simple bullies. Most them board the train reserved coaches, Without ticket and then take your seat (atleast force you to share your reserved Seat) and when you say no, you risk getting beaten by the group of them. Edited July 27, 2017 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriterion Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) On 7/22/2017 at 4:54 AM, asterix said: Its a criminal incident... so many stabbing happens every minute all over the World, even in Bangladesh too... in this case the train is boarded by regular daily passengers. Many of the passengers know each other when travel daily... also in these daily routine routes it's very easy to call for support your relatives or friends... easy to get a mob board the train in the next station... The victim tried to bully to get a seat... he then called for more support when things started heating up... there are many groups / gangs travel daily on these trains... one needs to be careful and not to pick unnecessary fights... Once a fight starts you don't know who all are participating. Any criminal or frustrated person can take law in his own hands... It was an unfortunate incident... however given the tensions prevailing in the country, inaction by state govts during riots (West Bengal), terrorists activities in J&K, the minorities should be careful in picking fights... I would advice the same to the Hindu minorities in Bangladesh (and they know better)... if they start picking fights in Bangladesh, imagine what will happen... "kailaiyya raikhya debe"... 12 Maybe its a merely a criminal incident but how does one know for sure? but there seems to be quite a lot of Hindu criminals targeting Muslim victims in India, especially when Modi-ji campaigned on there being "too many" criminal Bangladeshi illegal immigrants in India. If the media is to be believed, India seems to have a disporportionately large problem with "criminality" ranging from cow killer vigilantism, to gang rapists, and now to train-seat brawlers. Is there a cultural component to why criminality is so high in India lately? Edited August 29, 2017 by Kriterion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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