Is this the best bowling attack we've ever had?

[putrevus]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Like India never had "aiding" pitches. Have you seen 90s pitches when Kumble played. That was the worst i have ever seen in my memory. Many spinners came in and left. Nobody has this many man of the series. Many of the series he won for India did not even have helpful conditions like the one India won against Australia. How many bowlers have same stats in "Helpful conditions"

Kumble is not a great spin bowler by any stretch. He was lethal on helpful Indian pitches but was found out when pitches did not help him. Ashwin is following Kumble's footsteps so far and Jadeja has improved but how much he has improved is yet to be seen. All time great bowlers did well in most  conditions. Warne did well every where except against India in India. Murali is notches below Warne.

All ATG bowlers did well in all formats , both Jadeja and Ashwin have stunk in shorter formats especially on pitches which don't aide their bowling.If they had improved their bowling on pitches which don't aide their bowling we would have seen different result in CT.

 

Edited August 5, 2017 by putrevus

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Kumble is not a great spin bowler by any stretch. He was lethal on helpful Indian pitches but was found out when pitches did not help him. Ashwin is following Kumble's footsteps so far and Jadeja has improved but how much he has improved is yet to be seen. All time great bowlers did well in most  conditions. Warne did well every where except against India in India. Murali is notches below Warne.

All ATG bowlers did well in all formats , both Jadeja and Ashwin have stunk in shorter formats especially on pitches which don't aide their bowling.If they had improved their bowling on pitches which don't aide their bowling we would have seen different result in CT.

 

When did you start watching cricket? July 2017?

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Kumble is not a great spin bowler by any stretch. He was lethal on helpful Indian pitches but was found out when pitches did not help him. Ashwin is following Kumble's footsteps so far and Jadeja has improved but how much he has improved is yet to be seen. All time great bowlers did well in most  conditions. Warne did well every where except against India in India. Murali is notches below Warne.

All ATG bowlers did well in all formats , both Jadeja and Ashwin have stunk in shorter formats especially on pitches which don't aide their bowling.If they had improved their bowling on pitches which don't aide their bowling we would have seen different result in CT.

 

Warnie was a wrist spinner exceptional one. But he hardly tasted any success on the supposedly spinner friendly pitches with spin friendly balls. Ashwin is no Warne. His style of bowling is different. It is going to take a while for him to get adjusted to balls with less pronounced seam. He is slightly slower with slightly less revs. Apart from these two who else is comparable in modern era where they roll out flat pitches everywhere.

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 hours ago, putrevus said:

Kumble is not a great spin bowler by any stretch. He was lethal on helpful Indian pitches but was found out when pitches did not help him. Ashwin is following Kumble's footsteps so far and Jadeja has improved but how much he has improved is yet to be seen. All time great bowlers did well in most  conditions. Warne did well every where except against India in India. Murali is notches below Warne.

All ATG bowlers did well in all formats , both Jadeja and Ashwin have stunk in shorter formats especially on pitches which don't aide their bowling.If they had improved their bowling on pitches which don't aide their bowling we would have seen different result in CT.

 

Go watch 2003-04 tour down under series highlights again , from that series kumble was india's one of biggest bowling strength overseas 

[bleaf27]

A month ago the two "world" class spinners got humbled and humiliated in CT .....and there is a thread for best bowling ?

[Khota]

Against Sri Lanka and people are drawing conclusions.

[putrevus]

14 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Warnie was a wrist spinner exceptional one. But he hardly tasted any success on the supposedly spinner friendly pitches with spin friendly balls. Ashwin is no Warne. His style of bowling is different. It is going to take a while for him to get adjusted to balls with less pronounced seam. He is slightly slower with slightly less revs. Apart from these two who else is comparable in modern era where they roll out flat pitches everywhere.

His stats suggest he is better than Warne after 51 tests which is not actually true. Warne is wrist spinner so was Kumble but he hardly was effective as Warne in England or Australia. If they are rolling out flat pitches where Ashwin is bowling he would not have picked up so many wickets,

[putrevus]

8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Go watch 2003-04 tour down under series highlights again , from that series kumble was india's one of biggest bowling strength overseas 

When did Kumble make his debut .From that series on how many tests India won overseas due to Kumble after that and how many did he fail to get India over the line. 

[The Dark Horse]

Day of reckoning.

[King Tendulkar]

On paper serous attack we have today 

 

big move leaving ishant out . Bumrah must have impressed in nets as well

[Vijy]

On 7/27/2017 at 7:03 AM, The Dark Horse said:

2 genuine fast bowlers, 2 quality spinners who can also contribute with the bat, a young fast bowling all rounder (still early days) and a young chinaman bowler who's picked wickets whenever given the opportunity. Not to mention a good back-up of fast bowlers.

 

IMO this could be an all-weather bowling attack.

2 quality spinners outside SC - remains to be seen.

pandya is young and bowls pace, but these are too early days as you said.

kuldeep - too little sample size.

2 genuine fast bowlers - if that's bumrah and shami, they were comfortably the worst. bhuvi outbowled them both.

[Gollum]

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Edited January 6, 2018 by Gollum
oops wrong thread

[Captain]

A fully fit Shami, Bhuvi, Bumrah and Ashwin would definitely be our strongest bowling attack we've had so far.

 

Sadly, Shami isn't anywhere near being fully fit.

 

On 1/5/2018 at 1:46 PM, King Tendulkar said:

big move leaving ishant out . Bumrah must have impressed in nets as well

Kohli mentioned at the toss that Bumrah was the most impressive pacer in the nets.

[Rightarmfast]

Its the first match. let them get accustomed first. although I reckon, to SA, Srinath and Prasad as the opening bowlers have been the best for us. But I think the performance will get better by 2nd or 3rd test.

[The Dark Horse]

It is indeed. Had we held onto the catches we could have won the series.

[Vijy]

On 1/27/2018 at 10:59 AM, The Dark Horse said:

It is indeed. Had we held onto the catches we could have won the series.

that and some baffling selections in the first 2 tests.

[AmreekanDesi]

In test cricket yes

 

for ODIs 2011 attack was best 

[Rightarmfast]

57 minutes ago, AmreekanDesi said:

In test cricket yes

 

for ODIs 2011 attack was best 

2003 WC attack.

[Trichromatic]

41 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

2003 WC attack.

Just for 1 month

[Rightarmfast]

30 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Just for 1 month

1 series. I think that counts.