Is this selection committee best India had?

[rkt.india]

10 hours ago, gakgupta said:

Some of you are unhappy....but who would replace rahane....

Iyer is half-cooked....in this mind he thinks that he is sehwag but he is not half of that.......I haven't seen him perform against good opposition on non-flat and non-Indian pitches...

Pant needs some more time....you can clearly see that he is inconsistent....

 

BTW...when was the last time we saw 2 wrist spinners playing for Indian ODI side? When was the last time, we saw a genuine all-rounder playing for India?

 

I think this selection committee, ousted MSD from test side....

 

 

Wasn't SA A good opposition? You never get readymade players from domestic cricket.

Edited October 4, 2017 by rkt.india

[Cricketics]

6 hours ago, sandeep said:

So Ticsy.  I guess you have changed your mind on Pandya's batting abilties now?

Solid hitter to spin who has batted well against seamers. Like I said earlier, if he takes his chances, he should be continued. And he shall continue in the line up. I as an opposition captain would have tested more against seamers instead of giving him Zampa and Head all the time, but he has done well in whatever he faced to pace in this series. Smith sucked as captain this whole series honestly in that regard, or perhaps is showing signs of not a good captain for ODI's when the oppositions are ahead in the series and are a better batting unit. 

 

Pandya has been brilliant, and hopefully he continues to improve his game against seamers, as his attacking game to spinners is what is his strength. 

 

 

[Cricketics]

1 hour ago, Texan said:

How many of the players in the team were really picked by these selectors? MSK Prasad became chief selector in Sept 2016. Pandya made his international debut in Jan 2016. I believe Sandeep Patil was the chief selector then. 

 

This selection commitee continues to pick Umesh Yadav in ODIs despite him having a horrendous record in ODIs and even some of his diehard fans don't support picking this guy in ODIs. They picked a veteran's team for T20 matches. No big strikers. They have no guts to drop Dhoni from T20s. They gave a rough deal to Pant. 

 

This is by far the worst selection commitee in recent memory. The successes are thanks to some picks from previous commitees. 

Yes, i am not a fan of Umesh Yadav in ODI'S and neither am a fan of this selection committee yet. Still would give them time. 

 

My posts have been mainly about captaincy and how India is doing well over all. 

 

We can do better in picking bowers and giving chances to other players who can be tried now like Pant. 

[sandeep]

36 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Solid hitter to spin who has batted well against seamers. Like I said earlier, if he takes his chances, he should be continued. And he shall continue in the line up. I as an opposition captain would have tested more against seamers instead of giving him Zampa and Head all the time, but he has done well in whatever he faced to pace in this series. Smith sucked as captain this whole series honestly in that regard, or perhaps is showing signs of not a good captain for ODI's when the oppositions are ahead in the series and are a better batting unit. 

 

Pandya has been brilliant, and hopefully he continues to improve his game against seamers, as his attacking game to spinners is what is his strength. 

 

 

He has played a few textbook cover drives and straight drives off of pacers already.   In the NZ series last year, as well as against Australia in the last few weeks.   Sure, he's better against spin than pace, but he's no mug against pace either.  He might be the best in the Indian lineup at the "ramp" shot.   Like I had pointed out in our earlier discussions that he is a proper batting prospect - not just a slogger.   Of course, time will tell how good he will eventually end up being.  I'm sure once he plays more games, people are going to start figuring him out and identify a few weaknesses.  His backlift is so big, it just looks like he's asking to be yorked.   Slight technical issues with his forward press can easily creep in with that backlift.   But, bottomline, he's a decent bat, not just a slogger who murders spin.   

[Cricketics]

6 minutes ago, sandeep said:

He has played a few textbook cover drives and straight drives off of pacers already.   In the NZ series last year, as well as against Australia in the last few weeks.   Sure, he's better against spin than pace, but he's no mug against pace either.  He might be the best in the Indian lineup at the "ramp" shot.   Like I had pointed out in our earlier discussions that he is a proper batting prospect - not just a slogger.   Of course, time will tell how good he will eventually end up being.  I'm sure once he plays more games, people are going to start figuring him out and identify a few weaknesses.  His backlift is so big, it just looks like he's asking to be yorked.   Slight technical issues with his forward press can easily creep in with that backlift.   But, bottomline, he's a decent bat, not just a slogger who murders spin.   

Yeah, some first class 4 day games can easily make him a solid against seamers. He’s playing lot of limited over cricket for India right now, but it will be great to see him in first class whenever he can get a chance. He should always play 4 day games if they aren’t clashing with Indian schedule. Will only make him a better player. The series down in South Africa next year will be also of great help to him.

 

 

[SK_IH]

quite an ironical question this after selection of t20 squad 

[The Realist]

The benchmark must be very low if this selection committee is regarded as the best.

The test/odi teams are a couple of injuries away from being exposed for their dependency on a few players. Batting depth in particular is nonexistent. 

The T20 team is a joke, a veterans XI that recycles has-beens and ignores young players.

 

What vision has this committee shown? What is their strategy? All their selections are safe easy picks that a computer could do instead. There is no out of the box thinking or identifying young talent and backing them.

[gakgupta]

quite an ironical question this after selection of t20 squad 

I m not saying that this is the best in the world.....
All I am saying is....I m following Indian cricket from last 20 years and this is the best....
Dilip vensarkar was the other guy who had good eye for talent and didn't had regional bias...

This selection committee is creating a huge pool of pace bowlers....just after 2 seasons Thampi and Hyderabadi bowler are already in reckoning.....

First time in my life, I saw wrist spinners are given importance on all levels.....

All-rounders with real potential are groomed....Vijay Shankar and Hardik .....Earlier it was all about Ranji scores...remember Sanjay Bangar, ritender Singh Sodhi, Joginder Sharma etc....

Heard a lot about Shubham Gill and he is already into A side .....that too without playing a single Ranji match...

I am not saying that they are doing everything right....but looks like they have correct intentions and approach...

When was the last time, a player played for India just after only one Ranji season....I m talking about Pant??

Usually players will never become good, if they doesn't spend enough time in Ranji....classic example is Yuvi and Raina
... I am big fan of pant but we want a test player out of him....not a T20 or one day specialist...



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[gakgupta]

I m not saying that this is the best in the world.....
All I am saying is....I m following Indian cricket from last 20 years and this is the best....
Dilip vensarkar was the other guy who had good eye for talent and didn't had regional bias...

This selection committee is creating a huge pool of pace bowlers....just after 2 seasons Thampi and Hyderabadi bowler are already in reckoning.....

First time in my life, I saw wrist spinners are given importance on all levels.....

All-rounders with real potential are groomed....Vijay Shankar and Hardik .....Earlier it was all about Ranji scores...remember Sanjay Bangar, ritender Singh Sodhi, Joginder Sharma etc....

Heard a lot about Shubham Gill and he is already into A side .....that too without playing a single Ranji match...

I am not saying that they are doing everything right....but looks like they have correct intentions and approach...

When was the last time, a player played for India just after only one Ranji season....I m talking about Pant??

Usually players will never become good, if they doesn't spend enough time in Ranji....classic example is Yuvi and Raina
... I am big fan of pant but we want a test player out of him....not a T20 or one day specialist...



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BTW....just want to remind you....
Washington sunder was selected for T20 but he failed the fitness tet

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[gakgupta]

55 minutes ago, The Realist said:

The benchmark must be very low if this selection committee is regarded as the best.

The test/odi teams are a couple of injuries away from being exposed for their dependency on a few players. Batting depth in particular is nonexistent. 

The T20 team is a joke, a veterans XI that recycles has-beens and ignores young players.

 

What vision has this committee shown? What is their strategy? All their selections are safe easy picks that a computer could do instead. There is no out of the box thinking or identifying young talent and backing them.

Here is the reason why i like this selection committee...

 

I always had a wish that India should win a test series in Australia against Australia....i thought i will be dead before that happens (BTW...i am 33 years)....The main reason is, selection committee have a short time vision....

 

As per my observations, if a team has to win a series in australia, they should have a good wrist spinner, good pool of pace bowlers and a decent pace bowling allrounder.......if you look at the A sides, all these aspects are being looked into...

 

So thumps up from my side...

 

Yeah...if A sides are good and India side are bad, then who will you blame??...little bit of common sense tell that its either virat or shastri who are making these calls..Remember kumble was kicked out as a coach as he played kuldeep yadav in the last test match against Australia....so MSK prasad will be a piece of cake

 

 

Edited October 4, 2017 by gakgupta

[Vijy]

On 10/3/2017 at 11:27 PM, sandeep said:

He has played a few textbook cover drives and straight drives off of pacers already.   In the NZ series last year, as well as against Australia in the last few weeks.   Sure, he's better against spin than pace, but he's no mug against pace either.  He might be the best in the Indian lineup at the "ramp" shot.   Like I had pointed out in our earlier discussions that he is a proper batting prospect - not just a slogger.   Of course, time will tell how good he will eventually end up being.  I'm sure once he plays more games, people are going to start figuring him out and identify a few weaknesses.  His backlift is so big, it just looks like he's asking to be yorked.   Slight technical issues with his forward press can easily creep in with that backlift.   But, bottomline, he's a decent bat, not just a slogger who murders spin.   

It has been a while (since Sehwag) that we saw such players. Reminds me of even 2-3 years ago where our batsmen struggled to play Mo Ali.

[jf1gp_1]

On 10/3/2017 at 8:12 PM, mancalledsting said:

apart form t20s, they've been very good so far

 

in t20s their insistence on not promoting the youth in favour of rehashing golden oldies is indefensible. 

In ODI their approach has been by and large been spot on (msd aside)

 

Tests- they've been brilliant- results clearly support this 

A tours- looks like they're picking the right sort of players e.g. gave Pandya a chance in Aus and helped his development

i thought selectors didnt want any youngster to miss out on ranji games just to warm bench during a meaningless t20 game