Global.Baba Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, rkt.india said: batsmen dictated terms even during SRT. Depends which period you are talking about Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Suhaan said: End of story,these things doesn't matter Story ended much before when rohit was compared with Sachin. Link to comment
velu Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 soon some sachin fan here will start hyping henry olanga and @Muloghonto bhai will say that zimbabwe bowling of 1990s was close to world class Switchblade, rkt.india and fedex 3 Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, velu said: soon some sachin fan here will start hyping henry olanga and @Muloghonto bhai will say that zimbabwe bowling of 1990s was close to world class 90s Zimbabwe were much better than today's Lanka or westindies. rkt.india, Laaloo, velu and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
velu Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 how many people remember this rivalry ? even i use to hate this olanga guy Suhaan 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 19 minutes ago, velu said: soon some sachin fan here will start hyping henry olanga and @Muloghonto bhai will say that zimbabwe bowling of 1990s was close to world class Thank God you didn't use "chamcha" velu 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 19 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: Story ended much before when rohit was compared with Sachin. yeah, no idea why people comparing SRT and Kohli. Kohli is just on a different level. The numbers he has amassed are beyond imagination at this point. SRT's closes rival right now is Rohit, not Kohli. Both Rohit and SRT have had similar career graphs in ODIs. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: 90s Zimbabwe were much better than today's Lanka or westindies. but Kohli has played SL at their strongest as well, not just today's SL. In SRT's time, we had poor Kenya and BD and very average NZ side. While today's BD is better than Zim of 90s and even England ODI team of mid to late 90s. Zim ever had a single batsmen as good as current WI batsmen. Nonbeliever 1 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Starc, Cummins, Rabada, Morkel, Johnson, Steyn, Ajmal, Hazlewood, Boult, Malinga, Bumrah could have made any team in the 90s. and Koli's career is 10 years old. He is not a newbie, playing form 2008. He played Murli at his best, Mendis at his best successfully. He played Brett Lee at his best as well. He played Shoaib too. He has played Kallis, Steyn, Morkel, Johnson all at their best years. None of the names you mentioned are outstanding odi bowlers. I have seen them get threshed in limited overs cricket on pattas.Rabada,Johnson,Boult all can be either wayward or expensive in LOIs. Murali retired in 2011. Kohli debuted in 2008? So did Lee and Akhar who hardly played during this period due to all the PCB crap. Malinga and Morkel I will give you that.However never seen him tear apart Morkel.Malinga yes but Malinga was becoming a T20 specialist by then. you are telling me Murali and the others peaked during this period? 2ws,2cs,Donald-Pollock, Murali-Warne were all different beasts in Sachin era. Even guys like Vaas,Streak were really a handful Suhaan, Laaloo and Nonbeliever 1 2 Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, rkt.india said: yeah, no idea why people comparing SRT and Kohli. Kohli is just on a different level. The numbers he has amassed are beyond imagination at this point. SRT's closes rival right now is Rohit, not Kohli. Both Rohit and SRT have had similar career graphs in ODIs. Going by your logic most of today's batsman are head and shoulders above past superstars. And Soon fakhar zaman will become the greatest opener world has seen. Babar is already Better than Lara. Edited October 31, 2018 by Nonbeliever Global.Baba, Laaloo and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
velu Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Thank God you didn't use "chamcha" sorry .. i meant sachin fans not a single pesron blame swype keyboard Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: Going by your logic most of today's batsman are head and shoulders above past superstars. And Soon fakhar zaman will become the greatest opener world has seen. Babar is already Better than Lara. It’s weird. Rohit Sharma has 3 200s and came close to it plenty of other times but we are the first ones to say Viv Richards was better which obviously is a fact. However the ones arguing pretty much in favor of Kohli right now will be the first to point that out. No one rates Dhawan over say someone like Jayasuriya even though Dhawan has better stats and 100 rate. However with Kohli they pull every stat to prove that he is better than Sachin pretty sure it is not love for Kohli Edited October 31, 2018 by Global.Baba Laaloo, Nonbeliever and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: None of the names you mentioned are outstanding odi bowlers. I have seen them get threshed in limited overs cricket on pattas.Rabada,Johnson,Boult all can be either wayward or expensive in LOIs. Murali retired in 2011. Kohli debuted in 2008? So did Lee and Akhar who hardly played during this period due to all the PCB crap. Malinga and Morkel I will give you that.However never seen him tear apart Morkel.Malinga yes but Malinga was becoming a T20 specialist by then. you are telling me Murali and the others peaked during this period? 2ws,2cs,Donald-Pollock, Murali-Warne were all different beasts in Sachin era. Even guys like Vaas,Streak were really a handful same way your donald, pollocl Ws, Cs, Murli would get thrashed in modern cricket. You are seeing current bowlers from 90s POV but not doing the same for 90s bowlers. See 90s bowlers from modern POV as well. Switchblade and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, rkt.india said: but Kohli has played SL at their strongest as well, not just today's SL. In SRT's time, we had poor Kenya and BD and very average NZ side. While today's BD is better than Zim of 90s and even England ODI team of mid to late 90s. Zim ever had a single batsmen as good as current WI batsmen. Kohli played SL in 1996? Laaloo, Switchblade and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Kohli played SL in 1996? I think in LaLaland Global.Baba and Jimmy Cliff 1 1 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: same way your donald, pollocl Ws, Cs, Murli would get thrashed in modern cricket. You are seeing current bowlers from 90s POV but not doing the same for 90s bowlers. See 90s bowlers from modern POV as well. That is an assumption you are making. The only dominants bat in that era were Sachin,Lara,Mark Waugh,Anwar and Desilva I am not counting Ponting,Saurav,Inzamam,Sanga etc because they peaked in the dawn of 2000s when batting was becoming easier. I am not counting Jayasuriya because he is an anamoly and you can’t measure his impact in stats. So that leaves is with the names I mentioned Anwar made merry mostly against us. Desilvas prime lasted a couple of years. Mark Waugh too had a small peak. That leaves us with Lara and Sachin and obviously there’re are the 2 batsman synonymous with ATG batsmen even today. Sachin over Lara obviously even though Lara was my personal favorite. Nonbeliever and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: It’s weird. Rohit Sharma has 3 200s and came close to it plenty of other times but we are the first ones to say Viv Richards was better which obviously is a fact. However the ones arguing pretty much in favor of Kohli right now will be the first to point that out. No one rates Dhawan over say someone like Jayasuriya even though Dhawan has better stats and 100 rate. However with Kohli they pull every stat to prove that he is better than Sachin pretty sure it is not love for Kohli Jaysuriya pioneered the modern one day cricket. still i dont rate jaysuriya that high. He just thrashed Indian bowlers. Dhawan is certainly better than Jaysuriya. Jaysuriya could be more destructive but was inconsistent like Sehwag. i dont rate Sehwwa as ODI batsman too. Consistency is imperative for me. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
velu Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Kohli played SL in 1996? lanka literally out batted everyone at that time .. Link to comment
goose Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 When Tendulkar was in his pomp there was very little chat about his numbers. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Kohli played SL in 1996? SL in 1996 was not at their strongest. They were underdogs in 1996 that is why they did not do much in 90s after WC. SL were at their strongest in 2000s and 2010s before their ATgs in Sanga, Jaya, Murli, Dilshan retired. it is like saying India were at their strongest in 1983. Link to comment
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