rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: Sandeep is not 125 kph bowler. Please check the bowlers speeds. He is in FC. Don't go by IPL speeds. Edited November 19, 2017 by rkt.india Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, rkt.india said: He is in FC. Don't go bye IPL speeds. I have seen him bowl 130 as well. It is totally wrong information that he has not bowled more than 125 kph. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, express bowling said: We need to try Bumrah and Aniket C for tests With Aniket, I doubt if he can maintain intensity. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Straight Drive said: I have seen him bowl 130 as well. It is totally wrong information that he has not bowled more than 125 kph. He bowls 120-130, averaging 125-126. Link to comment
bhakum20 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Yes, there is a lot of upcoming talent but don't think they are ready likes of Siraj, Thampi, Saini, Rajpoot, Chaudhary. Rajpoot can be fine too in those conditions too. These five are the closest to be ready. Would be great to have few of them ready by next year Ind-Aus series, or the Ind-NZ series after that. I hope management are looking into that. Link to comment
Lannister Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, express bowling said: Not all venues support swing bowling on all 5 days in England Hit-the-deck seam bowlers are needed too But still the ability to swing is the main skillset needed over there. Even Steyn has got orninary numbers in England, for he is not a swing bowler. Someone like Philander will be deadly in those conditions. Even a trundler like Sohail khan has match winning performances. Link to comment
beetle Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 If bhuvi and bumrah are going to play all 3 formats , then they need to rested and we need more bowlers on the benches to rotate them between matches. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Lannister said: But still the ability to swing is the main skillset needed over there. Even Steyn has got orninary numbers in England, for he is not a swing bowler. Someone like Philander will be deadly in those conditions. Even a trundler like Sohail khan has match winning performances. Steyn is swing bowler. His numbers are poor because he played during a very dry season. Sohail Khan isn't a trundler, bowls 135-140 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, beetle said: If bhuvi and bumrah are going to play all 3 formats , then they need to rested and we need more bowlers on the benches to rotate them between matches. But this team management is to conservative in giving new guys chances. Link to comment
beetle Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We should have another allrounder for tests other than Pandya. Too much load on Pandya . More over we should have more than one option. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lannister said: . Even Steyn has got orninary numbers in England, for he is not a swing bowler. Someone like Philander will be deadly in those conditions. Steyn is primarily a swing bowler and Philander is a seam bowler. The English commentary team were discussing in great detail how bad Philander became when he tried to swing the ball. Edited November 19, 2017 by express bowling Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, beetle said: We should have another allrounder for tests other than Pandya. Too much load on Pandya . More over we should have more than one option. Yes Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, beetle said: We should have another allrounder for tests other than Pandya. Too much load on Pandya . More over we should have more than one option. Pandya is not even the confirmed option full time in tests. In ODI’s its working but in south Africa in tests, it remains to be seen. He will be tried in first test and if it fails, he might get dropped because he is surely not better bowler than any of our current bowlers, and neither the better batsman than any of them. He is just there to bring balance so we can have that extra batting or bowling option, but if he is not able to handle either of them, then he will be quickly dropped. Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: Bumrah is a rookie too and Navdeep has played in SA with India A and did well. You should see how the bowler has come up and does he show intelligence in working himself to be a better bowler with adding new varieties ? People with an eye for these , would never consider Bumrah a rookie now ! . That too after bowling to top class international batsmen for nearly 1.5 years. Recent 6 months , it was so apparent who has improved by leaps & bounds among indian quicks ! I just do not buy this " ROOKIE" tag to Bumrah at all . PERIOD !! express bowling, AuxiliA, Laaloo and 4 others 7 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said: You should see how the bowler has come up and does he show intelligence in working himself to be a better bowler with adding new varieties ? People with an eye for these , would never consider Bumrah a rookie now ! . That too after bowling to top class international batsmen for nearly 1.5 years. Recent 6 months , it was so apparent who has improved by leaps & bounds among indian quicks ! I just do not buy this " ROOKIE" tag to Bumrah at all . PERIOD !! Completely agree with this rookie, youngster thing gets on my nerves as well,we have seen what intl veterans like Ishant,Umesh have done over the years Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 umesh is a dustbin bowler in overseas ......just play him in sub-continent tests and then dump him into vidharbha ......bumrah and aniket choudhary,shardul thakur are good prospects as they hit the pitch hard with control Link to comment
Lannister Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 39 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Steyn is swing bowler. His numbers are poor because he played during a very dry season. Sohail Khan isn't a trundler, bowls 135-140 But he's not your typical conventional swing bowler like Anderson. 130-135 was Sohail Khan's average speed. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 32 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said: umesh is a dustbin bowler in overseas ......just play him in sub-continent tests and then dump him into vidharbha ......bumrah and aniket choudhary,shardul thakur are good prospects as they hit the pitch hard with control Shardul Thakur isn't fit enough to sustain intensity nor accurate Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said: hit the pitch hard with control Yes ...... We need a pool of pacers who can do this ball after ball. Only way to succeed outside Asia. Shami , Bumrah, , Aniket C, Ishant Edited November 19, 2017 by express bowling LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 A captain like Imran Khan would have picked someone like an Ishan Porel for SA test squad as the dark horse. Genuine physically threatening pace, can hit the deck hard and gets steep bounce and seam movement both ways. Not a spray-gun. Decent accuracy. Seems like he can sustain pace and intensity, which is much needed in tests. Just picked up 5 wickets to win it for Bengal. Has taken 10 wickets in his first 2 FC matches. Link to comment
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