velu Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Currently smith has got 938 points ( on 11th december Highest 941 ). Second highest points are 945 and two players scored 942. Probably once his points are updated , he might move to the second best ever test batsmen behind only to Don Bradman. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, velu said: Currently smith has got 938 points ( on 11th december Highest 941 ). Second highest points are 945 and two players scored 942. Probably once his points are updated , he might move to the second best ever test batsmen behind only to Don Bradman. statistically, he is already there. no one who's played >50 tests ever attained a peak avg of 62. amonst the modern players, SRT and Dravid had about 59, Punter and Gilly had around 60, Sanga had around 58-59, etc. velu 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 How is one time peak or average indicative of best batsmen? if he plays for next 5 years and gets duck every single innings will he be second best batsman because he attained some one time ranking points or a peak average once? sandeep 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, New guy said: How is one time peak or average indicative of best batsmen? if he plays for next 5 years and gets duck every single innings will he be second best batsman because he attained some one time ranking points or a peak average once? Yes, he will remain the batsman with 2nd best rating even if he gets ducks every single inning. Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Peak is normally what any sportsperson is measured, at peak what they were capable off is remembered by most. What Smith has achieved after so many tests and averaging so high and scoring so many hundreds and fifties .He is almost reaching 50 plus in half of times he comes to crease and that is mind boggling. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, putrevus said: Peak is normally what any sportsperson is measured, at peak what they were capable off is remembered by most. What Smith has achieved after so many tests and averaging so high and scoring so many hundreds and fifties .He is almost reaching 50 plus in half of times he comes to crease and that is mind boggling. yes, 'tis the peak that matters. as I wrote above, a couple of indians achieved an avg of close to 60 (59 or so) at some point in their career, before it slid away. smith is of course a freak. we are lucky to see him bat. Edited December 18, 2017 by Vijy Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 He will almost certainly overtake Bradman's peak rating tomorrow. When Kohli got 235 vs England at Mumbai in 2016 (a match that followed a similar pattern to the one at WACA) his rating increased by 50+. Smith is at 938 so is on course to be at least 975+ once the rankings are updated. Link to comment
maniac Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 One more test before the end of this year against mighty pace of Anderson,Broad,Woakes,Ali and Overton so yeah watch more records tumble Link to comment
velu Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cliff said: He will almost certainly overtake Bradman's peak rating tomorrow. When Kohli got 235 vs England at Mumbai in 2016 (a match that followed a similar pattern to the one at WACA) his rating increased by 50+. Smith is at 938 so is on course to be at least 975+ once the rankings are updated. not sure whether he can cross 961 .. Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 How much did sachin have What about Dravid Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 ^^ They never reached 900, these rating tell one important the peak and performances against the best bowlers/batsmen. Sachin highest is 898 and Dravid is 892.Kohli has a chance to cross 900 if he does well in SA. Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: How much did sachin have What about Dravid Sunny 916 SRT 898 Kohli 895 Dravid 892 Pujara 888 I think Kohli would have crossed 900 if India had won the Delhi Test. Both Kohli and Pujara are one great (in statistical terms) match-winning knock away from the 900 rating. Sunny and Ashwin are the only Indians to have crossed the 900 mark. Sir Jadeja was almost there with 899. Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, velu said: not sure whether he can cross 961 .. He will IMO. If Kohli can get a nice 50+ points boost by scoring 235 against England at home, so can Smith. The fact that the English attack features Anderson who's got 894 pts and ranked no. 1 makes it even more likely. Edited December 18, 2017 by Jimmy Cliff Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: He will IMO. If Kohli can get a nice 50+ points boost by scoring 235 against England at home, so can Smith. The fact that the English attack features Anderson who's got 894 pts and ranked no. 1 makes it even more likely. I think so as well. Andie is well rated and although Barbie has been poor, I imagine his rating is not too bad. Link to comment
Shunya Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: He will IMO. If Kohli can get a nice 50+ points boost by scoring 235 against England at home, so can Smith. The fact that the English attack features Anderson who's got 894 pts and ranked no. 1 makes it even more likely. Increase of 50+ is a huge number. Isnt higher the rating means more difficulty to get rating points? I feel he will still become 2nd which itself is a kickass rating. Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, Shunya said: Increase of 50+ is a huge number. Isnt higher the rating means more difficulty to get rating points? I feel he will still become 2nd which itself is a kickass rating. Possibly. But even then he only needs a 24 point jump. Utna toh mil hi jaayega. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Sunny 916 SRT 898 Kohli 895 Dravid 892 Pujara 888 I think Kohli would have crossed 900 if India had won the Delhi Test. Both Kohli and Pujara are one great (in statistical terms) match-winning knock away from the 900 rating. Sunny and Ashwin are the only Indians to have crossed the 900 mark. Sir Jadeja was almost there with 899. good old Sir Jaddu - at which test did his ranking reach 899? Link to comment
Shunya Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Vijy said: good old Sir Jaddu - at which test did his ranking reach 899? Jaddu's Career best ranking - 899 v Australia, 20/03/2017 Alltime Bowling rankings --> http://www.relianceiccrankings.com/alltime/test/bowling/ Edited December 18, 2017 by Shunya Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 27 minutes ago, Shunya said: Jaddu's Career best ranking - 899 v Australia, 20/03/2017 Alltime Bowling rankings --> http://www.relianceiccrankings.com/alltime/test/bowling/ surprised to see Lock rank that high, since most considered Laker to be much better. Probably had a purple patch at some stage. Lohmann and Barnes clearly played in heavily bowler-friendly conditions. Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 51 minutes ago, Vijy said: surprised to see Lock rank that high, since most considered Laker to be much better. Probably had a purple patch at some stage. Lohmann and Barnes clearly played in heavily bowler-friendly conditions. Akram's rating is surprisingly low. Link to comment
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