putrevus Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Team selection has been bold, I have not seen any Indian captain being so bold. Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Rahane ok... Rahul drop a crime. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: Rohit is a middle order batsmen and Rahul an opener as simple as that. And there is huge gulf in quality of both players? A better opener is not better than proven middle order failure? Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I don't understand why people are complaining, there is nothing wrong with selection and it has shown that no player is safe and can rest on their past laurels. Jimmy Cliff 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: And there is huge gulf in quality of both players? A better opener is not better than proven middle order failure? I disagree completely, Rahul is not given by any means. Don't make him into Bradman. he seems to be an answer for every vacant spot in all formats for lot of people. Link to comment
adi B Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't understand why people are complaining, there is nothing wrong with selection and it has shown that no player is safe and can rest on their past laurels. The problem is this current line up may well get shunted inside 150 on this pitch against the saffie quicks.dhawan,rohit won't survive on such pitches Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Kohli, Shastri clearly have roles dedicated for batsmen.. Rahul is a designated opener, they will never try him in the middle order in any format.. So, he loses to Dhawan in Tests and Rahane in ODIs. Well, Kohli did not have any problem playing Rohit at no.3, Rahane at no.3 (to play Rohit at no.5) and now Rohit at no.5 (who is a no.6). So fixed positions excuse only for non-buddies? Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, adi B said: The problem is this current line up may well get shunted inside 150 on this pitch against the saffie quicks.dhawan,rohit won't survive on such pitches Can you give it in writing that rahul and Rahane will survive and make 100s. Don't turn them into something they are not. If Dhawan and Rohit fail the other two will get their chances, I don't understand why there is so much fuss. Rahane was not able to buy a run even if he wanted, Rahul when he got his chances did not make himself undroppable. Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't understand why people are complaining, there is nothing wrong with selection and it has shown that no player is safe and can rest on their past laurels. Then Kohli should have dropped himself after failing in Aus home series. Also, what failures did Rahul have? He was our best player in the tough Aus home series and also had a record of 6 or 7 consecutive 50s. Link to comment
gattaca Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 This is a long tour. Every one will get chances. Dhawan earned his chances. Rohit because of Odi form is chosen kohli picks inform players. Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Forever Indian said: Then Kohli should have dropped himself after failing in Aus home series. Also, what failures did Rahul have? He was our best player in the tough Aus home series and also had a record of 6 or 7 consecutive 50s. He did drop himself for fourth test when he was injured didn't he. It has been 9 months since that Aus series and India has played two full test series, it is not Dhwan's fault that Rahul is injury prone , he was out of the team but he got a chance in Sl and he has not looked back. If he fails here Rahul will get his chances to prove himself and Dhwan will be laid to pastures. Kohli sacrificed his comfort in order to pick Rohit when he batted at no3 , what else do you need from captain. Edited January 5, 2018 by putrevus Link to comment
adi B Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, putrevus said: Can you give it in writing that rahul and Rahane will survive and make 100s. Don't turn them into something they are not. If Dhawan and Rohit fail the other two will get their chances, I don't understand why there is so much fuss. Rahane was not able to buy a run even if he wanted, Rahul when he got his chances did not make himself undroppable. I think you can't differentiate between the class of different players.raul's technique is miles better than dhawan to counter this saf seam attack .dhawan will be a toast to philander 10/10 times .rahane is horribly out of form but he still warrants a test spot away from home more than rohit but still this was not the mind boggling change ,the dhawan-raul switch was Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, adi B said: I think you can't differentiate between the class of different players.raul's technique is miles better than dhawan to counter this saf seam attack .dhawan will be a toast to philander 10/10 times .rahane is horribly out of form but he still warrants a test spot away from home more than rohit but still this was not the mind boggling change ,the dhawan-raul switch was Sorry I myself don't see Rahul as this can't miss batsman, selection has been spot on in my view. There is no magic pill that Rahane will suddenly get runs, he was horrible against lowly srilankans in all formats and Indians had no practice matches so they have given chances to players in form. Link to comment
bowl_out Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, Forever Indian said: Well, Kohli did not have any problem playing Rohit at no.3, Rahane at no.3 (to play Rohit at no.5) and now Rohit at no.5 (who is a no.6). So fixed positions excuse only for non-buddies? Don't think he is so rigid with switching players between middle order positions... but he probably sees sending Rahul in the middle order as drastic as sending Rohit to open. Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Don't think he is so rigid with switching players between middle order positions... but he probably sees sending Rahul in the middle order as drastic as sending Rohit to open. No. 3 is as specialist a position as opening. As I said, switching positions allowed only for buddies for them to stay in team. Edited January 5, 2018 by Forever Indian Link to comment
Khota Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Hard to recall when was the last time 2 young batsmen averaging 45-46 were dropped. There have been cases favoritism in case of fringe players, but best ones are generally considered untouchables. First Pujara dropped for slow batting a year back and now Rahul and Rahane. Rahane in poor form, but proven performer. Rahul in form and proven performer. I have no problem with this selection. These decisions in my mind are toss ups and fair. I am baffled at pandya playing. Saha also is a pretender. Rest justify themselves. I would have preferred Ishant over Shami/Bumrah. Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 truly baffling selections. expect to see unadcutter play again in sa soon. Link to comment
Lannister Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 This is just a beginning for Kohli. If he don't correct his methods, he will not survive long. Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lannister said: This is just a beginning for Kohli. If he don't correct his methods, he will not survive long. indian capns are never discarded. Dhoni was the bcci's darling even after the 8-0 drubbing. Link to comment
Pollack Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, putrevus said: Can you give it in writing that rahul and Rahane will survive and make 100s. Don't turn them into something they are not. Absurd. Can you give me in writing Rohit or dhawan or anyone in the team can survive and score 100 for sure. No? Right? So anyone can play for India. I can go and play for India. Why don't they select me . 16 hours ago, putrevus said: If Dhawan and Rohit fail the other two will get their chances, I don't understand why there is so much fuss. Because it should have been other way around. If rahane and rahul failed, dhawan and rohit should have been looked into. Rahul and Rahane should clearly have been first choice.Hence the fuss. BTW I don't see Rahul and Rahane getting chances if India wins and Dhawan and Rohit fails. They will keep getting chances.Only if India lose humiliatingly they may reconsider. 16 hours ago, putrevus said: Rahul when he got his chances did not make himself undroppable. Where is this failure of Rahul that some talk about? You are sounding like casual cricket fan who mix up format and don't know what they are talking about. Rahul has been stellar in tests.Performance is not measured by only century. Those golden half centuries he scored should have made him undroppable atleast for a considerable time. Edited January 6, 2018 by Pollack adi B 1 Link to comment
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