Tattieboy Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 My top 5 would be Wasim Akram Alan Davidson Gary Sobers Zaheer Khan Mitchell Johnson Not in any order except Wasim no 1 Jimmy Cliff and Rightarmfast 2
Vilander Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 1, Akram ( no questions on this one GOAT) 2, Johnson ( That Ashes) 3, Zak(WC + Test Mace) 4, Vaas ( longevity + quality) 5, Starc( he will probably go ahead of others by the time he is finished) Rightarmfast 1
Vilander Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, mancalledsting said: this is common knowledge that KP thinks this about Zak. I remember during 2nd and final test in Mohali during 2008 series, Dhoni brought Yuvi on to bowl at KP when he was new to the crease and KP came out with the famous lines 'why would I be worried about facing a pie chucker like Yuvi when I've got one of the toughest bowlers I've ever faced in my life in Zaheer Khan not bowling in his place'. On a wider note, we had England 2 down for 1 run on the board chasing a huge first innings total, golden chance to win the series 2-0. Zak was on fire but instead Dhoni brought Yuvi into the attack and rest is history, KP went on to get 140 odd. great innings. him and Flintoff..he almost got out to Yuvi though lol..but it was all Zak. KP had his great moments in India, a bit like Hayden. Very good players elsewhere, but greats innings played in India. Rightarmfast and mancalledsting 2
Vilander Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1099202/LIVE--India-v-England-All-action-happens-day-Mohali.html
mancalledsting Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, Vilander said: 1, Akram ( no questions on this one GOAT) 2, Johnson ( That Ashes) 3, Zak(WC + Test Mace) 4, Vaas ( longevity + quality) 5, Starc( he will probably go ahead of others by the time he is finished) everyone is entitled to their own opinion but am really surprised that people rate Johsnon over Vaas and Zak
Vilander Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 1 minute ago, mancalledsting said: everyone is entitled to their own opinion but am really surprised that people rate Johsnon over Vaas and Zak true Johnson had lows that were pretty Wahab Riaz but his highs were pretty well Johnson who is just behind Akram.
Laaloo Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 3 hours ago, mancalledsting said: this is common knowledge that KP thinks this about Zak. I remember during 2nd and final test in Mohali during 2008 series, Dhoni brought Yuvi on to bowl at KP when he was new to the crease and KP came out with the famous lines 'why would I be worried about facing a pie chucker like Yuvi when I've got one of the toughest bowlers I've ever faced in my life in Zaheer Khan not bowling in his place'. On a wider note, we had England 2 down for 1 run on the board chasing a huge first innings total, golden chance to win the series 2-0. Zak was on fire but instead Dhoni brought Yuvi into the attack and rest is history, KP went on to get 140 odd. Good old Dhoni Rightarmfast and mancalledsting 1 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 Depends on batsman , someone like graeme smith or upal tharanga will name zak the toughest as he made their life a hell mancalledsting, SG1994 and Vilander 3
MCcricket Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Tattieboy said: My top 5 would be Wasim Akram Alan Davidson Gary Sobers Zaheer Khan Mitchell Johnson Not in any order except Wasim no 1 I would add Bruce Reid when fit was a great bowler
Tattieboy Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 48 minutes ago, MCcricket said: I would add Bruce Reid when fit was a great bowler He was but as you say when fit. He didn't play enough tests for me. Mitch Johnson for me wasn't really a great bowler , he gets a reputation like Jeff Thomson because of some series of express pace but generally he was all over the place mancalledsting 1
Vilander Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Depends on batsman , someone like graeme smith or upal tharanga will name zak the toughest as he made their life a hell lol yes Smith hehe...he was Zaks bunny hehe
cric_fan Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Johnson was great for a short period no?Otherwise he was pretty average. Rightarmfast and mancalledsting 2
Rightarmfast Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 10 hours ago, Tattieboy said: My top 5 would be Wasim Akram Alan Davidson Gary Sobers Zaheer Khan Mitchell Johnson Not in any order except Wasim no 1 Not sure about Gary Sobers. He was an all time great allrounder, but as a pace bowler, he wasnt special. Checked Alan Davidson's old video out of curiosity. Doesnt look more than 120's. Quick for his time though. mancalledsting 1
Rightarmfast Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 12 hours ago, maniac said: Englishmen or in this case should I say players who represent England rate Zak very highly....I saw this sky sports programme where all the commies were picking their X1 from the 2000s onwards and atleast a couple of them had Zak in their X1’s Yes. have seen that. maniac 1
Rightarmfast Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 12 hours ago, Straight Drive said: I think Vaas must be one more left arm pacer who must have played more tests than Zak. I don't recall any other leftie pacers who played more tests than Zak. Vaas carried his country's weight for a long time. What a player he was. I wont rate him above Zak though. mancalledsting 1
Tattieboy Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Not sure about Gary Sobers. He was an all time great allrounder, but as a pace bowler, he wasnt special. Checked Alan Davidson's old video out of curiosity. Doesnt look more than 120's. Quick for his time though. Alan Davidson was generally regarded within cricket that until Wasim that he was the greatest left arm seamer . Gary Sobers because he was a great batsmen it's now thought he was batsman who bowler a bit but that's false . He was equally good at both , mainly a swing bowler both away and into batsmen. I did think about Vaas and it was a toss of a coin between him and Johnson.
Rightarmfast Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Tattieboy said: Alan Davidson was generally regarded within cricket that until Wasim that he was the greatest left arm seamer . Gary Sobers because he was a great batsmen it's now thought he was batsman who bowler a bit but that's false . He was equally good at both , mainly a swing bowler both away and into batsmen. I did think about Vaas and it was a toss of a coin between him and Johnson. Vaas is special because of his longevity and the kind of workhorse he was for his country. He, like Srinath, had to carry the weight of his team all alone. And thats special.
Tattieboy Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Vaas is special because of his longevity and the kind of workhorse he was for his country. He, like Srinath, had to carry the weight of his team all alone. And thats special. I can go with that, Johnson now 6th best, he is in the middle of his wild spells. Hehe Rightarmfast 1
SUMO Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Wasim Johnson Starc Zak Vaas/boult Can't judge alan davidson
Rightarmfast Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, SUMO said: Wasim Johnson Starc Zak Vaas/boult Can't judge alan davidson Although I personally understand the rationale behind Johnson ranked above Zaheer, I wouldnt agree. I think Zaheer was only 2nd to Wasim.. and perhaps Alan davidson.
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