mishra Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) No, Virat would have dropped him after his mere 15 on his debut. He would have been given one more chance in next away series as replacement. despite him scoring imporatnt runs he would have been dropped as Dhawan and Rohit would have scored odi centuries. At home, He would have been completely ignored as our Bullies and Ashwin would not need a Sachin. Over all, he would have been in and out till his confidence would have become so low that he wouldnt have cared. He was extremely fortunate to play in a era when cricket wasnt commercialised Edited August 8, 2018 by mishra Shunya, Vilander and Switchblade 3 Link to comment
kira Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) A past his prime sachin near the end of his career is still better than every current Indian batsman bar kohli and you are asking if a young sachin would make the team? A 22-23 year old sachin is on par with prime kohli, he'll walk into every side in the world Edited August 8, 2018 by kira Link to comment
mishra Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, mishra said: No, Virat would have dropped him after his mere 15 on his debut. He would have been given one more chance in next away series as replacement. despite him scoring imporatnt runs he would have been dropped as Dhawan and Rohit would have scored odi centuries. At home, He would have been completely ignored as our Bullies and Ashwin would not need a Sachin. Over all, he would have been in and out till his confidence would have become so low that he wouldnt have cared. He was extremely fortunate to play in a era when cricket wasnt commercialised Anyone thinks, I am wrong. Just need to look into facts. Kohli dropped Kumble to select Shashtri despite media/fan uproar. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, kira said: A past his prime sachin near the end of his career is still better than every current Indian batsman bar kohli and you are asking if a young sachin would make the team? A 22-23 year old sachin is on par with prime kohli, he'll walk into every side in the world we are talking about current scenario in 2018, not what he was in 1993. Link to comment
MechEng Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: Akram trundling big time. Akram was never really rated as an express pace bowler barring padosi fans. His whippy arm action made him look 10 kph quicker than he actually was. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, rkt.india said: we are talking about current scenario in 2018, not what he was in 1993. to put it precisely 'SRT would have been unlucky in this era not to have picked at a very tender age'. Why??????? Because he practically proved to be better to each and every top order batsman in the team before he turned 23. The saying that 'SRT was lucky to have picked at an early age' turns upside down the entire context of the situation because 'lucky' is normally associated with an undeserving candidate kira 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: to put it precisely 'SRT would have been unlucky in this era not to have picked at a very tender age'. Why??????? Because he practically proved to be better to each and every top order batsman in the team before he turned 23. The saying that 'SRT was lucky to have picked at an early age' turns upside down the entire context of the situation because 'lucky' is normally associated with an undeserving candidate SRT would have dwarfed Kohli, if he played. Plain and simple. Not by 23. but by 20. Even now, we sing in stadium with his name letting opponent fans/players know that dont get complacent because we havent got Sachin. Now we have Kohli Link to comment
kira Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: to put it precisely 'SRT would have been unlucky in this era not to have picked at a very tender age'. Why??????? Because he practically proved to be better to each and every top order batsman in the team before he turned 23. The saying that 'SRT was lucky to have picked at an early age' turns upside down the entire context of the situation because 'lucky' is normally associated with an undeserving candidate well said, great post Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: to put it precisely 'SRT would have been unlucky in this era not to have picked at a very tender age'. Why??????? Because he practically proved to be better to each and every top order batsman in the team before he turned 23. The saying that 'SRT was lucky to have picked at an early age' turns upside down the entire context of the situation because 'lucky' is normally associated with an undeserving candidate it isnt as simple. There are lot of constraints and factors. Forget what SRT did as 16-18 year old in 1989. Think whether he could do same now with all those constraints due to advent of T20. Shunya 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: it isnt as simple. There are lot of constraints and factors. Forget what SRT did as 16-18 year old in 1989. Think whether he could do same now with all those constraints due to advent of T20. I credit SRT batting bully and strike rate for advent of T20 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, rkt.india said: it isnt as simple. There are lot of constraints and factors. Forget what SRT did as 16-18 year old in 1989. Think whether he could do same now with all those constraints due to advent of T20. this can be said about any great batsman of the gone eras.But the simple theory that 'a great in any era would prove to be a great in any other era' applies here too. Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 He would make it into the team of course, but then not everyone is SRT.. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 hours ago, rtmohanlal said: this can be said about any great batsman of the gone eras.But the simple theory that 'a great in any era would prove to be a great in any other era' applies here too. i dont apply that theory anywhere. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, rkt.india said: i dont apply that theory anywhere. then you believe that SRT would have found it difficult to find a place in the eleven competing with the likes of Dhawan,Pujara,Rahul,Rahane,Kartik & Vijay.I shall stick on with my thinking. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, rtmohanlal said: then you believe that SRT would have found it difficult to find a place in the eleven competing with the likes of Dhawan,Pujara,Rahul,Rahane,Kartik & Vijay.I shall stick on with my thinking. A pack of wolves can protect their turf against a lone lion. Dhawan,Rohit Kohli combo along with Bunty would have not selected him. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, mishra said: A pack of wolves can protect their turf against a lone lion. Dhawan,Rohit Kohli combo along with Bunty would have not selected him. i am speaking on strict merit terms. If deliberate partiality is shown towards any body, that person can't do anything.But keep in mind Sachin began to produce results from the first tough assignment itself raki05 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, rtmohanlal said: i am speaking on strict merit terms. If deliberate partiality is shown towards any body, that person can't do anything.But keep in mind Sachin began to produce results from the first tough assignment itself rkt is lamenting about current state of affairs. Merit terms, 16 years old Sachin would have been part of Indian squad or any squad. Any day. If he was left to play domestic cricket till 23, Only god knows how many runs he would have scored in domestic cricket UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Number Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, mishra said: A pack of wolves can protect their turf against a lone lion. Dhawan,Rohit Kohli combo along with Bunty would have not selected him. SRT's Ranji avg is close to 90. No matter what a young player with such record can't be kept out for long. raki05 and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Even someone like Rishabh Pant is doing so much rounds among our "experts" on icf and social media. Do you think someone like Sachin would have been ignored? I don't think so. UrmiSinhaRay and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
The Outsider Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 13 hours ago, rkt.india said: Shaw already did all that and even more scoring runs at A level in England at 18. Shaw should be in the playing 11. He has done remarkably well at all levels, and India’s openers are underperforming. I’ve read of his technical glitches, but it’s time that those glitches be exposed at the highest level, if they have to be. It’s obvious by now that he has enough skills to overcome them at FC level. UrmiSinhaRay and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
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