Has Ashwin finally closed the case for playing spinners in tests in SENA?

[zen]

unless of ATG level (Warne, Murali, Chandra, etc. ) or conditions are relatively spin friendly or the spinner is in excellent form .... Discuss 

 

PS also consider that, unlike in the past, our pace bowling is strong 

Edited September 1, 2018 by zen

[Austin 3:!6]

A good off spinner would hv been deadly in this pitch. Ashwin is incompetent.

[R.D forever]

Ashwin is 32 he can still comeback. Remember Kumble was not good till 2003, almost 10 yrs after his debut. 

 

Having said that, for now he has become the second spinner. Jadeja should get preference in 5th test and in Australia series

[Sachinism]

8 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

A good off spinner would hv been deadly in this pitch. Ashwin is incompetent.

OPs argument is ridiculous. Just because Ashwin is useless spinners shouldn't be played.

Watch Moeen give our batsmen nightmares

[speedheat]

As I said a rough track bully.

[rkt.india]

14 minutes ago, Sachinism said:

OPs argument is ridiculous. Just because Ashwin is useless spinners shouldn't be played.

Watch Moeen give our batsmen nightmares

Moeen playing at home. Same Moeen was useless in aus and wasn't great in India.

[zen]

The spinner instead of doing well in relatively helpful conditions brought the English batsmen in to form 

 

1 wkt in 204 balls 

 

BOWLING	O	M	R	W	ECON	WD	NB
R Ashwin	34	6	78	1	2.29	0	0

[chewy]

Not going to blame Ashwin

His record in England is on par with other visiting spinners from other teams, or even better

 

But felt he could have adjusted his pace and length quicker considering his experience

 

if there is any blame, has to be the batsmen, bunch of amateurs 

[MechEng]

1 minute ago, chewy said:

Not going to blame Ashwin

His record in England is on par with other visiting spinners from other teams, or even better

 

But felt he could have adjusted his pace and length quicker considering his experience

 

if there is any blame, has to be the batsmen, bunch of amateurs 

Despite achieving high fitness standards, even Imran Nazir can concentrate longer on the crease than some of these guys.

 

The game has gone from skill based to power/fitness based, I guess that has impacted the traditional skills of a batsman.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Running away from a strategy because one guy failed at it or keep repeating the same old trick because one guy succeeded at it eventhough it has become very predictable is something a certain someone captain would often do....

[Brainfade]

Didn't he recently take 4/60 odd in England and we were all going gaga? Or is my mind playing tricks? Or didn't we like not *need* it then?

 

Fickle fans 

[zen]

1 minute ago, Brainfade said:

Didn't he recently take 4/60 odd in England and we were all going gaga? Or is my mind playing tricks? Or didn't we like not *need* it then?

 

Fickle fans 

that is considered an outlier performance 

 

 

 

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

A good off spinner would hv been deadly in this pitch. Ashwin is incompetent.

^^^^^^^^^^This x 1000

[Khota]

At this level if you still have body fat I really question his commitment to the game.

[Brainfade]

14 minutes ago, zen said:

that is considered an outlier performance 

 

 

 

How come we went gaga?

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Brainfade said:

How come we went gaga?

who went gaga? 

[Brainfade]

7 minutes ago, zen said:

who went gaga? 

http://www.indiancricketfans.com/forums/topic/108817-india-tour-of-england-1st-test-at-edgbaston-1st-aug-330-pm/?page=41&tab=comments#comment-3715770

[zen]

3 minutes ago, Brainfade said:

http://www.indiancricketfans.com/forums/topic/108817-india-tour-of-england-1st-test-at-edgbaston-1st-aug-330-pm/?page=41&tab=comments#comment-3715770

Ashwin took Cook's wkt so the comment. Even a run out will generate a comment 

 

This is more of a strategic thread .... 

Edited September 1, 2018 by zen

[Brainfade]

39 minutes ago, zen said:

Ashwin took Cook's wkt so the comment. Even a run out will generate a comment 

 

This is more of a strategic thread .... 

The whole thread is glowing. With a couple of posters here, we either raise someone to an Atg or drop them from the team. Jazbaati.

[zen]

Just now, Brainfade said:

The whole thread is glowing. With a couple of posters here, we either raise someone to an Atg or drop them from the team. Jazbaati.

So? .... why don't you comment on the merits and demerits looking at the patterns?