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hmm hard to see a role for Pandya even in India. 2 spinners and 2 pacers is enough in the subcontinent. May as well play keeper plus 6 frontline batsman. 

 

Personally this was probably the test to play Pandya. Vihari could have opened. Post this tour Shaw and Agarwal are probably the pair of choice.

 

 

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Just now, G_B_ said:

the Gujju "aapno" factor has bitten @zen

 

Once Pandya is in, threads for Parthiv and Shaw opening combo.

:lol: I support talented youngsters .... m neutral about Parthiv and Jadeja 

 

my fav current players are -> Pujara, Kohli, Bumrah, Pandya, Kuldeep, Shami, Shaw, Pant, Gill (on potential) .... mostly young talented players that I try to support :dance: .... once likes of  Pandya get a decent run will probably not support him if not performing

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16 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Still no one missing him.

 

Let's see what happens tomorrow.

What criteria are you using now? :lol:

 

Tons of ppl have posted that Pandya should be playing. We saw how Aus bowlers faired, and under such circumstances likes of KL and Rahane failed

 

I hope you are not equating being saved by those whose position are not in question such as Pujara, Pant, etc as all is well 

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4 hours ago, Clarke said:

Not at the expense of Vihari I hope, he's showing some promise. He also has a better bowling avg/SR than Pandya if someone's keen on copy pasting numbers :giggle:

Missed the gem above^ 

 

FACT: In SEA in 2018, where both of them have played, Pandya had a better SR as a bowler (and despite bowling with an older ball many times) and also won a test in Eng :lol:

 

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Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SRAscending 5 10  
JJ Bumrah 9 18 379.4 89 1009 48 6/33 9/86 21.02 2.65 47.4 3 0 investigate this query
Mohammed Shami 11 21 371.5 66 1235 45 6/56 6/74 27.44 3.32 49.5 2 0 investigate this query
I Sharma 10 19 323.0 69 849 37 5/51 6/97 22.94 2.62 52.3 1 0 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 12 115.1 14 409 13 5/28 6/50 31.46 3.55 53.1 1 0 investigate this query
GH Vihari 3 6 44.3 9 130 5 3/37 3/38 26.00 2.92 53.4 0 0 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 13 303.0 69 724 24 4/62 7/121 30.16 2.38 75.7 0 0

 

 

and has 2 50+ scores too in SEA 

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Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 11 22 0 1138 153 51.72 2125 53.55 4 5 2 129 2 investigate this query
CA Pujara 10 20 1 706 132* 37.15 1953 36.14 3 3 3 76 2 investigate this query
RR Pant 6 12 0 353 114 29.41 536 65.85 1 0 1 36 10 investigate this query
AM Rahane 9 18 0 513 81 28.50 1142 44.92 0 4 1 51 3 investigate this query
RG Sharma 4 8 1 184 63* 26.28 389 47.30 0 1 0 16 4 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 14 1 283 93 21.76 461 61.38 0 2 2 42 2 investigate this query
KL Rahul 9 18 0 377 149 20.94 647 58.26 1 0 3 51 2 investigate this query
GH Vihari 3 6 0 125 56 20.83 362 34.53 0 1 1 14 1 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 14 2 246 38 20.50 415 59.27 0 0 0 34 1 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 7 14 0 177 46 12.64 588 30.10 0 0 3 19 0

 

 

Despite being a specialist batsman, Vihari has not even looked like getting a 50 in this series on a consistent basis (and in no time has been found out vs short ball). If he batted in SA, his avg probably would have been be even lower .... Point being that it is difficult to play all 3 of KL/Rohit, Rahane and Vihari in the 11 :winky:

 

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17 minutes ago, zen said:

Missed the gem above^ 

 

FACT: In SEA in 2018, where both of them have played, Pandya had a better SR as a bowler (and despite bowling with an older ball many times) and also won a test in Eng :lol:

 

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Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SRAscending 5 10  
JJ Bumrah 9 18 379.4 89 1009 48 6/33 9/86 21.02 2.65 47.4 3 0 investigate this query
Mohammed Shami 11 21 371.5 66 1235 45 6/56 6/74 27.44 3.32 49.5 2 0 investigate this query
I Sharma 10 19 323.0 69 849 37 5/51 6/97 22.94 2.62 52.3 1 0 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 12 115.1 14 409 13 5/28 6/50 31.46 3.55 53.1 1 0 investigate this query
GH Vihari 3 6 44.3 9 130 5 3/37 3/38 26.00 2.92 53.4 0 0 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 13 303.0 69 724 24 4/62 7/121 30.16 2.38 75.7 0 0

 

 

and has 2 50+ scores too in SEA 

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Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 11 22 0 1138 153 51.72 2125 53.55 4 5 2 129 2 investigate this query
CA Pujara 10 20 1 706 132* 37.15 1953 36.14 3 3 3 76 2 investigate this query
RR Pant 6 12 0 353 114 29.41 536 65.85 1 0 1 36 10 investigate this query
AM Rahane 9 18 0 513 81 28.50 1142 44.92 0 4 1 51 3 investigate this query
RG Sharma 4 8 1 184 63* 26.28 389 47.30 0 1 0 16 4 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 14 1 283 93 21.76 461 61.38 0 2 2 42 2 investigate this query
KL Rahul 9 18 0 377 149 20.94 647 58.26 1 0 3 51 2 investigate this query
GH Vihari 3 6 0 125 56 20.83 362 34.53 0 1 1 14 1 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 14 2 246 38 20.50 415 59.27 0 0 0 34 1 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 7 14 0 177 46 12.64 588 30.10 0 0 3 19 0

 

 

Vihari has not even looked like getting a 50 in this series on a consistent basis (and probably has been found out vs short ball). If he batted in SA, his avg probably would have been be even lower .... Point being that it is difficult to play all 3 of KL/Rohit, Rahane and Vihari in the 11 :winky:

 

Lol. Vihari is good stop throwing stats for a new kid. You completely ignore the unfair decision he got in this test and got promoted as opener to accommodate others.

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2 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Lol. Vihari is good stop throwing stats for a new kid. You completely ignore the unfair decision he got in this test and got promoted as opener to accommodate others.

Appears as if you have forgotten that Pandya is in his first season and good too .... And stats were thrown by the poster I responded too. Don't have to get too excited if Vihari does not measure up 

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4 hours ago, zen said:

Missed the gem above^ 

 

FACT: In SEA in 2018, where both of them have played, Pandya had a better SR as a bowler (and despite bowling with an older ball many times) and also won a test in Eng :lol:

 

Bowling

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Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SRAscending 5 10  
JJ Bumrah 9 18 379.4 89 1009 48 6/33 9/86 21.02 2.65 47.4 3 0 investigate this query
Mohammed Shami 11 21 371.5 66 1235 45 6/56 6/74 27.44 3.32 49.5 2 0 investigate this query
I Sharma 10 19 323.0 69 849 37 5/51 6/97 22.94 2.62 52.3 1 0 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 12 115.1 14 409 13 5/28 6/50 31.46 3.55 53.1 1 0 investigate this query
GH Vihari 3 6 44.3 9 130 5 3/37 3/38 26.00 2.92 53.4 0 0 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 13 303.0 69 724 24 4/62 7/121 30.16 2.38 75.7 0 0

 

 

and has 2 50+ scores too in SEA 

Batting

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Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
V Kohli 11 22 0 1138 153 51.72 2125 53.55 4 5 2 129 2 investigate this query
CA Pujara 10 20 1 706 132* 37.15 1953 36.14 3 3 3 76 2 investigate this query
RR Pant 6 12 0 353 114 29.41 536 65.85 1 0 1 36 10 investigate this query
AM Rahane 9 18 0 513 81 28.50 1142 44.92 0 4 1 51 3 investigate this query
RG Sharma 4 8 1 184 63* 26.28 389 47.30 0 1 0 16 4 investigate this query
HH Pandya 7 14 1 283 93 21.76 461 61.38 0 2 2 42 2 investigate this query
KL Rahul 9 18 0 377 149 20.94 647 58.26 1 0 3 51 2 investigate this query
GH Vihari 3 6 0 125 56 20.83 362 34.53 0 1 1 14 1 investigate this query
R Ashwin 7 14 2 246 38 20.50 415 59.27 0 0 0 34 1 investigate this query
S Dhawan 5 10 0 194 44 19.40 325 59.69 0 0 0 28 0 investigate this query
M Vijay 7 14 0 177 46 12.64 588 30.10 0 0 3 19 0

 

 

Despite being a specialist batsman, Vihari has not even looked like getting a 50 in this series on a consistent basis (and in no time has been found out vs short ball). If he batted in SA, his avg probably would have been be even lower .... Point being that it is difficult to play all 3 of KL/Rohit, Rahane and Vihari in the 11 :winky:

 

Gosh, it was a joke! I stated Vihari's bowling average & SR as a joke and u brought out the filter to show pandya's better average ? Do you monitor body temp & blood pressure as closely  and consult a doctor on 98.6 deg or 121/80 ?

 

Vihari is a very new kid on the international scene & shows the needed promise with the bat which was missing in Eng. Unless Pandya brings out that batting potential, he shouldn't be # 6/7.

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1 minute ago, Clarke said:

Gosh, it was a joke! I stated Vihari's bowling average & SR as a joke and u brought out the filter to show pandya's better average ? Do you monitor body temp & blood pressure as closely  and consult a doctor on 98.6 deg or 121/80 ?

 

Vihari is a very new kid on the international scene & shows the needed promise with the bat which was missing in Eng. Unless Pandya brings out that batting potential, he shouldn't be # 6/7.

Pandya has shown better match winning abilities both with the bat and the ball 

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