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Steve Smith reclaims No.1 Test ranking from Virat Kohli

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Vijy Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, Chrish said:

On a side note, team management should be careful in managing Kohli’s massive workload. 

 

I mean playing all the test series in combination with Odis, t20, Ipl; when you play this much Cricket, burnouts and injury would happen. I know they wanna milk the cash cow cause more people would watch if the stars are playing, but still it’s not really good for the players. I fear for Bhumrah too 

bumrah is bigger issue since he is a fast bowler and we need him to win test matches in SENA

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bahubali Newbie

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7 hours ago, Chrish said:

On a side note, team management should be careful in managing Kohli’s massive workload. 

 

I mean playing all the test series in combination with Odis, t20, Ipl; when you play this much Cricket, burnouts and injury would happen. I know they wanna milk the cash cow cause more people would watch if the stars are playing, but still it’s not really good for the players. I fear for Bhumrah too 

It's kohli himself who went running to play wi odi and T20 inspite of selectors wanted him to take rest during WI loi.

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Ankit_sharma03 Grand Master

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14 hours ago, Stan AF said:

Actually it's time for our team to develop an all weather 50+ average batsman in addition to Kohli. Even pujara finds it difficult to consistently average above 50.

Its upto individual to take themselves to that level and maintain it....no one else cant do much but only individuals themselves 

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17 hours ago, Insidious said:

Virat Kohli should stop playing meaning less LOIs , and concentrate on tests, where he has some points to prove. Kohli has 6  double centuries and four of them has been scored in the span 1-1.5 yrs. He require another such purple patch to come closer to Smith. And there is no reason why he can't do that again.

He shud leave LOI captaincy which will give him sometime to just concentrate on his game as batsman......Captaincy takes a lot out of an individual .....smith doesnt have that burden anymore

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moving forward it would be a tight  contest between Kohli & Smith  for that  title of the  best batsman of this generation. Just as was the case with Sachin-Lara in the 90s this would be an exciting contest. The Roots ,Williamsons and all others   can be the   Pontings,Kaliises, Dravids of that era.  These 2 has convincingly  moved ahead of the pack.

 

Smith is  a monster in tests &  when conditions favours him can rack up huge scores one after the another  irrespective of   whether wickets tumble around him or not. In unfavourable conditions he can still avg:  'high 30s -low 40s'. Kohli too  is not far behind in  this regard  with '593+ series totals' in 4 series as of now.   His problems  are his 'ODI influence' in  tests   there by trialing almost by 11 in avg: to Smith, generally  a bit more pressure of expectations from crores of  fans back home &  too much burden  on his shoulders(would benefit him a lot if he follows the Smith & Root way to relieve himself of at least ODI captaincy) . Across eras, there is no doubt that  the lack of adequate  <25 averaging bowlers  in general is helping these 2  batsmen a lot in racking up these monster series aggregates. 

 

In ODIs these is no parallel to Kohli  these days. Leads Smith by almost 19 in avg:(huge gap), leads him by whopping 35 in no: of 100s,  chase master with  26 100s in chases(toughest job in ODIs), avg:ing above 45 in all countries, has won high profile bilateral series with his typical chases .Smith's country wise record is pathetic  to say the least. Kohli has  some high profile knock out inns in ODIs  too. Kohli lags Smith by only 1 or 2 world cup knock outs.  So all in all in ODIs , even if slightly lesser in weightage when compared to tests, Kohli leads  Smith by a whopping margin.

 

Last and the least , in T20s Kohli is a monster  with some  clutch  knocks even in world cups where as Smith is virtually non-existent in this format.

 

So all in all,  'Smith's  utter dominance over the others in tests &  his   WC  knock out performances   put together ' enables him to lead over the likes of Willamson & Root , but not Kohli as of now.

 

Kohli still for  me as an over all batsman as of now.Moving forward it would be an interesting contest  because on one side  Smith is in the peak of his career and on the other side not all series are Ashes, the likes of Bumrah, Rabada, Abbas,Ashwin,Roach etc who are deadly in their own conditions would be waiting to make Smith  'come back to  the group in tests'. Kohli seriously has to think about relieving him self off too much burden to be competent at least in his normal self.

 

 

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Ankit_sharma03 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, rtmohanlal said:

such a great achievement for a  such a great batsman... but can't underestimate the Aussie bowling by any bit.... imagine Agarkar, Venkatesh Prasad, Srinath  bowling in the place of Cummins & co.....

Srinath wud have had them in trouble....these eng batsman are not good in test ...hack hai adhe saale

Even the series against us Curran saved their arse so many times who is more sound the most of their batsman 

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2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Srinath wud have had them in trouble....these eng batsman are not good in test ...hack hai adhe saale

Even the series against us Curran saved their arse so many times who is more sound the most of their batsman 

the same Srinath was reduced to  minnow level  during the 96, 90 series of ours. Srinath is a 30 avg: level bowler from the generally better bowler  supportive era where as Cummins & co are averaging far better  .No comparison

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4 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

the same Srinath was reduced to  minnow level  during the 96, 90 series of ours. Srinath is a 30 avg: level bowler from the generally better bowler  supportive era where as Cummins & co are averaging far better  .No comparison

comparison is not right

Srinath had no support and batsman during that phase had much better technique then today in after effects of t20 

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Updated Ranking after 4th Ashes test: 

 

Top 5 Test batters

1 Steve Smith (Aus) 937 Rating points

2 Virat Kohli (India) 903

3 Kane Williamson (NZ) 878

4 Cheteshwar Pujara (India) 825

5 Henry Nicholls (NZ) 749

 

Top 5 Test bowlers

1 Pat Cummins (Aus) 914 Rating points

2 Kagiso Rabada (SA) 851

3 Jasprit Bumrah (India) 835

4 Jason Holder (WI) 814

5 Vernon Philander (SA) 813

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1 hour ago, Nikola said:

Updated Ranking after 4th Ashes test: 

 

Top 5 Test batters

1 Steve Smith (Aus) 937 Rating points

2 Virat Kohli (India) 903

3 Kane Williamson (NZ) 878

4 Cheteshwar Pujara (India) 825

5 Henry Nicholls (NZ) 749

 

Top 5 Test bowlers

1 Pat Cummins (Aus) 914 Rating points

2 Kagiso Rabada (SA) 851

3 Jasprit Bumrah (India) 835

4 Jason Holder (WI) 814

5 Vernon Philander (SA) 813

Smith might surpass his own record of 947 rating points in the next match.

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