rkt.india Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29269215/why-greatest-age-fast-bowling-60-years Rightarmfast 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Never, ever, thought this was possible in my lifetime! Wow! vishalvirsingh, Mosher, Norman and 1 other 1 3
Khota Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 This is not rocket science. Diet is better, training is better. Players are more athletic and you can see the results on the field. Moving forward it gets better. express bowling and Rightarmfast 1 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 On 6/6/2020 at 12:06 AM, Khota said: This is not rocket science. Diet is better, training is better. Players are more athletic and you can see the results on the field. Moving forward it gets better. True, but that only explains how India caught up with the giants. The surprise is that we have surpassed the giants. Rightarmfast and express bowling 2
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 @rkt.india @express bowling how much credit should go to Bharat Arun for this? Is the Indian fast-bowling unit succeeding because of his coaching or despite his coaching? Lord 1
express bowling Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: @rkt.india @express bowling how much credit should go to Bharat Arun for this? Is the Indian fast-bowling unit succeeding because of his coaching or despite his coaching? I feel that our fast bowling revolution is due to atleast 20 different factors ... and Arun is one of those factors. Khota, Mosher, BacktoCricaddict and 1 other 1 3
maniac Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 54 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: @rkt.india @express bowling how much credit should go to Bharat Arun for this? Is the Indian fast-bowling unit succeeding because of his coaching or despite his coaching? Arun deserves a lot of credit. Only credible coach in the Indian team management. However we need to give credit to TA Sekhar and Dennis Lillee and the MRF foundation. The most lethal attack India could have had was in early 2000s. Peak Nehra and Zak, Srinath and then add Agarkar in the reserves that was one hell of a bowling line up. Too bad apart from 2003 WC (finals excluded) they didn’t play too many overseas tests together. Also remember we had Sreeshanth, RP,Irfan,Munaf all emerging around the same time. In fact those guys have won and drawn series in SENA even though again we haven’t seen a combo of these bowlers firing at once together. I would say we have great fitness standards and technology now and a larger pool of talented reserves which keeps these bowlers on their heels all the time. I would give Arun the credit for managing them well but so far I am disappointed because apart from the current attack which is well seasoned, I don’t see any younger bowler developing yet. Khaleel lost his way, Siraj had too many nervous breakdowns and Saini is real good but hasn’t really got the big opportunities yet. BacktoCricaddict 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, maniac said: Siraj had too many nervous breakdowns and Saini is real good but hasn’t really got the big opportunities yet. (1) Format mismatch: Siraj was doing really well in domestic FC and India-A FC matches. And what did the selectors do? Debuted him in T20 where he got carted and lost his mojo. (2) Selection timing: Both Siraj and Saini toiled in domestics for more seasons than necessary. They, especially Siraj, were given chances not when they were totally dominating, but a year or more later. Ankit_sharma03, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 4
maniac Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: (1) Format mismatch: Siraj was doing really well in domestic FC and India-A FC matches. And what did the selectors do? Debuted him in T20 where he got carted and lost his mojo. (2) Selection timing: Both Siraj and Saini toiled in domestics for more seasons than necessary. They, especially Siraj, were given chances not when they were totally dominating, but a year or more later. Good point. Totally agree.
Khota Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 9 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: True, but that only explains how India caught up with the giants. The surprise is that we have surpassed the giants. That has everything to do with the size of Indian economy. If you have top 5 economy in the world that is exactly what you will get. express bowling 1
Rightarmfast Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 7:52 PM, rkt.india said: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29269215/why-greatest-age-fast-bowling-60-years Excellent article @rkt.india. Thanks for sharing. What a full circle Indian fast bowling has come to. It is majorly due to the stats of Indian bowlers that the nos for this era look good. Mosher and rkt.india 1 1
rkt.india Posted June 10, 2020 Author Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 12:14 AM, BacktoCricaddict said: @rkt.india @express bowling how much credit should go to Bharat Arun for this? Is the Indian fast-bowling unit succeeding because of his coaching or despite his coaching? The most important factor is change of mindset where they are given freedom to express themselves and the belief that they will have to win us games, that they are important for the team. They are not all the time bowling according to the captain. They have learnt to bowl their own way. Biggest is work outside the cricket game like improveo in fitness, methodical practice with coach giving right direction and motivation. Mosher 1
Gollum Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 This is the greatest era of fast bowling India at its strongest Full strength Aus at or close to being its best ever....Cummins, Hazlewood, Pattinson, Starc NZ at its strongest with amazing depth Eng very strong though remains to be seen how they do without Anderson, still maybe only the 2004-05 and 2009-12 Eng teams had stronger bowling units in the last 35+ years RSA again fantastic especially outside India WI resurgent, saw how they did against Eng in 2018? Nature of pitches changing which plays to their strengths BD at its best though nothing much to write home about Lanka always had an alpha (Vaas, Malinga) and a mediocre supporting cast, now they don't have a world class quick but 3-4 guys with potential Pak seems to be developing a strong pace unit with induction of so many young, exciting quicks, won't read too much into their past success because this gen can't get away with tampering
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