randomGuy Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, speedheat said: Don't worry protest and march will continue Farmers' Protest LIVE Updates: Won't Leave Protest Site Despite SC Order, Tractor March Will Happen in Delhi on Republic Day, Says Farm Leader Link:- Now the protestors blocking the roads should worry Muloghonto, coffee_rules and speedheat 1 2
Clarke Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Overreach aside, why did the SC appoint these people from agri in the committee ? Shouldn't they appoint Ambani, Adani, Damani & some other Gujarati/Marwari billionaire since the courts are sold out as per our left media & supporters ? Anything that goes against their ideology is corrupt and sold out, be it EVMs or the Supreme Court. They always had their NDTV, Hindustan Times, Frontline and other media houses operational since decades and when the right played the same trick, "hey look, godi media!" happened. Edited January 12, 2021 by Clarke speedheat, coffee_rules and mishra 1 2
Khota Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: MSP was never a legislative decision but administrative. There is no MSP law. But it was understood and that was a base bargaining point. Farming is regulated all over the world. I cant believe the level of hate for someone making 10,000 rs per month.
Nonbeliever Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Clarke said: Overreach aside, why did the SC appoint these people from agri in the committee ? Shouldn't they appoint Ambani, Adani, Damani & some other Gujarati/Marwari billionaire since the courts are sold out as per our left media & supporters ? Anything that goes against their ideology is corrupt and sold out, be it EVMs or the Supreme Court. They always had their NDTV, Hindustan Times, Frontline and other media houses operational since decades and when the right played the same trick, "hey look, godi media!" happened. Don't worry not a single member of the committee is against the bill. All four openly supports the bill. Edited January 12, 2021 by Nonbeliever coffee_rules 1
Khota Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, randomGuy said: That's the thing... Khalistanis, anti nationals, ISI, caste-ists and rich-dalal farmers are controlling the show from background, and some gullible poor farmers and gullible fools like @khota are being used as pawns.... The poor guy thinks highly of himself thinking he's able to engage so many posters over here. Farmers protecting Rs 10,000 per month and that is too much. Cannot debate on issues and resort to name calling. This is not a Khalistani or ISI or rich farmer issue. This is about economic disparity which is getting worse.
Nonbeliever Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Khota said: Farmers protecting Rs 10,000 per month and that is too much. Cannot debate on issues and resort to name calling. This is not a Khalistani or ISI or rich farmer issue. This is about economic disparity which is getting worse. Don't waste time here. No point debating when only thing they know about is religion, sticks,goons and all. Edited January 12, 2021 by Nonbeliever
coffee_rules Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, Khota said: But it was understood and that was a base bargaining point. Farming is regulated all over the world. I cant believe the level of hate for someone making 10,000 rs per month. It is still understood and nothing has changed for MSP. Government gave it in writing, but the farmers want to repeal now.. Whatever was asked was given by this phattu government. MSP/APMC no change in writing -Yes Free electricity - Yes no penalty for stubble burning, which they can freely burn now and pollute Indraprastha - Yes Now seeing how government is relenting, they want repeal of laws- Government finally says No SC is not against laws, making it mandatory for farmers to negotiate and not demand repeal of laws. Still call it outreach as they are not consistent. CAA ShaheenBagh - SC said mediation necessary Same case here But passes any order with no mediation for protests like Jallikattu, Sabarimala, etc. mishra 1
Clarke Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Its good to have members with religious studies and liberal arts backgrounds or maybe just inclinations on this forum, adds some comedy to serious topics. I'm reminded of this epic series based on the comparisons made in this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeF_o1Ss1NQ Which do you prefer? a)Atom Bombs (Ambani) b)Charity (Poor Farmer) Math question: If it costs 5 billion pounds a year to maintain Britain's nuclear defence & 75 pounds a year to feed a starving African child, how many African children could be saved from starvation if the ministry of defence abandons nuclear weapons (make whatever equivalence you like, it'll be funny) Note: Hardly anyone defends PSUs or condones bankruptcies occurring due to incompetence of prior govts & banking heads but the lack of logic on display is just comical Edited January 12, 2021 by Clarke coffee_rules, mishra and urbestfriend 3
someone Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Its game over for the mob. End of manufactured protest. The aim was always de-escalation, and this move has brought it, and lessen the heat on GOI. The repeal or nothing attitude was foolish. That side have no facts, no clause by clause arguments, so they have nothing to present to the SC committee. Whereas, GOI have 2 decades of data, information, consultation, research reports. It was a long pending demand which was this GOI fulfilled with the 3 new farm bills. With SC committee, the small farmers and consumers get a voice and space to support the farm bills, instead of the mob dictating and bullying . The committee will take months, so they need to remove from the roads NOW given the de-escalation of the situation. They cannot threaten and further escalate the situation anymore. Edited January 12, 2021 by someone mishra 1
someone Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Clarke said: Overreach aside It's institutional, as our system has allowed veto power to different groups, be it certain minority groups or professions. Both the government, SC are seen helpless in this entire fiasco. A distinguished citizen like Yogendra Yadav was allowed power to "suspend" the rights for free movement of our people, and nothing was done about it. The fault lies in our democracy, as where is the checks and balances? mishra 1
coffee_rules Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, someone said: Its game over for the mob. End of manufactured protest. The aim was always de-escalation, and this move has brought it, and lessen the heat on GOI. The repeal or nothing attitude was foolish. That side have no facts, clause by clause arguments, so they have nothing to present to the SC committee. Whereas, GOI have 2 decades of data, information, consultation, research reports. It was a long pending demand which was this GOI fulfilled with the 3 new farm bills. With SC committee, the small farmers and customers get a voice and space to support the farm bills, instead of the mob dictating and bullying . The committee will take months, so they need to remove from the roads NOW given the de-escalation of the situation. They cannot threaten and further escalate the situation anymore. You have high hopes, look at this nutter mishra 1
coffee_rules Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 One of the SC judges in the committee negotiating with farmers - Justice Bobde , James Bobde
someone Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: You have high hopes, look at this nutter Law of diminishing returns. One can't keeping escalating the situation, the costs are more than benefits now. They can't keep threatening and retaliation, else it will clear it is only ego match for the mob led by a distinguished citizen Yogender Yadav. The common man wants law and order. The common man wants facts, and reality of farm bills and 2 decades of work, which will be clear with the SC committee. Thus, no surprising, that the thugs keeps running away from debate or any clause by clause discussion. Edited January 12, 2021 by someone coffee_rules 1
Nonbeliever Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Under_Score said: Yep, this is the last ditch effort from the Feku party, didn't Supreme court say that farmers can protest peacefully, does the Govt care....roads are still blocked by the corrupt shitholean politicians. Modi and his bhakts have no idea what kind of anger is there Just yesterday in my small city(rajasthan) close to punjab border. there was a massive rally which lasted for more than 2 and half hours on national highway. Have not seen anything like this in my life time. Fools think this is political. Congress can't gather that many people in whole india. Edited January 12, 2021 by Nonbeliever Under_Score and Stan AF 2
urbestfriend Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Under_Score said: True...their temporary joy is that 'Feku made a great move'... 13 loksabha seats in danger now?? coffee_rules 1
Nonbeliever Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, urbestfriend said: 13 loksabha seats in danger now?? Bhakts can't think above petty politics. Under_Score 1
Nonbeliever Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Under_Score said: True...their temporary joy is that 'Feku made a great move'... That move is not foolish. They did the best they could. They have put farmers directly against the supreme court.
someone Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 Haha, the usual suspects want the farmers to continue their unlawful protests. They really want them to go to Parliament and lay siege to the government, courts. Like Trump and the Capitol incident. Anarchy, and chaos can't be tolerated. Bullying is not a solution, and these thugs should stop their dangerous behavior, and not run away from the debate. Again, where is the clause by clause issues,? Occupying roads, does not make one right ever....
coffee_rules Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, urbestfriend said: 13 loksabha seats in danger now?? Now, they are calling everybody who are opposing the bills as Feku, BJP, Ambani lapdogs. They have no other sound argument. Kanedian khalistani sympathizers think even SC is sold out. What can you say to that? Welcome to the BJP IT celll Lol Edited January 12, 2021 by coffee_rules LordPrabhzy, Muloghonto, urbestfriend and 2 others 5
urbestfriend Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 Farm law is non issue for majority Indians. Even when SC has temporarily stalled the bill, these so called "protestors" have no business to be in the street, inconveniencing so many people. But they have a choice to continue protest, but they will have no backers eventually.
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