Vilander Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: raids and journalists arrests are nothing that other governments like UPA didn’t do Whataboutism. Under_Score 1
coffee_rules Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Vilander said: Whataboutism. Yeah, why is that a cause for concern when it seems like the norm? What is it different from UPA? You are like the award wapsi gang that you are seeing this happening for the first time in your life. Edited February 22, 2021 by coffee_rules
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Go look there is no FIR by DP on Greta. It is about the toolkit and Disha and others are being interrogated. IT raids and journalists arrests are nothing that other governments like UPA didn’t do. BJP is not sacrosanct To be cocerned about. After they sensed the outrage they dropped the FIR. If there was no pushback they would have gone ahead. Just because other govt. did does not make it right to arrest journalists. They are the true keepers of freedom. Under_Score 1
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 38 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Yeah, why is that a cause for concern when it seems like the norm? What is it different from UPA? You are like the award wapsi gang that you are seeing this happening for the first time in your life. Some of us were critical then and are critical now. It is about India and its citizens, not about these political parties. Under_Score 1
coffee_rules Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Khota said: After they sensed the outrage they dropped the FIR. If there was no pushback they would have gone ahead. Just because other govt. did does not make it right to arrest journalists. They are the true keepers of freedom. So yeah..you are privy to all the happenings in the government. what is the concern again that this Govt is stifling dissent?
coffee_rules Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Khota said: Some of us were critical then and are critical now. It is about India and its citizens, not about these political parties. Ok, good. Not able to convince you, keep hyperventilating for 8 more years
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: So yeah..you are privy to all the happenings in the government. what is the concern again that this Govt is stifling dissent? It is the paranoid mindset that a young girl is threat to BJP.
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Ok, good. Not able to convince you, keep hyperventilating for 8 more years I am at baseline. It is the country I am concerned about. Under_Score 1
coffee_rules Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, Khota said: It is the paranoid mindset that a young girl is threat to BJP. Think beyond BJP for once
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 38 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Think beyond BJP for once I have a very open mind. I have been liberal, conservative and at times progressive. It depends on the issue. Irrespective of my leaning I have zero tolerance for journalists getting arrested. Tomorrow you might be on the other side. You should join all of us on this forum and condemn the attack on free press.
PunterLog Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Vilander said: Thats cause india a free society is not scared of dissent, opinion and dissent are integral part of a a democracy. Is spreading fake news about CAA and NRC i.e citizenship of Indian Muslims will be taken away called dissent? Is spreading fake news about farm laws i.e lands will be taken away and MSP has been removed also called dissent? There's a difference between dissent and anarchy and what opposition parties are doing isn't dissent.
PunterLog Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Khota said: It is the paranoid mindset that a young girl is threat to BJP. What if the young girl has contacts with Khalistanis and hires lawyers who charge 6-7 Lakhs per 1 session to argue her case? The issue isn't Disha, she's just the puppet. You are foolish if you think bigger forces aren't involved.
Vilander Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, PunterLog said: Is spreading fake news about CAA and NRC i.e citizenship of Indian Muslims will be taken away called dissent? Is spreading fake news about farm laws i.e lands will be taken away and MSP has been removed also called dissent? There's a difference between dissent and anarchy and what opposition parties are doing isn't dissent. On CAA ind govt needs to put their point of view in global publications influence the narrative. Make the lies apparent. On MSP again ind govt needs to lead the narrative atm its all with the other side. Solution is not to prosecute some random greta thurnberg it only plays into the very peoples hands. Its so dumb. Khota 1
mishra Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Khota said: After they sensed the outrage they dropped the FIR. If there was no pushback they would have gone ahead. Just because other govt. did does not make it right to arrest journalists. They are the true keepers of freedom. But exposing a hidden / under the carpet government document is not same as manufacturing a document to organise riot. Thats very basic difference between Chinese arrest vs Indian arrest. But, Its not possible to have that level of common sense among so called Kejri supporters, who most likely are propogatimg their own religious bias then actually being Kejri supporters.
mishra Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, Vilander said: On CAA ind govt needs to put their point of view in global publications influence the narrative. Make the lies apparent. On MSP again ind govt needs to lead the narrative atm its all with the other side. Solution is not to prosecute some random greta thurnberg it only plays into the very peoples hands. Its so dumb. I agree with your basic idea of post. But GoI probably knows more than you and me who is behind Greta or Disha and is it worth countering it in international outlets some of whom are doing what their masters or national interest is. Do you think RT will say same thing as bbc or cgtn will say same thing as cgtn on issues which have international implications for its country.
ravishingravi Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 So, with a caveat that there might be some info which I don’t have. I don’t believe she should have been arrested. Mocked and ridiculed. But like I said, I don’t know the evidence. And the links to khalistani violence at Red Fort.
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 6 hours ago, PunterLog said: What if the young girl has contacts with Khalistanis and hires lawyers who charge 6-7 Lakhs per 1 session to argue her case? The issue isn't Disha, she's just the puppet. You are foolish if you think bigger forces aren't involved. People all over the world have sympathy for farmers and especially in west. They have seen small farmer disappear. Greta thing is just social activism and nothing more in support of farmers. Under_Score 1
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 5 hours ago, mishra said: But exposing a hidden / under the carpet government document is not same as manufacturing a document to organise riot. Thats very basic difference between Chinese arrest vs Indian arrest. But, Its not possible to have that level of common sense among so called Kejri supporters, who most likely are propogatimg their own religious bias then actually being Kejri supporters. Hidden bias is the story they are selling. Let us not compare India and China. China has zero tolerance towards free press and India is milles ahead. The problem is that some of us fear that India is retreating. Under_Score 1
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 5 hours ago, mishra said: I agree with your basic idea of post. But GoI probably knows more than you and me who is behind Greta or Disha and is it worth countering it in international outlets some of whom are doing what their masters or national interest is. Do you think RT will say same thing as bbc or cgtn will say same thing as cgtn on issues which have international implications for its country. While thay are checking this can they also check who is behind tandulkar and Akshays tweet coming atthe same time. The nutjob Rangna does not help BJP either. Under_Score 1
Clarke Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 Meh, why bring CCP if BJP govt was the original target. Just say what one needs to say, it can be debated.
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