sandeep Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/china-detains-three-bloggers-for-insulting-pla-soldiers-who-died-in-galwan-valley-clash/article33895277.ece The reporter in question has 2.5 million followers on Weibo, because he has reported bravely on corruption in the past. Before we get the ejaculations of some of the overly excitable uber-bhakts on this forum - an important point to be made here is that this is the outcome if you allow government and bureaucrats to abuse power and fabricate legal 'cases' on dissent and views that you disagree with. Its a slippery slope and I do not want to see India even begin to slide down on it. MechEng, Under_Score, Stan AF and 1 other 1 1 2
PunterLog Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 More info on this incident and what they posted Don't worry, India will never fall that low. In India you can mockingly call the PM chaiwala, ask proofs for Air Strikes, falsely say that India lost area to China, spread false news about CAA, NRC, farm laws etc without any fear and still stay free Laaloo, construction430 and coffee_rules 3
coffee_rules Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, sandeep said: https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/china-detains-three-bloggers-for-insulting-pla-soldiers-who-died-in-galwan-valley-clash/article33895277.ece The reporter in question has 2.5 million followers on Weibo, because he has reported bravely on corruption in the past. Before we get the ejaculations of some of the overly excitable uber-bhakts on this forum - an important point to be made here is that this is the outcome if you allow government and bureaucrats to abuse power and fabricate legal 'cases' on dissent and views that you disagree with. Its a slippery slope and I do not want to see India even begin to slide down on it. If it is a slant reference to Disha Ravi or Delhi rioters or Naxal sympathizers, show me what was fabricated? Ad hominem attacks and China comparisons won’t fly. China has no independent judiciary , whatever India has corrupt or not, there is an independent judiciary that sometimes opposes the government. So don’t worry about turning to China Edited February 21, 2021 by coffee_rules
Jimmy Cliff Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 Time for Ajai Shukla to step up and save the day for CCP . sandeep 1
sandeep Posted February 21, 2021 Author Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: If it is a slant reference to Disha Ravi or Delhi rioters or Naxal sympathizers, show me what was fabricated? Ad hominem attacks and China comparisons won’t fly. China has no independent judiciary , whatever India has corrupt or not, there is an independent judiciary that sometimes opposes the government. So don’t worry about turning to China India's "independent" judiciary hasn't exactly covered itself in glory. Don't get defensive Coffee bhai - you know my motivations - I'm no commie or lefty pseudo-woke. And I genuinely believe there is cause for concern in some of the things that are happening. Under_Score, Khota, coffee_rules and 1 other 4
coffee_rules Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, sandeep said: India's "independent" judiciary hasn't exactly covered itself in glory. Don't get defensive Coffee bhai - you know my motivations - I'm no commie or lefty pseudo-woke. And I genuinely believe there is cause for concern in some of the things that are happening. I don’t think everything is perfect under BJP either. But at the same time not all is lost like we hear from likes of some opposition buddhijeevis sandeep and diga 1 1
Khota Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 BJP is muffling dissent. Folks on this forum think it is OK but in west they have started questioning if India is democratic anymore. Putting out arrest warrants agains Greta does not help the matter. Several journalist are in jail and if universities open up BJP will not like the dissent. Modi is smart and he needs to explain to people that there are limits to the abuse going on. BJP needs to pump the brakes on this crap they are doing. randomGuy, Clarke, Under_Score and 1 other 1 1 2
PunterLog Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Khota said: BJP is muffling dissent. Folks on this forum think it is OK but in west they have started questioning if India is democratic anymore. Putting out arrest warrants agains Greta does not help the matter. Several journalist are in jail and if universities open up BJP will not like the dissent. Modi is smart and he needs to explain to people that there are limits to the abuse going on. BJP needs to pump the brakes on this crap they are doing. It isn't. Do you think joining hands with separatist movements and deliberately trying to spread false news is dissent? That's sedition. Universities where useless Arts & Humanities students study will show dissent, students who do actual work i.e STEM won't have any dissent. sandeep 1
Khota Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, PunterLog said: It isn't. Do you think joining hands with separatist movements and deliberately trying to spread false news is dissent? That's sedition. Universities where useless Arts & Humanities students study will show dissent, students who do actual work i.e STEM won't have any dissent. BJP gets to define who is doing what in their kangaroo courts. Their dictatorial actions will have consequenses and that day of reckoning is near not far. And I feel offended by you demeaning Arts and Humanities because I am a student of that. STEM engineers in India cannot even make a rifle for the army. So much for STEM, PSU and DRDO. Atleat farmers are net exporters and not leeches like babus who getto decide their future. randomGuy, construction430, Clarke and 1 other 1 3
PunterLog Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Khota said: BJP gets to define who is doing what in their kangaroo courts. Their dictatorial actions will have consequenses and that day of reckoning is near not far. And I feel offended by you demeaning Arts and Humanities because I am a student of that. STEM engineers in India cannot even make a rifle for the army. So much for STEM, PSU and DRDO. Atleat farmers are net exporters and not leeches like babus who getto decide their future. The ones who can migrate overseas thanks to the Socialist shithole this country is and the Bureaucrats who run this country. Kick the leeches in the public sector and privatize everything and our best STEM people will stop migrating overseas and start working for the country. Khota 1
Khota Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, PunterLog said: The ones who can migrate overseas thanks to the Socialist shithole this country is and the Bureaucrats who run this country. Kick the leeches in the public sector and privatize everything and our best STEM people will stop migrating overseas and start working for the country. I am surprised but I agree with you ocassionally. That does not mean we will not argue. PunterLog and Under_Score 2
PunterLog Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Khota said: I am surprised but I agree with you ocassionally. That does not mean we will not argue. Of course! I'm more than happy to hear different opinions on various topics. Nobody can be right on every topic so entertaining various opinions is extremely important. It's a huge problem when people stop listening to the other side and become extremely tribalistic. sandeep, Khota and Laaloo 1 1 1
Mariyam Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: If it is a slant reference to Disha Ravi or Delhi rioters or Naxal sympathizers, show me what was fabricated? Ad hominem attacks and China comparisons won’t fly. China has no independent judiciary , whatever India has corrupt or not, there is an independent judiciary that sometimes opposes the government. So don’t worry about turning to China I see what you did there. That's racist. I kid coffee_rules, sandeep and Under_Score 3
Vilander Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 6 hours ago, PunterLog said: More info on this incident and what they posted Don't worry, India will never fall that low. In India you can mockingly call the PM chaiwala, ask proofs for Air Strikes, falsely say that India lost area to China, spread false news about CAA, NRC, farm laws etc without any fear and still stay free Thats cause india a free society is not scared of dissent, opinion and dissent are integral part of a a democracy. Khota 1
Vilander Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Khota said: BJP is muffling dissent. Folks on this forum think it is OK but in west they have started questioning if India is democratic anymore. Putting out arrest warrants agains Greta does not help the matter. Several journalist are in jail and if universities open up BJP will not like the dissent. Modi is smart and he needs to explain to people that there are limits to the abuse going on. BJP needs to pump the brakes on this crap they are doing. Its embarrassing seeing a state like India going to the level of paid left shils and issuing arrest warrants. Khota and Under_Score 2
Vilander Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 3 hours ago, sandeep said: India's "independent" judiciary hasn't exactly covered itself in glory. Don't get defensive Coffee bhai - you know my motivations - I'm no commie or lefty pseudo-woke. And I genuinely believe there is cause for concern in some of the things that are happening. You don't have to a left to center to see it even genuine connservative right to center individuals can see the crap thats happening. Its ridiculous that bjp has so many trigger happy followers who look at any question on their approach as a left extreme position, its sad to see the country go to this. Khota 1
coffee_rules Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Mariyam said: I see what you did there. That's racist. I kid never thought about it. Good catch. All I can say is pun not intended.
coffee_rules Posted February 21, 2021 Posted February 21, 2021 Let’s talk specifics, no diatribes or platitudes . How is BJP stifling dissent and what is the concern?
Khota Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Let’s talk specifics, no diatribes or platitudes . How is BJP stifling dissent and what is the concern? Income tax raids against your perceived opponents. Journalist in jail. Arrest warrant against Greta. And on and on. Under_Score 1
coffee_rules Posted February 22, 2021 Posted February 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Khota said: Income tax raids against your perceived opponents. Journalist in jail. Arrest warrant against Greta. And on and on. Go look there is no FIR by DP on Greta. It is about the toolkit and Disha and others are being interrogated. IT raids and journalists arrests are nothing that other governments like UPA didn’t do. BJP is not sacrosanct To be cocerned about.
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