3rd Test - India vs England, Pink Test - D/N - *WTC Knockout Encounter*

[putrevus]

Would Shahbaz Nadeem have the same effect as Axar. It is very much like Ohja vs Panessar. Panessar would fire the same delivery over and over again.I don't think Cook or KP although were brilliant  in 2012 would have succeeded if Jadeja or guy liek Axar played in that series., Ohja and Ashwin did not have the pace to hurry them. Ashwin needs Jadeja or Axar to compliment him.

[Jay]

3 hours ago, New guy said:

Imagine thinking wanting a test match to last more than 5 sessions is just to be appreciated. Grown adults watch sports for entertainment, not for some stupid sense of victory or some random scoreline. The Aus series was so entertaining because it was hard fought, not because we blindly got 2-1. Sports is for entertainment, not some flag waving and fake patriotism 

 

Some really low IQ, jignostic posts on this forum recently, this is what happens when school is out because of COVID

Don't watch then? No one is stopping you. Context matters. India are missing 3 of their best players and add Mayank too because he is a good player of spin. 

 

India did what they had to do to 'win'. 

 

If India had to lose some degenerate so called 'fans' in  the name of entertainment then so be it. Goodbye. 

 

The Indian team keeps rolling. 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2021 by Jay

[SRT100]

10 hours ago, putrevus said:

If Axar played first test India would not have lost that test. He bowling is made for Indian pitches .Kudos to him and he is the third spinner for Indian pitches once Jadeja is back. 

No.

 

The toss was the most crucial aspect of the first test. The pitch deteriorated rapidly after Day 2.

[New guy]

9 hours ago, putrevus said:

Very true, but is it possible to create a pitch where spinners are able to dominate and making it last for five days. It is not that easy to get those tracks. Once India had all the injuries and lost first test did they have any other options. Australian series is once in 100 years event. You cannot base anything on it.

 

I can gurantee you if same Indian team turns up there for next 99 times on that Gabba wicket, Australians will win 99 times.

In my opinion, most of the collapse here was because of the pink ball which was gaining pace of the wicket. Match would have lasted at least day 4 if it was a red ball. The batsmen missing straight ones (from both sides) was omnious 

[New guy]

6 hours ago, Jay said:

Don't watch then? No one is stopping you. Context matters. India are missing 3 of their best players and add Mayank too because he is a good player of spin. 

 

India did what they had to do to 'win'. 

 

If India had to lose some degenerate so called 'fans' in  the name of entertainment then so be it. Goodbye. 

 

The Indian team keeps rolling. 

 

 

Why should I stop watching and why should jignostic people decide what is good? 

 

India can win on  any pitch unlike what the cowards pretending to be fans here claim. We dominated at home for 5+ years with sporty pitches

 

In the 90s we prepared such pitches and our pace bowlers languished and we never developed pacers till late 2000s. You want us to go back to those ways. Imagine bowlers like Siraj playing on these pitches 

 

This was the shortest match since world War 2 and instead of praising the players entire world is talking about the pitch. 

[Jay]

9 minutes ago, New guy said:

Why should I stop watching and why should jignostic people decide what is good? 

 

India can win on  any pitch unlike what the cowards pretending to be fans here claim. We dominated at home for 5+ years with sporty pitches

 

In the 90s we prepared such pitches and our pace bowlers languished and we never developed pacers till late 2000s. You want us to go back to those ways. Imagine bowlers like Siraj playing on these pitches 

 

This was the shortest match since world War 2 and instead of praising the players entire world is talking about the pitch. 

Watch or don't watch, no one gives a rat's butt about it. Indian team don't care about some fickle sychophant fans. They have plenty of other intelligent fans. 

 

I am sure India can win even on sporting tracks. It was surprising to see the pitch being this much of rank Turner. However they probably din't want to risk it with 3 or 4 of our best players being injured. 

 

India probably would have thrashed them regardless but they lost the 1st so I guess they din't want to risk it. 

Edited February 26, 2021 by Jay

[New guy]

Just now, Jay said:

Watch or don't watch, no one gives a rat's butt about it. Indian team don't care about some fickle sychophant fans. They have plenty of other intelligent fans. 

 

I am sure India can win even on sporting tracks. It was surprising to see the pitch being this much of rank Turner. However they probably din't want to risk it with 3 or 4 of our best players being injured. 

Yea they  have  plenty of short sighted fools who would rather see their fast bowling legacy destroyed. Don't pretend jignostic people like you represent indian fans, we have come a long way from the 80s and 90s when we behaved like nationalistic Bangladesh fans do today. Indian fans today are mature and don't define their lives by victories and defeats, they have way more success in life and career and country going on 

 

As I said in my other post, this is going to set our fast bowling back 5 to 10 years. Bowlers like siraj developed on sporting pitches. Ishant,  Yadav, shami average less than 25 in last 5+ years and had their second coming on sporting pitches 

 

We are going back to Dhoni era where bumrah and ishant are being destroyed this series and no one will want to be a fast bowler again. 

[Jay]

16 minutes ago, New guy said:

Yea they  have  plenty of short sighted fools who would rather see their fast bowling legacy destroyed. Don't pretend jignostic people like you represent indian fans, we have come a long way from the 80s and 90s when we behaved like nationalistic Bangladesh fans do today. Indian fans today are mature and don't define their lives by victories and defeats, they have way more success in life and career and country going on 

 

As I said in my other post, this is going to set our fast bowling back 5 to 10 years. Bowlers like siraj developed on sporting pitches. Ishant,  Yadav, shami average less than 25 in last 5+ years and had their second coming on sporting pitches 

 

We are going back to Dhoni era where bumrah and ishant are being destroyed this series and no one will want to be a fast bowler again. 

I absolutely would be furious if our fast bowling curlture gets destroyed. I totally understand what you are saying. I believe it's a one off. Also pink ball din't help. 

 

Just chill man. We will see some sporting tracks soon. Had Siraj and bumrah operated together rather than Ishant who is a Sena specialist, India would have wreaked havoc as they complement each other. 

 

I will be very upset if we prepare such tracks in the future because it undermines our fast bowling which is the best in the world. 

 

Remember bumrah hasn't played in India for a long time and neither has Siraj. Hence India took the conservative approach. 

 

Had Shami umesh been there, I guarantee you we would have seen spring venues. 

Edited February 26, 2021 by Jay

[Lone Wolf]

12 minutes ago, New guy said:

Yea they  have  plenty of short sighted fools who would rather see their fast bowling legacy destroyed. Don't pretend jignostic people like you represent indian fans, we have come a long way from the 80s and 90s when we behaved like nationalistic Bangladesh fans do today. Indian fans today are mature and don't define their lives by victories and defeats, they have way more success in life and career and country going on 

 

As I said in my other post, this is going to set our fast bowling back 5 to 10 years. Bowlers like siraj developed on sporting pitches. Ishant,  Yadav, shami average less than 25 in last 5+ years and had their second coming on sporting pitches 

 

We are going back to Dhoni era where bumrah and ishant are being destroyed this series and no one will want to be a fast bowler again. 

One series doesn't define how our fast bowlers will suddenly become extinct in future.   Don't need to become too negative. 

We will be back to sporty tracks in our next home series as batsman also need to boost their numbers once kiwis come. 

No need of wrist slitting 

[ShoonyaSifar]

11 hours ago, putrevus said:

Very true, but is it possible to create a pitch where spinners are able to dominate and making it last for five days. It is not that easy to get those tracks. Once India had all the injuries and lost first test did they have any other options. Australian series is once in 100 years event. You cannot base anything on it.

 

I can gurantee you if same Indian team turns up there for next 99 times on that Gabba wicket, Australians will win 99 times.

 

2001 Eden test is also once in a 1000 years event but that was a major turning point in our cricket history. Likewise Aus series could have been that major turning point again but with a shortsighted bunch of pussies in the TM, who have ZERO confidence in their own team's ability to win on proper spinning tracks, all those gains have been frittered away.

 

Why even pretend to play on such play pitches, better to have a bowl out, our accurate spinners will win anyday over England. Let this be a proper lottery. Saves everyone's time and gives the TM and the 'patriotic fans' the wins and a place in the WTC final.

Edited February 26, 2021 by ShoonyaSifar

[Bundaberg]

India v England | 3rd Test, Day 2 | HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

 

[Suhaan]

Last test wasn't a rank turner one India scored 600+ in two innings and it was England who were bamboozled by the the so called threat,it was all part psyops by Indian party which worked here as well ,Pink ball just skidded through people's defences

Pink ball fairly has a novelty factor to which batsmen will come to the terms the more they play

So plz don't try to brand the pitches as rank turners

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

18 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Last test wasn't a rank turner one India scored 600+ in two innings and it was England who were bamboozled by the the so called threat,it was all part psyops by Indian party which worked here as well ,Pink ball just skidded through people's defences

Pink ball fairly has a novelty factor to which batsmen will come to the terms the more they play

So plz don't try to brand the pitches as rank turners

 

The 2nd test pitch had not been watered for 3 days before the start of the test, every single blade of grass was shaved off, ball started to explode off the pitch from the 2nd over. Ball was turning miles on all days, it was two paced due to dryness and cracks. It was a rank turner. See how Root was getting sharp spin in the last session on day 1. Moeen f****g Ali was bowling like Murali.

 

Because some of our batsmen managed to score runs does not make it a better pitch.

[Lone Wolf]

49 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Last test wasn't a rank turner one India scored 600+ in two innings and it was England who were bamboozled by the the so called threat,it was all part psyops by Indian party which worked here as well ,Pink ball just skidded through people's defences

Pink ball fairly has a novelty factor to which batsmen will come to the terms the more they play

So plz don't try to brand the pitches as rank turners

 

No need to be ashamed of a rank turner..  It was clearly turning from Day 1 in Chennai.  No need to hide it or be ashamed of it.  Let the Poms cry.. 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

The 2nd test pitch had not been watered for 3 days before the start of the test, every single blade of grass was shaved off, ball started to explode off the pitch from the 2nd over. Ball was turning miles on all days, it was two paced due to dryness and cracks. It was a rank turner. See how Root was getting sharp spin in the last session on day 1. Moeen f****g Ali was bowling like Murali.

 

Because some of our batsmen managed to score runs does not make it a better pitch.

I don't want to get into issues with the TM and their baffling decisions

Playing on a turner requires skill same as it is required in seaming,bouncy surfaces,our batsmen face a lot of flak with their gross incompetency against seam, England batsmen are no different,they are too subject to same criticism,

This pitch or series won't make us go back to 80s or 90s

I have criticized both batting sides for their pathetic display of batting,you can't expect India dishing out pure sporty wickets atleast to ENA countries,even if they do ,it will not be more than 35-40%

 

Thing is our batsmen tend to sheep around when they chase a duanting first innings total, perhaps they bank on spinners(with unavailability of first choice pace attack)>pacers>batsmen

 

 

[Stan AF]

Dammit,I'm bored now. No entertainment left for the evening.

[Stan AF]

I don't know about others here, but I'm more looking forward to the 5 T20Is that will happen after the tests. WTC is almost guaranteed now.

[putrevus]

6 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

 
2001 Eden test is also once in a 1000 years event but that was a major turning point in our cricket history. Likewise Aus series could have been that major turning point again but with a shortsighted bunch of pussies in the TM, who have ZERO confidence in their own team's ability to win on proper spinning tracks, all those gains have been frittered away.
 
Why even pretend to play on such play pitches, better to have a bowl out, our accurate spinners will win anyday over England. Let this be a proper lottery. Saves everyone's time and gives the TM and the 'patriotic fans' the wins and a place in the WTC final.

What are those gains exactly from Australian series and how are those frittered away.

If they had lost the test while serving so called sportive pitches whiners like you would have eaten the team alive. You guys would be going on and on how TM ruined everyone and everything like you did they lost a bloody meaningless bilateral series in Australia before that series.

2001 is proof how putrid that team was, that expectations were so low for Indian team at home also. This team is expected to win everything everywhere that is the burden they are carrying on their shoulders.

It does not matter how many injuries they have, this team is still expected to win.

You were first to whine when they lost first test forgetting the injuries to key players.


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Edited February 26, 2021 by putrevus

[addicted4444]

I don’t know if a lot of people on this forum are just too young, but people complaining about the pitch are not complaining about the fact that it was a turner. 
 

India used to be an extremely difficult place to play in the 90s and 2000s thanks to the turning pitches but matches didn’t end in 2 days. 
 

That’s what people are hoping for. Turning pitches thst give our team an edge at hone are great. But it’s possible, as India did in the 90s and 2000s, to create such favorable pitches that do not lead to matches being over in 2-3 days. 

[Trichromatic]

29 minutes ago, addicted4444 said:

I don’t know if a lot of people on this forum are just too young, but people complaining about the pitch are not complaining about the fact that it was a turner. 
 

India used to be an extremely difficult place to play in the 90s and 2000s thanks to the turning pitches but matches didn’t end in 2 days. 
 

That’s what people are hoping for. Turning pitches thst give our team an edge at hone are great. But it’s possible, as India did in the 90s and 2000s, to create such favorable pitches that do not lead to matches being over in 2-3 days. 

 

Pitch was primary reason for match getting over in 2 days.

 

Additional factors that contributed:

 

1. Pink ball

2. England having only 1 world class batsman - Joe Root. Indian batsmen failed in 1 inning.

3. Quality of Indian spinners is at it's peak.