Test Matches Head to Head ( 2001 -2021 ) : England is the only team to have a better H2H record against India ( 16W, 14L)

[rangeelaraja]

After this likely victory by India, England would still be ahead with 16W, 15L.

 

Need to set this record straight starting from the summer in England this year.

 

Other than England, overall - we have stuffed every team, including Australia - thanks to our back to back wins in their own soil.

 

Edited March 5, 2021 by rangeelaraja

[Jay]

That's cause they played 4 home series. We only played 3 including this one. 

[Vijy]

Just now, Jay said:

That's cause they played 4 home series. We only played 3 including this one. 

And I assume their home series were longer

[rangeelaraja]

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

That's cause they played 4 home series. We only played 3 including this one. 

 

 

In terms of the number of matches - 21 have been played at home and away, so no excuses for having an inferior W/L record - because the number home/away matching are even.

[Jay]

36 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

In terms of the number of matches - 21 have been played at home and away, so no excuses for having an inferior W/L record - because the number home/away matching are even.

ITS THE 2012 LOSS that hurt us. al the old geriatric, past prime, useless sooperstars wanted a last hurrah send off. cost us. 

[Serpico]

7 hours ago, Jay said:

That's cause they played 4 home series. We only played 3 including this one. 

But we played home series in 2001, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2016 and this one

[Jay]

13 minutes ago, Serpico said:

But we played home series in 2001, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2016 and this one

Oh I thought he meant just post 2010. Sorry. 

[Forward Defence]

In the two series in 2011 and 2012 the record reads Eng 6 Ind 1. We had a out of form batting line up barring Dravid and Pujara. Zaheer went missing after the first session in the Eng series and most importantly Eng had a great side at their prime with all facets covered. Cook, Strauss, Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Prior is a formidable batting line up. Add to that Anderson, Broad as two frontline pacers with Finn, Bresnan and Tremlett as good back ups and Swann and Panesar in the spin department.

[chewy]

They way Anderson is still getting it to swing late, India is going to be 2 down every innings in first 5 overs. 

 

Cant see India scoring 250 plus per innings in England against Anderson, Broad, Stokes and Archer plus Curran.

 

Indian bowlers and later order batting will need bring their A+ game every match.

 

Or else England winning series easy.

[R!TTER]

Well here's the thing, Eng's won 10 tosses more & won just 1 more game! I'm of course assuming we win this one -

 

Primary team India

Opposition team England

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2000

Toss result lost the toss

Totals in terms of batting team

Ordered by matches won (descending)

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Overall figures

Team	Span	Mat	Won	Lost	Tied	Draw	W/L	Ave	RPO	Inns	HS	LS
India	2001-2021	26	8	10	0	7	0.8	31.93	3.14	46	759	94

Edited March 6, 2021 by R!TTER

[Gollum]

10 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Well here's the thing, Eng's won 10 tosses more & won just 1 more game! I'm of course assuming we win this one -

 

Primary team India

Opposition team England

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2000

Toss result lost the toss

Totals in terms of batting team

Ordered by matches won (descending)

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Team	Span	Mat	Won	Lost	Tied	Draw	W/L	Ave	RPO	Inns	HS	LS
India	2001-2021	26	8	10	0	7	0.8	31.93	3.14	46	759	94

Lost 26/42 tosses....huge huge factor. Also we weren't ruthless enough esp at home in the 2000s when they were at their weakest. 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, chewy said:

They way Anderson is still getting it to swing late, India is going to be 2 down every innings in first 5 overs. 

 

Cant see India scoring 250 plus per innings in England against Anderson, Broad, Stokes and Archer plus Curran.

 

Indian bowlers and later order batting will need bring their A+ game every match.

 

Or else England winning series easy.

I think we can score 250+ consistently over there if we manage to kick out geriatric & finished versions of players. 

Rohit

Sundar (left right opening combo) 

Gill

Lolli 

Vihari/Rahane

Pant

Jaddu

Ashwin

Shardul/Shami 

Siraj

Bumrah

 

We can set the record straight if we play a XI that will perform..  I don't  see big tons coming but I'll take each & every contribution to somehow score 275+ runs throughout. 

[chewy]

Just now, Lone Wolf said:

I think we can score 250+ consistently over there if we manage to kick out geriatric & finished versions of players. 

Rohit

Sundar (left right opening combo) 

Gill

Lolli 

Vihari/Rahane

Pant

Jaddu

Ashwin

Shardul/Shami 

Siraj

Bumrah

 

We can set the record straight if we play a XI that will perform..  I don't  see big tons coming but I'll take each & every contribution to somehow score 275+ runs throughout. 

Rohit in England  good luck, a decade of international cricket and he still cant play swing, rather go in with Shaw/Rahul/Mayank to infuse new blood and give them opportunities

[Lone Wolf]

4 minutes ago, chewy said:

Rohit in England  good luck, a decade of international cricket and he still cant play swing, rather go in with Shaw/Rahul/Mayank to infuse new blood and give them opportunities

I know I myself not a big fan but atm he is the best option..  He has proved everyone wrong including me.  I'll take 20-30 runs from him there .  Shaw should be with India A in case required. 

Rohit is a short term fix but if it helps us in Eng & SA this year then so be it. 

[R!TTER]

11 minutes ago, chewy said:

good luck, a decade of international cricket and he still cant play swing,

Among the 20 potential maharathis touring Eng, who do you see outscoring him on current form? Don't say Brat because he won't!

[chewy]

1 hour ago, R!TTER said:

Among the 20 potential maharathis touring Eng, who do you see outscoring him on current form? Don't say Brat because he won't!

He has been given a rope of 10 years but still cant play swing or seam movement. BCCI and various lobbies tried to fit him in every position from 1 to 6, hide him from new ball, therefore the least someone deserves is 1 yeat shot at Test opener..,besides Rohit is fat and unfit and probably wont last another year of international cricket.

 

 

5 Tests in England, start of new WTC cycle, time to give others opportunity for 1-2 years if not 10 years!, one or two of these guys Rahul / Mayank / Shaw / Padikkal / Panchal / Easwaran / Sundar deserves 2-3 series as opener with full backing

[chewy]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

I know I myself not a big fan but atm he is the best option..  He has proved everyone wrong including me.  I'll take 20-30 runs from him there .  Shaw should be with India A in case required. 

Rohit is a short term fix but if it helps us in Eng & SA this year then so be it. 

Come on man 20-30 runs!!!

That's not the role.of opener, opener's prime requirement especially in places like Eng / SA / NZ is to see out first 20 overs.

 

And England series is start of new WTC, therefore only right for next line of guys given backing for at least 1 - 2 years, not asking for 10 years of backing given to Rohit since his debut. 

 

By the time India play SA, I hope to see new faces at 1,2,3 (Gill) and 5 (Vihari).