Which ICC Trophy disappointment hurt most since 2013?

[deepdynamo]

On 10/7/2022 at 12:07 PM, nitinbwj said:

Not with this bowling attack and atrocious fielding

 With almost zero expectation this time, can India surprise everybody ?

 

I will take a fluke...just huffed puffed to semis and 2 good days...

 

Fingers crossed...

[vvvslaxman]

This time guaranteed lol 100% no chance given t he composition, given the conditions, given the oppositions. Let us move on.

[coffee_rules]

2022

[Norman]

4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

This time guaranteed lol 100% no chance given t he composition, given the conditions, given the oppositions. Let us move on.

 

Conditions are actually in favor of our playing style. Our batters enjoy playing pace and bounce and our spinners will love bowling on these big grounds. 

 

Only place we got fukked up is Bumrah and Jaddu's injury and the collective failure of selectors/TM in shaping a decent fast bowling attack for Australian conditions in the former's absence. Bumrah, Arshdeep and Siraj/Shami could still have been a top class attack. 

[vvvslaxman]

43 minutes ago, Norman said:

 

Conditions are actually in favor of our playing style. Our batters enjoy playing pace and bounce and our spinners will love bowling on these big grounds. 

 

Only place we got fukked up is Bumrah and Jaddu's injury and the collective failure of selectors/TM in shaping a decent fast bowling attack for Australian conditions in the former's absence. Bumrah, Arshdeep and Siraj/Shami could still have been a top class attack. 

 

This is still a trundler attack. Will struggle to extract bounce.  Death over bowling is hopeless. In an effort to put up a huge total we will collapse at some point. India's only hope is swinging conditions.

[deepdynamo]

Another phanity and humiliation in yet another ICC trophy.

The wait continues since 2013.

First post updated.

 

[Norman]

To be honest, this didn't even hurt that much. Had extremely low expectations from our side and I'm just happy that we won against poyzz at the MCG in front of 90k people. 

 

Nowhere near the hurt caused by the 2019 semifinal Or CT final choke. 

[Bigg Brother]

This doesn't hurt even a bit..It was totally expected after Asia Cup debacle. 

[Frustrated]

Good.   Atleast our next Sunday won't be wasted.  Kaam pe lag jao sab....

[Vickydev]

2019 will not be surpassed. We've never had a more inform and potent bowling attack like that. What a waste it was let down by our inept batting

[R!TTER]

2 minutes ago, Vickydev said:

We've never had a more inform and potent bowling attack like that.

WTH are you talking about? Our bowlers let us down equally in the finals especially the malnourishment duo! These guys are also smashed to bits against Eng on a flatbed.

[Frustrated]

5 minutes ago, Vickydev said:

2019 will not be surpassed. We've never had a more inform and potent bowling attack like that. What a waste it was let down by our inept batting

Not really.   2019 WC was the one in which our overhyped pace bowling attack allowed Eng to make 340 in group stage game.  In fact, at one stage they were cruising at 180/0 in 23 overs and were on course to reach 400+.  After that, luckily Ind managed to pull things back a bit.  Even in the SF,  we allowed Nz to reach 245 which was a decent score on that wicket. (Despite the overnight rain and moisture on that surface, our pace bowlers could not get early wickets)   

[Vickydev]

6 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

WTH are you talking about? Our bowlers let us down equally in the finals especially the malnourishment duo! These guys are also smashed to bits against Eng on a flatbed.

It was more about our form throughout rather that one game. Bhuvi shouldn't have played the semis, but he still picked 3 wickets and the bowling attack outside of him was very good in the Championship. We went with an extended batting till #8 for the semifinal dropping Kuldeep so yes it was more on the batting. A 230 something score should be achievable

 

And a batting shootout loss to England in the GS is nothing to be ashamed off. 

[Vickydev]

4 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Not really.   2019 WC was the one in which our overhyped pace bowling attack allowed Eng to make 340 in group stage game.  In fact, at one stage they were cruising at 180/0 in 23 overs and were on course to reach 400+.  After that, luckily Ind managed to pull things back a bit.  Even in the SF,  we allowed Nz to reach 245 which was a decent score on that wicket. (Despite the overnight rain and moisture on that surface, our pace bowlers could not get early wickets)   

We went with just 3 outright bowlers in the semifinal, Hardik and Jadeja had to play as main bowlers. Shami and Kuldeep were not picked. A target of 240 was out of reach for our batters? All 8 of them? 

[R!TTER]

2 minutes ago, Vickydev said:

Bhuvi shouldn't have played the semis, but he still picked 3 wickets and the bowling attack outside of him was very good in the Championship.

He picked up cheap wickets at the death when NZ posted at least a par score on that pitch, he should've picked at least a wicket or two at the front. Our bowling in that WC was horrendous in the first 10 overs, in fact our batters bailed us out vs Oz, Pak & arguably SA as well.

 

3 minutes ago, Vickydev said:

We went with an extended batting till #8 for the semifinal dropping Kuldeep so yes it was more on the batting.

We really should've picked at least one if not both KJ & Vijay for the SF instead of DK & that MFer Chahal. If you'd ask me the loss can be apportioned to 60/40 - with batters being more responsible for the loss.

[Frustrated]

1 minute ago, Vickydev said:

We went with just 3 outright bowlers in the semifinal, Hardik and Jadeja had to play as main bowlers. Shami and Kuldeep were not picked. A target of 240 was out of reach for our batters? All 8 of them? 

Shami and Kuldeep were not picked obviously.  As they were absolutely rubbish in the previous game against Eng and cost us that game.  The result won't hv been any different had they played in SF.  Shami is a test bowler who has had a terrible LOI record (both odi and t20).  God knows why he was picked in this WC.     Well, 240 could hv been chased if one of our top order chokers had stayed little longer.  Not defending the batsmen either.   

[nevada]

This one hurt the least for obvious reasons. Selectors and TM have made it clear that our goal is not to win but to follow "process" and hope to get lucky enough to somehow reach the business end of the tournament. The lower(lowest, infact) the expectations, the lower is the disappointment!

[R!TTER]

7 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Shami and Kuldeep were not picked obviously.  As they were absolutely rubbish in the previous game against Eng and cost us that game.  The result won't hv been any different had they played in SF.  Shami is a test bowler who has had a terrible LOI record (both odi and t20).  God knows why he was picked in this WC.     Well, 240 could hv been chased if one of our top order chokers had stayed little longer.  Not defending the batsmen either.   

Shami was better than Bhukhe anywhere they play, Kuldeep also did better than Chahal in the Eng game - no to mention they weren't dropped immediately after!

[Vickydev]

4 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

He picked up cheap wickets at the death when NZ posted at least a par score on that pitch, he should've picked at least a wicket or two at the front. Our bowling in that WC was horrendous in the first 10 overs, in fact our batters bailed us out vs Oz, Pak & arguably SA

Almost everyone conceded 300+ scores in the games. We had games where teams down 4 or 5 early on were getting close to 300. Bangladesh scored 300+ against SA, Australia and WI and almost scored that against us and England. England themselves had about 5 or 6 in 8 GS matches. Pakistan conceded about 3 times It was a ridiculous tournament for high scoring. 

 

So a few games where the first 10 didn't lead to wickets wasn't that concerning when the spinners/AR were also contributing in the middle overs. 

[Vickydev]

10 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Shami and Kuldeep were not picked obviously.  As they were absolutely rubbish in the previous game against Eng and cost us that game.  The result won't hv been any different had they played in SF.  Shami is a test bowler who has had a terrible LOI record (both odi and t20).  God knows why he was picked in this WC.     Well, 240 could hv been chased if one of our top order chokers had stayed little longer.  Not defending the batsmen either.   

Shami was far from ideal but he was still picking wickets. He was the only one penetrative, his double strike in the middle overs was what brought us back briefly. Even then at the 40 over mark of our chase we were par with England. Those wickets were gems for batting

 

In the semis we picked an extra batter to add depth to the batting that basically ended after #5.