vvvslaxman Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: Ivermectin safety is already well established. Rare side effects happen with every drug. You think vaccines are 100% safe? Many people have died after taking vaccines due to side effects. There are a lot of medicines that are safe :) We can't try all of them. Ivermectin has been used for specific purposes. Lab test has exhibited some anti viral property. Caveat is only in large doses. The so called randomized study is unreliable. Based on that study so many people are making up their own theories about it. Very large group of people recovered just with tylenol (paraceomol) without doing anything. I don't discourage people taking it. The thing that bothers me is using this ivermectin fiction to attack vaccination. These kind of unproven conspiracy theories do a lot of damage. https://fullfact.org/health/ivermectin-covid-treatment/ Edited May 25, 2021 by vvvslaxman
rkt.india Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: There are a lot of medicines that are safe :) We can't try all of them. Ivermectin has been used for specific purposes. Lab test has exhibited some anti viral property. Caveat is only in large doses. The so called randomized study is unreliable. Based on that study so many people are making up their own theories about it. Very large group of people recovered just with tylenol (paraceomol) without doing anything. I don't discourage people taking it. The thing that bothers me is using this ivermectin fiction to attack vaccination. These kind of unproven conspiracy theories do a lot of damage. https://fullfact.org/health/ivermectin-covid-treatment/ But Ivermectin has evidently been helpful unlike those many drugs. Medicine is either about evidence based or experience based therapies. As Ivermectin has been safe to use and either evidently or anecdotally has been helpful in Covid, I don't see any harm using it. If it had serious side effects, it would have been a different matter altogether.
rkt.india Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: The thing that bothers me is using this ivermectin fiction to attack vaccination. These kind of unproven conspiracy theories do a lot of damage. https://fullfact.org/health/ivermectin-covid-treatment/ The problem is we have to see how much Ivermectin works. If it is then no use taking vaccines whose safety is not yet established and this is where big pharma comes into play. If people don't take vaccines, their research and investment would go down the drain.
Jimmy Cliff Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 Ivermectin getting too much attention off late. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a hatchet job around the corner.
vvvslaxman Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 8 hours ago, rkt.india said: The problem is we have to see how much Ivermectin works. If it is then no use taking vaccines whose safety is not yet established and this is where big pharma comes into play. If people don't take vaccines, their research and investment would go down the drain. You think the entire world, science community, CDC scientists are in on it against this "magic pill" Ivermectin? They are out there to promote vaccine? I bet Bill gates created this virus with a chip attached to it. Because they want to kill the business of "ivermectin". Brazil extensively used ivermectin from the start. Turns out it is one of the worst country in handling the pandemic. Lord 1
kepler37b Posted May 26, 2021 Author Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) On 5/25/2021 at 1:10 AM, mishra said: Opposition parties, All back 26 May farm stir. Looks like Covid is over in North India. Seriously these mofos. Ann daataas rock!!!! Edited May 26, 2021 by kepler37b mishra and dial_100 2
rkt.india Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: You think the entire world, science community, CDC scientists are in on it against this "magic pill" Ivermectin? They are out there to promote vaccine? I bet Bill gates created this virus with a chip attached to it. Because they want to kill the business of "ivermectin". Brazil extensively used ivermectin from the start. Turns out it is one of the worst country in handling the pandemic. Gates is one of the vaccine investor. He is no saint. beetle 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Gates is one of the vaccine investor. He is no saint. He donated close to 600 million to WHO. All he had to do is not "donating".
rkt.india Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 47 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He donated close to 600 million to WHO. All he had to do is not "donating". He runs WHO. Donating is good for him so that he can control WHO because most of their funding comes from people like Gates and his beliefs are well known to everyone. World Economic forum doing simulation of pandemic, Gates continue to talk about pandemic and then comes the eventual pandemic. WHO tried to create fake pandemic in 2010 as well. beetle and nevada 2
vvvslaxman Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: He runs WHO. Donating is good for him so that he can control WHO because most of their funding comes from people like Gates and his beliefs are well known to everyone. World Economic forum doing simulation of pandemic, Gates continue to talk about pandemic and then comes the eventual pandemic. WHO tried to create fake pandemic in 2010 as well. I am still waiting for the motivation to "control" WHO.
rkt.india Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I am still waiting for the motivation to "control" WHO. He is a vaccine Mafia. Recently, he was also against providing covid 19 vaccine recipies to developing countries bypassing IP laws. If he can control WHO, he can make them do anything that comes in their purview.
vvvslaxman Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He is a vaccine Mafia. Recently, he was also against providing covid 19 vaccine recipies to developing countries bypassing IP laws. If he can control WHO, he can make them do anything that comes in their purview. I know he is a pro-vaccine guy. He believes it so he proposes it. I am sure all of us had vaccine when we were young. We do get our kids vaccinated still. Why is it wrong to be pro-vaccine?
vvvslaxman Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jharkhand-chhattisgarh-big-vaccine-wasters-1-in-3-doses-wasted-centre-2449459 Highest vaccine wasting state award goes to
kepler37b Posted May 27, 2021 Author Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/jharkhand-chhattisgarh-big-vaccine-wasters-1-in-3-doses-wasted-centre-2449459 Highest vaccine wasting state award goes to Vaccine wastage is a popular term used for corruption. The doses are sold to VIP's in black market. I have heard about it in Telangana. What a corruption infested society we are :( mishra 1
kepler37b Posted May 27, 2021 Author Posted May 27, 2021 https://www.rediff.com/news/column/sanjeev-nayyar-producing-vaccines-is-not-like-2-minutes-noodles/20210527.htm Good article on why ramping up vaccine production is SO difficult.
kepler37b Posted May 27, 2021 Author Posted May 27, 2021 Fools are still vaccine hesitant. I have no idea what do speak of these people. Turned out to be worse than Vaccine skeptic fundoos in USA.
ravishingravi Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Fools are still vaccine hesitant. I have no idea what do speak of these people. Turned out to be worse than Vaccine skeptic fundoos in USA. Don’t think this is in India. Here there is excess demand and not enough vaccines.
kepler37b Posted May 27, 2021 Author Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: Don’t think this is in India. Here there is excess demand and not enough vaccines. It's in Kashmir. For those barbarians woman is nothing but a baby factory. So this is pretty much expected. Edited May 27, 2021 by kepler37b
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