Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: SO many red flags, I wouldn't post it or share it unless I want to bring in bad opinion about an authority/admin/religion etc. Who knows if that guy could be an opposition worker, just on purpose wore a Bhagwa color. It is not even viral to go about discussing and cussing people. Ajmal Kasab was wearing a red thread on his wrists and there were plans to give him a Hindu identity. Good that he was caught alive. You don't believe in any thing that is shared on SM. I posted a pic of a Muslim group after Fri Prayers and I was questioned if that pic was verified. I have been cautious of sharing. I am not defending that guy, it is a heinous unpardonable crime, if true. Just pointing out to the holes, if you have more information, you should share, instead of acting like a thriller movie director revealing the secret in the end! https://news.abplive.com/news/india/bjp-surat-leader-tweets-video-of-man-allegedly-feeding-gau-mutra-to-coronavirus-covid-19-patient-deletes-later-1454494 Its BJP General Secretary Kishor Bindal who posted it himself so camera didnt appear magically it was meant to be shown on twitter and later deleted it . If you have correct sources n multiple sources then why fear....i posted it coz i had multiple sources and didnt come across any that proves it fake. One sources can be doubtful thats why multiple checks coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: https://news.abplive.com/news/india/bjp-surat-leader-tweets-video-of-man-allegedly-feeding-gau-mutra-to-coronavirus-covid-19-patient-deletes-later-1454494 Its BJP General Secretary Kishor Bindal who posted it himself so camera didnt appear magically it was meant to be shown on twitter and later deleted it . If you have correct sources n multiple sources then why fear....i posted it coz i had multiple sources and didnt come across any that proves it fake. One sources can be doubtful thats why multiple checks I did a google and saw the ABPLive link. That guy should be put in jail, but I wouldn't say for sure why would a BJP medical staff wear a saffron scarf to go on a viral video also, how do we know if that was cow urine. Why can't somebody from opposition raise a FIR and pursue police action, instead of tweeting it and sharing it on SM? Too much faltu time wasted on a viral video and keep outraging that all over India patients are being fed gau-mutra and laugh about on the jibes. Log mar rahein hain,
vvvslaxman Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Let us stop living in denial. We spend awful lot of energy to protect our "image". I am also not very fond of foreign media trolling India. But in the last one month or so, the things that have happened in India deserve every humiliation.
dial_100 Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 4 hours ago, coffee_rules said: So we believe couple of non-verified accounts. That Guy is being recorded and magically the medical staff (dressed in white) wears a saffron scarf, how original. And we all look at this manufactured spectacle and outrage. It has a few 10s likes and 100 views (half of them from ICF itself) Sharing such rumors have to be banned in ICF and not add panic and falsehood that is already a humanitarian crisis happening You too fell for it.
coffee_rules Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, dial_100 said: You too fell for it. Because it was shared here. I didn't come across it on my Twiiter TL. dial_100 1
coffee_rules Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Let us stop living in denial. We spend awful lot of energy to protect our "image". I am also not very fond of foreign media trolling India. But in the last one month or so, the things that have happened in India deserve every humiliation. The way CNN and other "Liberal" media are covering India in US, it seems like the new TRP news-worthy item of the week, they are literally blaming that Corana has originated from India. A lot don't know about Bharat Biotech and USA blocking India from producing more vaccines. They keep showing half burnt bodies and relishing on death porn mishra 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: I did a google and saw the ABPLive link. That guy should be put in jail, but I wouldn't say for sure why would a BJP medical staff wear a saffron scarf to go on a viral video also, how do we know if that was cow urine. Why can't somebody from opposition raise a FIR and pursue police action, instead of tweeting it and sharing it on SM? Too much faltu time wasted on a viral video and keep outraging that all over India patients are being fed gau-mutra and laugh about on the jibes. Log mar rahein hain, its the history with gobar and cow urine, we had a thread for it....their have been many instance of prescribing such remedy Surely he did to gain some brownie in his party but it backfired so he deleted. My worry is why are these ppl thinking that it ll work coz their have been so many statements like this not just one . Top leadership shud pass a message that these gimmicks is giving a bad name to whole party. If gambhir does good work and this guy does this it will be highlighted coz thats how SM works. SM works on such stories so high time top leadership shud pass on message to these guys coz ultimately whole of them wud be made fun of the burden of proof lies on him now to prove it that it wasnt cow urine
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Because it was shared here. I didn't come across it on my Twiiter TL. TL works differntly....ull see stories of what ppl you follow see or share same with me . People rather then doing whataboutisim shud share stories of both end. I hate it when someone says what about other- well how are you sure that i read other story. Information shud be shared of both sides coz its impossible to keep a track of every story. One of the biggest reason i choose to be active on Chit chat section this time was to share stories which i knw wnt have been. Not blaming anyone but i know how timelines works..we only get feeds from one side so i felts its important top share stories of other side so both sides are covered. Edited May 10, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Let us stop living in denial. We spend awful lot of energy to protect our "image". I am also not very fond of foreign media trolling India. But in the last one month or so, the things that have happened in India deserve every humiliation. This .....exactly this is the point
coffee_rules Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: TL works differntly....ull see stories of what ppl you follow see or share same with me . People rather then doing whataboutisim shud share stories of both end. I hate it when someone says what about other- well how are you sure that i read other story. Information shud be shared of both sides coz its impossible to keep a track of every story. One of the biggest reason i choose to be active on Chit chat section this time was to share stories which i knw wnt have been. Not blaming anyone but i know how timelines works..we only get feeds from one side so i felts its important top share stories of other side so both sides are covered. I like to keep my follow list on most of the “other” side, to do the purvapaksha of their thought process. Surprised I didn’t get it. I don’t follow any of the so-called defenders like Sambit or Sudarshan news etc. In any case, the defence is coming from image saving by BJP as the whole western media is up and funded by Soros to build an image of an India not working and needs a regime change. Ideally, they should stop attacking Kejri and work on better communication with the public mishra 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: The way CNN and other "Liberal" media are covering India in US, it seems like the new TRP news-worthy item of the week, they are literally blaming that Corana has originated from India. A lot don't know about Bharat Biotech and USA blocking India from producing more vaccines. They keep showing half burnt bodies and relishing on death porn CNN covered US News the same way when it was ravaging USA. BJP Is not India. Blaming BJP is not blaming India. All these narratives are spun to "protect" the image. Nobody can deny people are dying. Just check the #bangalore hashtag on twitter. 90% of the hashtags are referring to someone needing oxygen, someone needing ICU bed. Those images are shown to make everyone understand what is going on in India. Didn't India export millions of vaccines when India needed them? I understand a country with huge population struggling with first wave. But there is no excuse for not being in better position to handle the second wave. Being f***ing total silent is the only thing we get from the leadership. Healthy people that i know have died. Catastrophic handling. Vivek92 and sarcastic 2
vvvslaxman Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 596 death in a single day. 39305 news cases in Karnataka. mishra 1
mishra Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: CNN covered US News the same way when it was ravaging USA. BJP Is not India. Blaming BJP is not blaming India. All these narratives are spun to "protect" the image. Nobody can deny people are dying. Just check the #bangalore hashtag on twitter. 90% of the hashtags are referring to someone needing oxygen, someone needing ICU bed. Those images are shown to make everyone understand what is going on in India. Didn't India export millions of vaccines when India needed them? I understand a country with huge population struggling with first wave. But there is no excuse for not being in better position to handle the second wave. Being f***ing total silent is the only thing we get from the leadership. Healthy people that i know have died. Catastrophic handling. Country with huge population dealt million time better then US in first wave. So Kumbh mela is to be blamed for India lockdown but what Kumbh happened in Turkey. Wasnt there bigger "Mela" when Biden won election ? What happening in India is what happened in rest of World during Wave 2. Its just that 1/6th humanity live there and World leaders like US and EU assumed that second wave in India will be managed same way as first. Unfortunately it didn't happen and we are in a mess. There is not much difference between what CCP posted wrt its Rocket and mass cremation vs its hospitals to what Hindu hating news outlets of West reporting. Ie using pandemic to bring down Hinduism. Also election in India is spreading corona but same elections happened in US too, but nationally Edited May 10, 2021 by mishra
vvvslaxman Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, mishra said: Country with huge population dealt million time better then US in first wave. So Kumbh mela is to be blamed for India lockdown but what Kumbh happened in Turkey. Wasnt there bigger "Mela" when Biden won election ? What happening in India is what happened in rest of World during Wave 2. Its just that 1/6th humanity live there and World leaders like US and EU assumed that second wave in India will be managed same way as first. Unfortunately it didn't happen and we are in a mess. There is not much difference between what CCP posted wrt its Rocket and mass cremation vs its hospitals to what Hindu hating news outlets of West reporting. Ie using pandemic to bring down Hinduism Yes. India handled better. Did you see any one blaming India then? But the second wave India shattered all the records. Kumbhmela, islamic congregation, christian summit everything must be blamed. Whataboutism is an excuse to hide the gross incompetency.. "Hindu hating news outlet". What are they? I mean who gives a flying walenda about Hindu religion during a pandemic. Any gathering must be criticized. I criticize my own relatives for birthday get together, wedding get togethers. One of my aunt died after one such gathering. That doesn't mean i am a "relative hating" guy. Protecting "image" is the last thing we should worry about. Hope they are more brutal about the mishandling. Atleast it will wake some people up. Check the history of images. You could see images of all the catastrophies in the history. That is what media is for. Logging the tragedies in history. As long as they don't doctor images (which can easily be called out) we shouldn't really have a problem with that. Under_Score and Lord 1 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes. India handled better. Did you see any one blaming India then? But the second wave India shattered all the records. Kumbhmela, islamic congregation, christian summit everything must be blamed. Whataboutism is an excuse to hide the gross incompetency.. "Hindu hating news outlet". What are they? I mean who gives a flying walenda about Hindu religion during a pandemic. Any gathering must be criticized. I criticize my own relatives for birthday get together, wedding get togethers. One of my aunt died after one such gathering. That doesn't mean i am a "relative hating" guy. Protecting "image" is the last thing we should worry about. Hope they are more brutal about the mishandling. Atleast it will wake some people up. Check the history of images. You could see images of all the catastrophies in the history. That is what media is for. Logging the tragedies in history. As long as they don't doctor images (which can easily be called out) we shouldn't really have a problem with that. good to see someone talking sensible rather doing whataboutism sarcastic, Under_Score and Lord 3
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: 596 death in a single day. 39305 news cases in Karnataka. Im not at all aware of Karnataka situation-so some geniune questions ? Do you believe numbers are right or about right ? Coz then at-least govt is acknowledging the problem IF their a bed or oxygen shortage or it a lil better ? Coz if it is at-least situation is a lil better Numbers wud be high as it spread like anything but i see how its handled afterwards.
vvvslaxman Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: good to see someone talking sensible rather doing whataboutism It is almost like there is a certain group of people live in a parallel world. There are literally people dying. But we are more worried about protecting religion which nobody cares about. Blaming gatherings does not mean blaming religion. But they have to establish this connection as a line of defense for the catastrophic handling of a pandemic. We are willfully becoming regressive.
vvvslaxman Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Im not at all aware of Karnataka situation-so some geniune questions ? Do you believe numbers are right or about right ? Coz then at-least govt is acknowledging the problem IF their a bed or oxygen shortage or it a lil better ? Coz if it is at-least situation is a lil better Numbers wud be high as it spread like anything but i see how its handled afterwards. Karnatka is a hotspot. Probably the hottest spot If you look at this map you could see Karnataka is deadly. https://www.bing.com/covid/local/chennai_tamilnadu_india AP is giving us scary news as well. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/ap-strain-at-least-15-times-more-virulent/article34474035.ece?utm_source=taboola
Ranvir Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 Sorry but all cow urine and faeces health products must be banned. Urine and faeces are toxic and are not meant to be ingested. Under_Score and mishra 2
mishra Posted May 10, 2021 Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes. India handled better. Did you see any one blaming India then? But the second wave India shattered all the records. Kumbhmela, islamic congregation, christian summit everything must be blamed. Whataboutism is an excuse to hide the gross incompetency.. "Hindu hating news outlet". What are they? I mean who gives a flying walenda about Hindu religion during a pandemic. Any gathering must be criticized. I criticize my own relatives for birthday get together, wedding get togethers. One of my aunt died after one such gathering. That doesn't mean i am a "relative hating" guy. Protecting "image" is the last thing we should worry about. Hope they are more brutal about the mishandling. Atleast it will wake some people up. Check the history of images. You could see images of all the catastrophies in the history. That is what media is for. Logging the tragedies in history. As long as they don't doctor images (which can easily be called out) we shouldn't really have a problem with that. Reporting is fine but there is trust deficit when it comes to analysis and conclusions by proven anti India media houses. This anti India BS by them was acceptable and worthy to be ridiculed by Indians atleast when everything was fine. During pandemic, it mostly comes out as Mockery. PS: india managed wave 1 million times better. But I will be accept your view that its not mocking but “recording history”, if you can find one article praising India for wave 1
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