Majestic Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 In 80s, the golden all-rounder quartet were considered legends of the game- Imran, Kapil, Botham and Hadlee. But currently, we have another quarter of all-rounders- Jadeja, Stokes, Shakib and Holder. Who do you think is the most standout among the four All-rounders mentioned in current era? Discuss! Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 From those who actually bat and Bowl in all formats.. Stokes Shakib Jadeja Chris Woakes Shakib had to face a ban, but he is back in action. Holder is a developing all rounder, not in the league of Stokes, Shakib, Woakes and Jadeja who have long established as all format performing all rounders. raki05 and BacktoCricaddict 2 Link to comment
Majestic Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Straight Drive said: From those who actually bat and Bowl in all formats.. Stokes Shakib Jadeja Chris Woakes Shakib had to face a ban, but he is back in action. Holder is a developing all rounder, not in the league of Stokes, Shakib, Woakes and Jadeja who have long established as all format performing all rounders. Is Holder really not in league of Woakes or is it Woakes who is not in league of Holder and other three? Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Straight Drive said: From those who actually bat and Bowl in all formats.. Stokes Shakib Jadeja Chris Woakes Shakib had to face a ban, but he is back in action. Holder is a developing all rounder, not in the league of Stokes, Shakib, Woakes and Jadeja who have long established as all format performing all rounders. Did you mix up Holder and Woakes? Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 15 hours ago, Majestic said: Is Holder really not in league of Woakes or is it Woakes who is not in league of Holder and other three? Holder and Woakes aren't up there with Stokes, Shakib and Jadeja yet imo. raki05 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 14 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Did you mix up Holder and Woakes? Not at all. To me Shakib, Jadeja and stokes are top three all rounders. Woakes and Holder may or may not get in that league. Time will tell. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) What's Shakib's bowling average in SENA? Actually BD rarely gets to play there. I know he has a double ton in NZ though. My Fab 4 Stokes Jadeja Holder (has a match winning 5for in UAE to boot) Woakes/Shakib Edited June 1, 2021 by Lone Wolf Link to comment
Lord Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 7:46 PM, Cricspin said: I don't see cricket having a fav 4 in all round department right now. At least no one talks about it. Shakib - Definitely no.1 with his overall record. Jadeja - Bowling All rounder # Has not got as much chance to bat for being in top heavy Indian team. Has same average as stokes with the bat but not the runs. Stokes - Batting All rounder # He gets chances with bat and ball. Needs to improve Bowling record. His strike rate surprisingly is lower than Shakib and Jadeja in Tests Woakes and Holder are good as well but not the same level as the other 3. Holder will likely retire with better record than Woakes. Moeen Ali - Not sure why no one considers him an all rounder. He is good with the bat and ball. 5 hundreds and closing on 200 test wickets. Ravi Ashwin- His batting has fallen off the radar but he has shown ability with the bat and performed from time to time. Pandya is insignificant until he has some kind of test record under his belt. Too early to include him in any list. If he cant bowl even in LOI then his test chances will be limited. He definitely is an attractive batter. If I have to name top 4 - Shakib, Jadeja, Stokes, Moeen Ali Its lower than Warne too.Legend Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Stokes Jadeja Shakib Holder Pandya batting not good enough in tests Bowling not good enough full stop Ashwin batting not good enough in tests, he's in same category as Woakes Link to comment
Lord Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 20 hours ago, mancalledsting said: Stokes Jadeja Shakib Holder Pandya batting not good enough in tests Bowling not good enough full stop Ashwin batting not good enough in tests, he's in same category as Woakes Ashwin is very capable bat and about equal to Jadeja Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord said: Ashwin is very capable bat and about equal to Jadeja Jadeja's batting arguably merits selection into the test team on its own. Ashwin's doesn't. Khota and AuxiliA 2 Link to comment
Lord Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, mancalledsting said: Jadeja's batting arguably merits selection into the test team on its own. Ashwin's doesn't. Ashwin has 5 Test tons with 2 overseas.Jaddu has just one home ton v Windies It's not only about averages Ashwin's batting had declined but since Aus tour he's been batting well Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord said: Ashwin has 5 Test tons with 2 overseas.Jaddu has just one home ton v Windies It's not only about averages Ashwin's batting had declined but since Aus tour he's been batting well Ok so does Ashwin merit selection in current Indian test side as a batsmen alone? Jadeja does. Link to comment
Lord Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: Ok so does Ashwin merit selection in current Indian test side as a batsmen alone? Jadeja does. no Jadeja doesn't.Definitely not in SENA Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Lord said: no Jadeja doesn't.Definitely not in SENA Jadeja, even in SENA, will bat just as good as Vihari or Mayank in the lower order. Also pick 3-4 wickets and a run out in a match. mancalledsting and Cricspin 2 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Lord said: Ashwin has 5 Test tons with 2 overseas.Jaddu has just one home ton v Windies It's not only about averages Ashwin's batting had declined but since Aus tour he's been batting well Jadeja is better bat than Ashwin & that's why he bats above him when both play. Jaddu has played some good test inns overseas like one in England last time & then vs Aus at MCG recently. He batted decently in Aus in 2018 as well. Ashwin let us down heavily in batting in England & Aus in 2018 & also in South Africa. He himself has admitted his batting was not up to the mark in that period after his recent Chennai ton. Hopefully he has turned a corner now after his success in Aus where he did well with both bat n ball. He can be very useful lower down the order in England Lord 1 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Lord said: no Jadeja doesn't.Definitely not in SENA https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-aus-2018-19-1145097/australia-vs-india-4th-test-1144996/full-scorecard https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-australia-2020-21-1223867/australia-vs-india-3rd-test-1223871/full-scorecard https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-australia-2020-21-1223867/australia-vs-india-2nd-test-1223870/full-scorecard https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-tour-of-england-2014-667693/england-vs-india-2nd-investec-test-667713/full-scorecard https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-tour-of-england-2018-1119528/england-vs-india-5th-test-1119553/full-scorecard AuxiliA and Cricspin 2 Link to comment
Lord Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-aus-2018-19-1145097/australia-vs-india-4th-test-1144996/full-scorecard https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-australia-2020-21-1223867/australia-vs-india-3rd-test-1223871/full-scorecard https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-australia-2020-21-1223867/australia-vs-india-2nd-test-1223870/full-scorecard https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-tour-of-england-2014-667693/england-vs-india-2nd-investec-test-667713/full-scorecard https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-tour-of-england-2018-1119528/england-vs-india-5th-test-1119553/full-scorecard all support acts,not one big impact innings 28* is also included lol Link to comment
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