Should there be a case of horses for courses when it comes to bowling in SENA

[vayuu1]

We saw yesterday bumrah struggled in england yes I agree bowlers are expected to be rusty ,but bumrah is a hit the Deck kind of bowler

So why play him in conditions that doesn't suit his style of bowling

So rotate ur bowler's

Sa aus win attack should be bum,shami, Ishant

In eng nz replace bum and lambu with siraj and thakur

You need bowlers who can bowl fuller in eng nz not back of length,this doesn't mean i disrespect bumrah,but feel these pitches doesn't suit his style of bowling .

[express bowling]

Bumrah was superb on our 2018 tour to England.

 

We should have played Siraj for Shami

+ Shardul for Ashwin ( bowling all-rounder's slot )

Edited June 21, 2021 by express bowling

[ShoonyaSifar]

Cummins and Halewood, both hit the deck bowlers, were very successful in the last Ashes series as was Archer.

 

Bumrah himself bowled superbly on the 2018 tour without much rewards. Complete lack of swing for him yesterday was the biggest issue, he doesn't get much swing but it's never been as bad as he was y'day. Add to it his struggles for settling into a rhythm. Hopefully the overnight rest does the trick and he'll comeback well whenever the match restarts.

[express bowling]

In the 2018 test series in England, Bumrah picked 14 wickets from just 3 tests at an average of 25.9.

 

Bowled superbly !

 

Just needs to do what he did last time.

[vayuu1]

But you are forgetting burah has regressed as new ball bowler 

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Cummins and Halewood, both hit the deck bowlers, were very successful in the last Ashes series as was Archer.

 

Bumrah himself bowled superbly on the 2018 tour without much rewards. 

 

 

True.

 

 

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Complete lack of swing for him yesterday was the biggest issue, he doesn't get much swing but it's never been as bad as he was y'day. Add to it his struggles for settling into a rhythm. Hopefully the overnight rest does the trick and he'll comeback well whenever the match restarts.

 

 

Losing rhythm rather frequently has been Bumrah's biggest issue in 2021.

 

Although not a big swinger of the ball ... really accurate deliveries at 140 k to 145 k, with a bit of seam movement and bounce, is not easy to handle anywhere.

 

But his accuracy is fluctuating a lot these days. And his frequency of heavy balls has reduced too. Wonder whether there is some issue with his wrist whip.

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

25 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

True.

 

 

 

 

Losing rhythm rather frequently has been Bumrah's biggest issue in 2021.

 

Although not a big swinger of the ball ... really accurate deliveries at 140 k to 145 k, with a bit of seam movement and bounce, is not easy to handle anywhere.

 

But his accuracy is fluctuating a lot these days. And his frequency of heavy balls has reduced too. Wonder whether there is some issue with his wrist whip.

 

Surprised to see not much analysis on this by the commentary panel. I tweeted to Ian Bishop last evening requesting him to technically analyse any changes in Bumrah's bowling technique pre vs post injury. Tweeted the same to CricViz team as well. Let's see if they pick it up today.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Yes high time it shud be.....cricket is a game of conditions . U can make an above avg bowler into dangerous one by giving him favourable condition. But in Indian cricket it wont work unless they know where to stop. 

 

• Mayank can play in India in place of any batsman but if he scores 1000 doesnt mean u give him a spot overseas unless his technique has improved massively 
• Taking deepak chahar to ENG n NZ shudnt mean he shud also go to Aus 

 

Horses for courses and Matchups are the future, teams with great bench strengths shud make it a habbit which hasnt happened till now but im sure soon it will. 

 

Have ur main all condition bowler but do add that icing of 1-2 horses for courses

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 hours ago, vayuu1 said:

In eng nz replace bum and lambu with siraj and thakur

dnt see any problem with ishant n bumrah in england, when its doing something Ishant is very dangerous and with Bumrah its form or something im not sure but he is an all condition bowler. 

Ishant can be given a rest in India 

Shami is one who can be looked away from in England 

[Norman]

Not just bowling..batting too. We have enough int'l class players to play vastly different XIs for different conditions. 

 

But the so called seniority culture prevalent in this parts of the world will never let that happen. 

 

 

[vayuu1]

39 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

dnt see any problem with ishant n bumrah in england, when its doing something Ishant is very dangerous and with Bumrah its form or something im not sure but he is an all condition bowler. 

Ishant can be given a rest in India 

Shami is one who can be looked away from in England 

Problem with bumrah is he has regressed as new ball bowler doesnt get you wickets with new ball

[Suhaan]

42 minutes ago, vayuu1 said:

Problem with bumrah is he has regressed as new ball bowler doesnt get you wickets with new ball

This is since pre WC2019

[Suhaan]

Bumrah needs to work on his runup,i had always sooner or later the amount of push and energy which he's compelled to put up during his load up to compensate for the energy lack which could have been achieved through a good runup/a Little longish runup would have reduced the recent async in his bowling

Being a hip dominant bowler he should have focused in his runup as he will not stay strong agile like he was 5 years a go

[Lord]

Bumrah doesnt seem same after injury,that zip off the pitch is lacking

[Lord]

On topic,horses for courses in current game would have been Thakur,Chahar,Unadkat (since Bhuvi is injured)

 

You can't plan an attack like that.

 

Need to have all condition bowlers.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

Bumrah doesnt seem same after injury,that zip off the pitch is lacking

 

 

This is more observable after his abdomen injury in early 2021, in the 3rd test in Australia.

 

 

[Suhaan]

39 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

This is more observable after his abdomen injury in early 2021, in the 3rd test in Australia.

 

 

He will improve but thing is we have to allow someone else to take him over in the meantime,let him get off the tag of India's premier bowler

He will get back to his usual self in sidelines,let others take the mettle ie Siraj,Prasidh,Tyagi,Avesh etc