Khota Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 40 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: 68 t20 chance nhin hota ? top three player in India. and top position is interchangeable. Link to comment
New guy Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Khota said: You should never look at the entire career. You need to make comparisons and take rolling averages. Or pick a common benchmark. Lot of factors go into it but it is not a simple math equation. Stats have been posted about SL series. Average scores with very poor strike rate. You can talk about match situations all you like but its a near minnow team and if his strike rate is so low there he cannot do anything against bigger team Also How is SL series common benchmark when most of our front line batsmen didnt play that? Edited September 11, 2021 by New guy express bowling 1 Link to comment
jalebi_bhai Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 rollingstoned, Mariyam, New guy and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Khota said: top three player in India. and top position is interchangeable. kaise top 3 player....he isnt even making it two formats - its rohit, KL n kohli who makes it to 3 formats as batsman Link to comment
Khota Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, New guy said: Stats have been posted about SL series. Average scores with very poor strike rate. You can talk about match situations all you like but its a near minnow team and if his strike rate is so low there he cannot do anything against bigger team Also How is SL series common benchmark when most of our front line batsmen didnt play that? Common benchmark is IPL. I belive IPL stats more than any other cricket stats. This has been my rant for decades that straight up cricket stats are useless. Meaningless as they dont assign weight to the bowlers. SL series showed he is better than othersreplacements. Link to comment
Khota Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: kaise top 3 player....he isnt even making it two formats - its rohit, KL n kohli who makes it to 3 formats as batsman He beats Kohli as a T20 bat. Kohli has not done much lately but he is top four. Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Khota said: Have a side by side comparison with other openers and show me who is doing better. Pretty much everybody. Top 3 .... https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax2=3;batting_positionmin2=1;batting_positionval2=batting_position;class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmin1=50;qualval1=runs;spanmin1=11+Sep+2019;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting Just openers ..... https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=2;batting_positionmin1=1;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmin1=50;qualval1=runs;spanmin1=11+Sep+2019;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting Edited September 11, 2021 by express bowling rollingstoned and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Khota said: He beats Kohli as a T20 bat. Kohli has not done much lately but he is top four. dhawan beats kohli as t20 bat kohli has been a beast in t20................he was a one man army for us in last 3 t20 Wc let me burst ur recent myth Last 5 scores of Kohli vs Dhawan Kohli 0 73* 77* 1 80* Dhawan 28 4 46 40 0 even in kohli low he doesnt come close to Kohli in t20 Edited September 11, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=2;batting_positionmin1=1;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmin1=50;qualval1=runs;spanmin1=11+Sep+2019;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of stats would drop Kohli and Kishan as the sample size is too small. Once again I dont know who the bowlers were and what conditions were but Rohit/Rahul/Dhawan are very close and the top three. Link to comment
jalebi_bhai Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 @Khota what's with the Dhawan fascination? In ODIs, there is definitely still a case for Dhawan. What are Dhawan's notable achievements in T20I? Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Khota said: Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of stats would drop Kohli and Kishan as the sample size is too small. Once again I dont know who the bowlers were and what conditions were but Rohit/Rahul/Dhawan are very close and the top three. Check the top 3 stats with large sample size https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=3;batting_positionmin1=1;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmax1=700;qualmin1=100;qualval1=runs;spanmin1=11+Sep+2019;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting Mosher 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, jalebi_bhai said: @Khota what's with the Dhawan fascination? In ODIs, there is definitely still a case for Dhawan. What are Dhawan's notable achievements in T20I? There is no obsession. It is all about putting your top bats on the field. Link to comment
Khota Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, express bowling said: Check the top 3 stats with large sample size https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=3;batting_positionmin1=1;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmax1=700;qualmin1=100;qualval1=runs;spanmin1=11+Sep+2019;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting Can you check the IPL stats too? Link to comment
Lord Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Khota said: Can you check the IPL stats too? IPL isnt international.If one is failing in intl,he shouldnt play it. Can play IPL who cares express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Khota said: Can you check the IPL stats too? If someone cannot perform at the international level after enough chances then pre-international level stats are not relevant any more. Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 15 hours ago, Khota said: Sharma, Dhawan and KL are the top three bats for India. Not selecting Dhawan is a blunder. are you talking about David Dhawan @Mariyam any insights about a govinda comeback express bowling, kruiser and Mariyam 1 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Khota said: Can you check the IPL stats too? did his form convert into international ???? Noooo a big noooooooooo Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 not surprising people still believe it, most lundits still lazily see stats and assume he is one of our 3 best batsmen, Indian or otherwise. They don't dig any deeper to probe the accuracy of that notion. Link to comment
kruiser Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Shikhar should bowl more. He can get in the team as an all-rounder.... If that breed exists! Banton and Lord 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: not surprising people still believe it, most lundits still lazily see stats and assume he is one of our 3 best batsmen, Indian or otherwise. They don't dig any deeper to probe the accuracy of that notion. but their is no stat to suggest he is India's top 3 t20 players . Link to comment
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