Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Lord said: They haven't played much specially Prasidh. Pra.sidh could have learnt it Ofcourse Rauf is better bowler but he was also mediocre a year or so ago. We have to develop someone like him. Inse ache option hai t20 men Kuldeep sen- has all qualities just needs experience and polishing Tyagi- Very good at death all he needs is exp Umran- all he needs is to cut down runs when he isnt having a good day and variation Mohsin- just get fit Mavi- has all just dont loose pace Edited October 27, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03 express bowling and Lord 1 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: jab karenge tab dekhenge Year Mat O M R W 4w Best Avg S/R E/R 2020 11 43.0 0 372 16 0 3/29 23.25 16.13 8.65 2021 23 76.3 0 637 25 1 4/22 25.48 18.36 8.33 2022 17 63.1 0 501 25 0 3/28 20.04 15.16 7.93 Overall 51 182.4 0 1510 66 1 4/22 22.88 16.61 8.27 when ??? Praish best yr in IPL was 29 avg and 8.28 eco Saini best yr avg in IPL was 36 and eco 8.27 Uske worst yr ki bhi avg 25 hia internatinal men inke best ki dekh lo Inke to best yr IPL men bhi maha avg dikhte hai and international gets tougher IPL is in India and UAE. I'm talking specifically of Aus conditions where tall bowlers do well. Conditions make big difference. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Inse ache option hai t20 men Kuldeep sen- has all qualities just needs experience and polishing Tyagi- Very good at death all he needs is exp Umran- all he needs is to cut down runs when he isnt having a good day and variation Mohsin- just get fit Mavi- has all just dont loose pace Right about Mohsin and Sen though need to see more. Umran is more of a skiddy bowler like Shami. Mavi more of a swing bowler. Tyagi looks real good but getting injured too much Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Lord said: IPL is in India and UAE. I'm talking specifically of Aus conditions where tall bowlers do well. Conditions make big difference. but for that first u need to know how to ball well in the format , Rauf does well everywhere Aussies conditions also vary venue to venue , ek jagah acha kar bhi loge to kya dusri jagah fassoge . These are good batting wkts also at the end and how do u expect a team to back assuming u will only come good in one conditon, aur waha bhi agar batsman ka acha backfoot game hua fir ?? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Lord said: Right about Mohsin and Sen though need to see more. Umran is more of a skiddy bowler like Shami. Mavi more of a swing bowler. Tyagi looks real good but getting injured too much Mavi has all tools to go through all phases Umran is skiddy yes but his pace is very high and short ball very strong If u know how to bowl in this format kisi bhi condition men kaam chala loge, sam curran is bowling well in Aus which logically shudnt have happened Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Lord said: IPL is in India and UAE. I'm talking specifically of Aus conditions where tall bowlers do well. Conditions make big difference. and in case of prasidh if ur arent hitting the deck hard in middle and floating it like he did in Eng, WI, Zimb what diff wud it make or bowl in slot as has been in problem, aussie pitches wont save Same in case of saini , if u bowl wrong length or keep bowling beamers aussie pitches wont help u. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: and in case of prasidh if ur arent hitting the deck hard in middle and floating it like he did in Eng, WI, Zimb what diff wud it make or bowl in slot as has been in problem, aussie pitches wont save Same in case of saini , if u bowl wrong length or keep bowling beamers aussie pitches wont help u. In Eng, floating works coz of swing in the air. No use of banging it in there. Bowlers can improve with time and nothing wrong in backing condition specific bowlers Its same reason why even Hardik looks better on these pitches compared to swing bowlers. Never said they could escape with wrong lengths. Ofcourse they'll have to be at their best Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Lord said: In Eng, floating works coz of swing in the air. No use of banging it in there. In middle over floating works no where unless u have variaton which again not the case with prasidh Swing is in intial overs not middle-prasidh was strruggling in middle overs 9 hours ago, Lord said: Bowlers can improve with time and nothing wrong in backing condition specific bowlers When they do no one will have a problem 9 hours ago, Lord said: Its same reason why even Hardik looks better on these pitches compared to swing bowlers. Hardik won u games in england, wi, asia cup, IPL..................thats what im saying if ur good ur good everywhere arshdeep another example has been doing well in different conditions coz he knows how to bowl in this format Edited October 27, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: and in case of prasidh if ur arent hitting the deck hard in middle and floating it like he did in Eng, WI, Zimb what diff wud it make Prasidh was not floating the ball up. My impression is that he was already having the issues which finally took him out, which is why he was down both on bounce and pace. Mosher 1 Link to comment
MechEng Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Why is Shaheen struggling to bowl inswingers at 150 kph like he did last year? Link to comment
SecondSlip Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, express bowling said: Tyagi is tall and bouncy whereas Nasim is short and skiddy. Prasidh is also tall and very bouncy whereas Dahani is medium height and with a good bouncer. So who are the Indian speedsters who could be like-for-like comparisons of Pakistan's "speedy 6" ? Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, SecondSlip said: So who are the Indian speedsters who could be like-for-like comparisons of Pakistan's "speedy 6" ? We don't really have like for like comparisons. Most of our new quick bowlers are 6'2"+, except Umran. While Naseem, Dahani etc. are less than 6'0". Wasim Jn looked medium height too. Shaheen and Mohsin maybe comparable in terms of height, pace, left arm bowling and swing. Although Mohsin takes the ball away and Shaheen brings it back to RHB. Umran and Rauf are comparable in terms of pace. But Rauf is taller and Umran quicker and skiddier. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 49 minutes ago, MechEng said: Why is Shaheen struggling to bowl inswingers at 150 kph like he did last year? He never bowled 150 inswinging ,its all propoganda Mosher, AuxiliA and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
SecondSlip Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 15 hours ago, express bowling said: We don't really have like for like comparisons. Most of our new quick bowlers are 6'2"+, except Umran. While Naseem, Dahani etc. are less than 6'0". Wasim Jn looked medium height too. Shaheen and Mohsin maybe comparable in terms of height, pace, left arm bowling and swing. Although Mohsin takes the ball away and Shaheen brings it back to RHB. Umran and Rauf are comparable in terms of pace. But Rauf is taller and Umran quicker and skiddier. What is your version of India's "Speedy 6" out of the new quick lot? express bowling 1 Link to comment
vayuu1 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 18 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Inse ache option hai t20 men Kuldeep sen- has all qualities just needs experience and polishing Tyagi- Very good at death all he needs is exp Umran- all he needs is to cut down runs when he isnt having a good day and variation Mohsin- just get fit Mavi- has all just dont loose pace Don't forget hangergekar and yatin mangwani tall and quick especially mangwani baffles me why is his state team not giving him enough chances Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, SecondSlip said: What is your version of India's "Speedy 6" out of the new quick lot? 1. Jasprit Bumrah .... Fast ........ Medium Height and Bouncy 2. Kartik Tyagi .... Fast .. Tall and Bouncy 3. Umran Malik .... Express .. Short and Skiddy 4. Kuldeep Sen .... Fast .. Tall and Bouncy 5. Mohsin Khan .... Fast-medium .. Tall and Very Bouncy 6. Prasidh Krishna .... Fast / Fast-medium .. Tall and Very Bouncy We have high pace, height, steep bounce, swing, seam reverse swing, bouncers, yorkers and slower balls, all covered by picking this lot. P.S .... I like the term " India's Speedy Six " : ) Edited October 28, 2022 by express bowling AuxiliA, Mosher and singhvivek141 1 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 16 hours ago, MechEng said: Why is Shaheen struggling to bowl inswingers at 150 kph like he did last year? I think Shaheen bowled just 1 ball.at 150 k+ in the last World Cup. His fastest vs India in WC 2021 was 146 k. Mosher 1 Link to comment
the don Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, express bowling said: I think Shaheen bowled just 1 ball.at 150 k+ in the last World Cup. His fastest vs India in WC 2021 was 146 k. He bowled 150 plus vs newzealand, several vs afghanistan to zazai. Bowled 148 kph to get finch in the semi final. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, the don said: He bowled 150 plus vs newzealand, several vs afghanistan to zazai. Bowled 148 kph to get finch in the semi final. There were a lot of discussions at that time that there was 1 delivery at 151 k. Even you said so. He bowled a few at 147 k and 148 k. Edited October 28, 2022 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
vice Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I would give Prasidh a run in Tests. looks ideal test bowler. Link to comment
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