Calm Down. Pakistan Just Had A Good Day and Nothing More.

[Khota]

I am disappointed too but sheet happens. Move on as there is a lot of cricket to be played.

 

Pakistan played there A+ game and India played C-.

 

Meanwhile they really need to get the batting sorted out.

 

BCCI needs to send an Analytics expert to help with fielding.

 

Rona Dhona bandh.

 

Sun will come out tomorrow.

 

Sky is not falling.

[Try_Ball]

It isn't about how Pakistan played but more about how India played. 

One team playing well doesn't necessarily mean the other team doesn't even show up 

[Laaloo]

Indias international t20 team has been awful since 2008. There is no innovation. No explosiveness. These openers are happy taking singles and the occasional boundaries. They are happy with subpar totals. Need it change the entire mindset similar to what England did in 50 overs after 2015 WC.

[cricketfan28]

agree , we will come back strongly.

[Khota]

17 minutes ago, Try_Ball said:

It isn't about how Pakistan played but more about how India played. 

One team playing well doesn't necessarily mean the other team doesn't even show up 

Like I said India played there C- game. That is on the coach and nothing more.

[rangeelaraja]

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

Like I said India played there C- game. That is on the coach and nothing more.

 

 

When was the last time India played their A game in a big high pressure T20 game ?

[Khota]

14 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Indias international t20 team has been awful since 2008. There is no innovation. No explosiveness. These openers are happy taking singles and the occasional boundaries. They are happy with subpar totals. Need it change the entire mindset similar to what England did in 50 overs after 2015 WC.

It is not as bad as you make it. As an opener you have to strike a balance. Dhawan was doing that but people on this forum know more.

[Khota]

5 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

When was the last time India played their A game in a big high pressure T20 game ?

That comes down to preparation. I blame Shastri for that.

[Khota]

15 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said:

agree , we will come back strongly.

That is the right mindset. Believe.

[Try_Ball]

4 minutes ago, Khota said:

Like I said India played there C- game. That is on the coach and nothing more.

The coach forgot to teach Sharma how NOT to play an inswing with front foot facing the covers ?  Or Coach forgot to tell Jadeja and Pandya to hit cleanly? 

Coach cannot play - the tactical mistakes are seperate from the performance on the field.

When you get outclassed in Batting / Bowling / Fielding / Energy on the field  - do not blame the coach .  

Grown professional players do not need "coaching" for individual play -   Apart from tactical blunders,  the individual performance was terrible 

So I Wouldn't focus on the coach here 

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[rangeelaraja]

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

That comes down to preparation. I blame Shastri for that.

 

 

How much freedom does Shastri or for that matter anyone else have with Kohli around ?

 

Is kohli not responsible for on field decisions and the composition of the XI ?

[Khota]

6 minutes ago, Try_Ball said:

The coach forgot to teach Sharma how NOT to play an inswing with front foot facing the covers ?  Or Coach forgot to tell Jadeja and Pandya to hit cleanly? 

Coach cannot play - the tactical mistakes are seperate from the performance on the field.

When you get outclasses in Batting / Bowling / Fielding / Energy on the field  - do not blame the coach .  

Grown professional players do not need "coaching" for individual play -   Apart from tactical blunders,  the individual performance was terrible 

So I Wouldn't focus on the coach here 

Coach should not have exposed Sharma.

 

Coach and Analytics should have guided Indian team to be cautious in the beginning.

 

Everyone needs coaching. Everyone.

[Khota]

8 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

How much freedom does Shastri or for that matter anyone else have with Kohli around ?

 

Is kohli not responsible for on field decisions and the composition of the XI ?

Probably not much but team selection was not on Kohli and neither it should be.

 

Also Kohli is not the problem. It is the system. I have been saying on this forum for half a decade to split captaincy.

[Try_Ball]

4 minutes ago, Khota said:

That comes down to preparation. I blame Shastri for that.

So a combination of Shastri and Dhoni is worse than Pakistan who do not even have a coach with their 2 coaches quitting on them and having 2 international consultants who barely know the team ?

At this level - Coaching is redundant - It will not lose or win you any game.   If each of your player isn't giving their 100 % then that's the problem

[Khota]

6 minutes ago, Try_Ball said:

So a combination of Shastri and Dhoni is worse than Pakistan who do not even have a coach with their 2 coaches quitting on them and having 2 international consultants who barely know the team ?

At this level - Coaching is redundant - It will not lose or win you any game.   If each of your player isn't giving their 100 % then that's the problem

It takes a good coach to get 110% out of their players.

[Try_Ball]

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

Coach should not have exposed Sharma.

 

Coach and Analytics should have guided Indian team to be cautious in the beginning.

 

Everyone needs coaching. Everyone.

Not exposed Sharma?   What is he a new bride or something ?  Your best white ball player should have not been "exposed" to facing a bowling attack ?  Haha ,  what position would you play Sharma then? 

How do you know they did not guide the Team ?   How do you know it's Sharma who did not apply what he was advised ?

Incorrect -  at the highest level of support - Coaching is more of an "advise"  not to correct your technicals.  That's done at a much younger age.  Player with more than a decade of experience do not need coaching on a daily basis.  It is Sharma's responsiblity to review his technique and how he is playing left arm seamers. 

[Try_Ball]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

It takes a good coach to get 110% out of their players.

A good coach cannot bring 110 % out of every player.   Some players are not "coachable" 

[Try_Ball]

4 minutes ago, Khota said:

Probably not much but team selection was not on Kohli and neither it should be.

 

Also Kohli is not the problem. It is the system. I have been saying on this forum for half a decade to split captaincy.

Selection is definitely on the captain .  He has the most say in the playing 11 

Kohli's captaincy is the biggest issue - His tactical blunders cannot be ignored 

[Khota]

7 minutes ago, Try_Ball said:

Not exposed Sharma?   What is he a new bride or something ?  Your best white ball player should have not been "exposed" to facing a bowling attack ?  Haha ,  what position would you play Sharma then? 

How do you know they did not guide the Team ?   How do you know it's Sharma who did not apply what he was advised ?

Incorrect -  at the highest level of support - Coaching is more of an "advise"  not to correct your technicals.  That's done at a much younger age.  Player with more than a decade of experience do not need coaching on a daily basis.  It is Sharma's responsiblity to review his technique and how he is playing left arm seamers. 

Sharma was struggling in IPL. Dhawan was ahead of him

Team look liked it came without a plan.

At that level you need coaching to fine tune your game all the time.

 

[Khota]

8 minutes ago, Try_Ball said:

Selection is definitely on the captain .  He has the most say in the playing 11 

Kohli's captaincy is the biggest issue - His tactical blunders cannot be ignored 

 

Dropping Dhawan was on selection committee.

 

Playing Pandya was on Kohli.