De Kock announces international retirement

[Jay]

Let me just kill your wife but I will pay for your child's expenses till eternity and leave him my assets when when pass away. That's exactly what white kuffors achieved In s.a

[kepler37b]

20 minutes ago, Jay said:

Let me just kill your wife but I will pay for your child's expenses till eternity and leave him my assets when when pass away. That's exactly what white kuffors achieved In s.a

 The people who committed those crimes are gone OR dead. Let's not extract the revenge from current generation of whitey's.

[Jay]

4 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

 The people who committed those crimes are gone OR dead. Let's not extract the revenge from current generation of whitey's.

Bloodline still exists though but fair enough. Don't get me wrong, the black people are no better. They kill their own kind for money. My partner's parents have been held at gunpoint in the past. There is a misguided justice system in place. Tbf the blacks brought this upon themselves. Better education may help but they are quite lazy in general. 

[Suhaan]

Kohli must take a knee,oops "cue"and retire from international cricket

A "GOAT" like him enduring the pain brings our "GOATY"in the mouth

[diga]

I suspect the reason for DeKocks retirement may not be only spending time with family..

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Kohli must take a knee,oops "cue"and retire from international cricket

A "GOAT" like him enduring the pain brings our "GOATY"in the mouth

Kohli won't retire anytime soon.... not unless he is "dropped", which itself won't happen

[kepler37b]

30 minutes ago, Jay said:

Bloodline still exists though but fair enough. Don't get me wrong, the black people are no better. They kill their own kind for money. My partner's parents have been held at gunpoint in the past. There is a misguided justice system in place. Tbf the blacks brought this upon themselves. Better education may help but they are quite lazy in general. 

The improper environment in which black children grow up makes them vulnerable to violence and addiction.

 

I would say impose a strict mandatory residential education on these folks from the age of 3 to 15. Pull them away from slums and gangs as far as possible. This will definitely improve the prospects.

[nevada]

9 hours ago, Bigg Brother said:

Who are the reserve keepers? Are they any good? This will be huge loss. He just turned 29 couple of weeks ago..

Wow, just 29! He has been around for a while and I thought he is 31-32. There should have a rule to prevent partial retirement. If a player wants to play for his country, he should be willing to play whichever format he is selected for. Just retire from all formats or take a sabbatical and then decide on a comeback or not.  

[Real McCoy]

9 hours ago, wanted_desi said:

It was due to fall out between CSA and De Kock during that black life matters saga. 

 

10 hours ago, Vijy said:

there are some good back-up batter-keepers who will now get a chance, although we need to see how well they do. Although de Kock has listed covid-19, I wonder if he's had some falling out with the SA board too, especially during that whole "take the knee" saga

If I had to guess, that must be it. I don't think not taking a knee should vilify him as a racist as some poster has done here. CSA has abominable policies and may as well end their domination at cricket. SA in the late 90s spelled absolute terror even to the mighty aussies. What a fall from grace. You'll see white flight from SA sports. Players like ABDV, Faf, Steyn, etc have shown disinterest in their last of their playing days. I don't think this is because they don't want to play. CSA has worn off their commitment and they retired jaded

[Vilander]

47 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

strict mandatory residential education on these folks from the age of 3 to 15.

Oops.... Don't do that.. Never ever do that.. Damn that's a bad idea ask cannucks here. 

[prinzo]

guys , I see many of comments about whites , racism , BLM etc.

 

Let me give you my point of view - I am more then qualified to speak on this matter as i am South African Indian born , forefathers came to South Africa in 1860 on a ship to work on the sugar cane plantations. South African Indian born population over a 1 million plus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_South_Africans

 

So to make this short and sweet , forget about racism , it does exist , but South african cricket is still very much a and money sport in SA.

If you dont go to a recognized sporting school , you wont have the coaching and the orportunity to go for trials etc.

Faf du Plessis , AB De Villiers - Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool

Kagiso Rabada - St Stithians College

Quinton de Kock - King Edward VII School in Johannesburg

Lungi Ngidi - Hilton College

HAshim Amla - Durban high school

Makhaya Ntini - Dale College Boy's High School

 

of course there are a few that have made it from lesser known schools.

But the point im making is , if you dont go to a name brand high school , your chances will have dropped.

All the above players had an unfair advantage , although they performed , but the others that can perform the same or even better maybe has not been given the chance.,

the problem continues today.

 

myself,  i was not afforded the opportunity to go for trials etc as i was in an indian area school.

im confident to say that there can be at least 5-8 players of South african born indians in the protea setup - if given the opportunity and scouting from the regions and indian south african areas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[prinzo]

2 hours ago, kepler37b said:

The improper environment in which black children grow up makes them vulnerable to violence and addiction.

 

I would say impose a strict mandatory residential education on these folks from the age of 3 to 15. Pull them away from slums and gangs as far as possible. This will definitely improve the prospects.

The problem is there is still many informal settlements , while their government enrich themselves with nice houses and cars , the same poor people in the slums continue to vote for them in power

There is also a big drug problem in the South African Indian communities with regards to drug abuse, especially from the youth. 

[nevada]

11 minutes ago, prinzo said:

guys , I see many of comments about whites , racism , BLM etc.

 

Let me give you my point of view - I am more then qualified to speak on this matter as i am South African Indian born , forefathers came to South Africa in 1860 on a ship to work on the sugar cane plantations. South African Indian born population over a 1 million plus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_South_Africans

 

So to make this short and sweet , forget about racism , it does exist , but South african cricket is still very much a and money sport in SA.

If you dont go to a recognized sporting school , you wont have the coaching and the orportunity to go for trials etc.

Faf du Plessis , AB De Villiers - Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool

Kagiso Rabada - St Stithians College

Quinton de Kock - King Edward VII School in Johannesburg

Lungi Ngidi - Hilton College

HAshim Amla - Durban high school

Makhaya Ntini - Dale College Boy's High School

 

of course there are a few that have made it from lesser known schools.

But the point im making is , if you dont go to a name brand high school , your chances will have dropped.

All the above players had an unfair advantage , although they performed , but the others that can perform the same or even better maybe has not been given the chance.,

the problem continues today.

 

myself,  i was not afforded the opportunity to go for trials etc as i was in an indian area school.

im confident to say that there can be at least 5-8 players of South african born indians in the protea setup - if given the opportunity and scouting from the regions and indian south african areas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which school are Keshav Maharaj and Senuran Muthusamy from? Are they also prestigious schools? Do most people of Indian descent live in Durban?

[Real McCoy]

1 hour ago, prinzo said:

The problem is there is still many informal settlements , while their government enrich themselves with nice houses and cars , the same poor people in the slums continue to vote for them in power

There is also a big drug problem in the South African Indian communities with regards to drug abuse, especially from the youth. 

THat's disturbing. Your political situation is not far from India. politicians have become rich by politics and poor people vote them for some trinkets they offer during election season. This is a topic that should be addressed in a different section of this forum. I'll try to create a post on "chit chat" and tag you there.

[Real McCoy]

1 hour ago, prinzo said:

guys , I see many of comments about whites , racism , BLM etc.

 

Let me give you my point of view - I am more then qualified to speak on this matter as i am South African Indian born , forefathers came to South Africa in 1860 on a ship to work on the sugar cane plantations. South African Indian born population over a 1 million plus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_South_Africans

 

So to make this short and sweet , forget about racism , it does exist , but South african cricket is still very much a and money sport in SA.

If you dont go to a recognized sporting school , you wont have the coaching and the orportunity to go for trials etc.

Faf du Plessis , AB De Villiers - Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool

Kagiso Rabada - St Stithians College

Quinton de Kock - King Edward VII School in Johannesburg

Lungi Ngidi - Hilton College

HAshim Amla - Durban high school

Makhaya Ntini - Dale College Boy's High School

 

of course there are a few that have made it from lesser known schools.

But the point im making is , if you dont go to a name brand high school , your chances will have dropped.

All the above players had an unfair advantage , although they performed , but the others that can perform the same or even better maybe has not been given the chance.,

the problem continues today.

 

myself,  i was not afforded the opportunity to go for trials etc as i was in an indian area school.

im confident to say that there can be at least 5-8 players of South african born indians in the protea setup - if given the opportunity and scouting from the regions and indian south african areas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

all these schools are in white area schools? you said they don't recruit from Indian area schools. do you agree with the CSA quota system?

[kepler37b]

1 hour ago, prinzo said:

The problem is there is still many informal settlements , while their government enrich themselves with nice houses and cars , the same poor people in the slums continue to vote for them in power

There is also a big drug problem in the South African Indian communities with regards to drug abuse, especially from the youth. 

Politicians do not have incentive or capability for long term solution. Democracy as a system is piss poor in encouraging systematic solutions. Only patches are applicable.

[Real McCoy]

3 hours ago, Jay said:

Bloodline still exists though but fair enough. Don't get me wrong, the black people are no better. They kill their own kind for money. My partner's parents have been held at gunpoint in the past. There is a misguided justice system in place. Tbf the blacks brought this upon themselves. Better education may help but they are quite lazy in general. 

Do you live in SA or some area where blacks live like USA? Is your partner black? I don't disagree with your theory just want to hear more about it

[Jay]

19 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Do you live in SA or some area where blacks live like USA? Is your partner black? I don't disagree with your theory just want to hear more about it

My partner is half white half Indian. As in coloured. They are called coloured. Her mom is Dutch Afrikaan and dad is Indian. 

 

Nha live In brisbane Australia. 

Edited December 31, 2021 by Jay

[Real McCoy]

13 minutes ago, Jay said:

My partner is half white half Indian. As in coloured. They are called coloured. Her mom is Dutch Afrikaan and dad is Indian. 

 

Nha live In brisbane Australia. 

There are blacks in Aus When you said blacks kill their own kind and followed it up with your in laws, its kinda confusing. If blacks are in Aus, they must be the refugee kind. There's no way of defending them by saying they need more education. That's like saying tigers need better education so that they can live normally like house cats. They are criminals and need to be held accountable so that other blacks and everyone else live in peace. Its not like USA or SA where blacks were disenfranchised supposedly.

[Jay]

7 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

There are blacks in Aus When you said blacks kill their own kind and followed it up with your in laws, its kinda confusing. If blacks are in Aus, they must be the refugee kind. There's no way of defending them by saying they need more education. That's like saying tigers need better education so that they can live normally like house cats. They are criminals and need to be held accountable so that other blacks and everyone else live in peace. Its not like USA or SA where blacks were disenfranchised supposedly.

Oh nha. This happened to her family in SA. She lived in SA for 7 odd years and then move to Australia.