How much short are Indian batsmen falling?

[Trichromatic]

Bowled out for 202 in first innings of 2nd test.

 

This looked like 270-300 type conditions. Short by 70-100 runs.

[Lord]

And 70 of those coming from lower order (7-11)

[Vijy]

Just now, Trichromatic said:

Bowled out for 202 in first innings of 2nd test.

 

This looked like 270-300 type conditions. Short by 70-100 runs.

yes, because our nos. 3-5 didn't step enough. 25 runs more from each would have sufficed to get to 275.

[rollingstoned]

this was easily a 300 pitch if they had applied themselves. we just needed 2 of the 3 trimurthis in this match to make 30s - due considering law of averages - and we would have got close. Not asking for a lot.

[Vijy]

10 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

this was easily a 300 pitch if they had applied themselves. we just needed 2 of the 3 trimurthis in this match to make 30s - due considering law of averages - and we would have got close. Not asking for a lot.

they are beyond the "law of averages", which only applies to mortals. they are at a diff level than normal human beings

[anish2tweet]

Bowled out for 202 in first innings of 2nd test.
 
This looked like 270-300 type conditions. Short by 70-100 runs.

I thought it was a hard pitch to bat on because of the bounce and good bowling by Olivier, Rabada and Jansen. Unless you are patient, one cannot survive on this pitch.

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[Trichromatic]

29 minutes ago, anish2tweet said:

I thought it was a hard pitch to bat on because of the bounce and good bowling by Olivier, Rabada and Jansen. Unless you are patient, one cannot survive on this pitch.

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Yes it was difficult, but it was 275 type difficult, not 202 type difficult.

 

[neel roy]

230/240 winning score here. Centurion was paradise in comparison to this. In centurion you could cut or drive. Here it is near impossible unless hard slash. Even then the variable bounce makes it hard. You saw how peterson tried to slash and got outside edge only to be dropped. The ball is rising from good length. You cant go bang bang here. Ashwins 46 and bumrahs 14 along with shami s 9 is gold dust

[jusarrived]

We could have easily been bowled out for 100-120 here, so considering we are playing 2 batsmen short and Pant who seems to be out of form this is close to the best total we could have posted. I would have ideally liked another 50-60, but I think we can bowl SA out for 180-220 kind of total 

Edited January 3, 2022 by jusarrived

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Yes it was difficult, but it was 275 type difficult, not 202 type difficult.

 

yes, scoring 275-300 was feasible and expected.

[Laaloo]

1 hour ago, anish2tweet said:

I thought it was a hard pitch to bat on because of the bounce and good bowling by Olivier, Rabada and Jansen. Unless you are patient, one cannot survive on this pitch.

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[Trichromatic]

Those 70-100 runs which team missed in first innings will hurt the team.

 

Even in 2nd inning Pujara and Rahane were set, conditions had eased out. By the time effect of heavy roller worn off, they got out. Just scoring to save their place and not doing enough to get into strong position.

 

Add Pant's brainfade to the list. Vihari as specialist batsman remained unbeaten.

 

Short by 50-70 runs in 2nd inning.

 

Runs by Indian batsmen in this match.

 

Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
R Ashwin	1	2	0	62	46	31.00	64	96.87	0	0	0	8	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
GH Vihari	1	2	1	60	40*	60.00	137	43.79	0	0	0	9	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
AM Rahane	1	2	0	58	58	29.00	79	73.41	0	1	1	8	1	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
KL Rahul	1	2	0	58	50	29.00	154	37.66	0	1	0	10	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
CA Pujara	1	2	0	56	53	28.00	119	47.05	0	1	0	10	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
MA Agarwal	1	2	0	49	26	24.50	74	66.21	0	0	0	10	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
SN Thakur	1	2	0	28	28	14.00	29	96.55	0	0	1	5	1	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
JJ Bumrah	1	2	1	21	14*	21.00	25	84.00	0	0	0	2	2	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
RR Pant	1	2	0	17	17	8.50	46	36.95	0	0	1	1	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Mohammed Shami	1	2	0	9	9	4.50	18	50.00	0	0	1	1	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Mohammed Siraj	1	2	0	1	1	0.50	8	12.50	0	0	1	0	0

 

 

[Vijy]

31 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Those 70-100 runs which team missed in first innings will hurt the team.

 

Even in 2nd inning Pujara and Rahane were set, conditions had eased out. By the time effect of heavy roller worn off, they got out. Just scoring to save their place and not doing enough to get into strong position.

 

Add Pant's brainfade to the list. Vihari as specialist batsman remained unbeaten.

 

Short by 50-70 runs in 2nd inning.

 

Runs by Indian batsmen in this match.

 

Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
R Ashwin	1	2	0	62	46	31.00	64	96.87	0	0	0	8	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
GH Vihari	1	2	1	60	40*	60.00	137	43.79	0	0	0	9	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
AM Rahane	1	2	0	58	58	29.00	79	73.41	0	1	1	8	1	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
KL Rahul	1	2	0	58	50	29.00	154	37.66	0	1	0	10	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
CA Pujara	1	2	0	56	53	28.00	119	47.05	0	1	0	10	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
MA Agarwal	1	2	0	49	26	24.50	74	66.21	0	0	0	10	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
SN Thakur	1	2	0	28	28	14.00	29	96.55	0	0	1	5	1	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
JJ Bumrah	1	2	1	21	14*	21.00	25	84.00	0	0	0	2	2	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
RR Pant	1	2	0	17	17	8.50	46	36.95	0	0	1	1	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Mohammed Shami	1	2	0	9	9	4.50	18	50.00	0	0	1	1	0	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Mohammed Siraj	1	2	0	1	1	0.50	8	12.50	0	0	1	0	0

 

 

pant was clearly the biggest disappointment. a big non-contributor.

[Jay]

Put mcgrath bumrah and Cummins together and they still csnt save this batting lineup. Most God damn awful batting lineup in our history. 

One game our bowlers decide to be off colour. Not over yet. They may very well come back tomorrow but we all see our batsman's true colours when our bowlers have a poor outing. 

 

This was a 285 -300 pitch in the first innings. Even second innings was even easier to bat on. Just God damn awful batting. Look at our batting rofl. 

 

Guess what? When you are a man down you get less rest. Guess what else can affect bowlers? When your batsmen get bowled out for low scores I the first innings on a relatively flat surface. Less rest which exacerbates fatigue levels. 

[Pollack]

Height is not an indicator of cricketing skills. Indian batsman are short but they have skills. 

[Jay]

19 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Height is not an indicator of cricketing skills. Indian batsman are short but they have skills. 

No they don't. Otherwise they would have posted 300 on this pitch.

[Vijy]

In the final analysis, short by 50-70 runs in both innings.

[putrevus]

I don't think batting was the reason why they lost this match. When you are barely able to take 3 wickets defending 240 then even 400 is not enough.They did not even trouble the batsmen today.They simply did not know how and where  to bowl on this wicket.

[Jay]

Rahul 5'11

Mayank 5'7

Pujara 5'11

Rahane 5'4?

Pant 5'2

Vihari.6 foot. 

 

2 midgets 

1 shot dude

3 tallish guys. 

 

Excellent variety here. 

[Trichromatic]

Short by 130 runs in first inning of 3rd test.