Prakat Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Imagine waking up one day, an ordinary mundane day. Imagine your friend messaging you, saying “Hana, you are also in it”, with a link to a Twitter account. Imagine clicking on the link and almost mindlessly scrolling through a list of names, women, some friends, wondering why you’re tagged to this list. You click on the link. You are taken to a familiar-looking app, the apps you had mindlessly used when younger, telling you what kind of life you’d have, what kind of princess you are, those Facebook no-brain applications. The app’s title is “Sulli Deals” and it says “find your Sulli Deal of the day”. A saffron button that you click says “find me a Sulli”. You click on the button, now curious about what this was. A picture of a woman pops up. You don’t read fine print. You go back and click again. And again. Now with a little bit of an alarm ringing in your head. All the training you’ve had in knowing instinctively when you’re in trouble comes to play, your body instinctively realising that this is sinister. You then click again and you see a picture of yourself. And you are washed in an inexplicable dread. And you know. I didn’t know what “Sulli” meant. I knew it was ugly. I asked a friend. He explained to me that it was a derogatory slur for a Muslim woman. For someone who was just taking the information in, it was now waves of horror. You see, I am a pilot by profession. I was in the media industry for a few years and hence the attraction to social media and politics. But mine is not a political account. I do not write on politics. And I was never trolled or not trolled to the extent of the other women that I knew. I slowly started understanding that I was targeted solely for my identity as a Muslim woman. And it left me aghast. I was not blind to what is happening in our country, the political climate and the many challenges the community and country faced as a whole. But you never think you would ever be a target. You live in a false sense of security. I realised very quickly that I was living in a bubble. That it was just so easy to be targeted in the next horror story. That we are extremely vulnerable to things going south very quickly. The stages of not knowing, disbelief in what you are beginning to understand, waves of horror, despair, and then rage are agonisingly slow. Every emotion has a taste and feel. I remember vividly feeling foggy and I had a hard time following conversations. Things looked blurry. 83 others and I were targeted because we were vocal Muslim women voices. There is no use in speculating otherwise. Muslim women who were listened to, women who had a significant presence on social media. These Muslim women do not fit into the narrative of the docile, submissive, uneducated, oppressed women of their imaginations and propaganda. There is a constant narrative being built around the fiction that Muslim women need “saving”. Hence there is a constant effort to silence these women who just refuse to fit into their publicised versions of us. Another aspect to this is they consider us soft targets. Like in ancient times, women were violated as the first step to subjugating a race or a kingdom. And in their twisted minds, these people feel that they would successfully accomplish this in this manner. ALSO READ | After 'Sulli Deals', another app 'Bulli Bai' lists Muslim women for auction The Sulli Deals app was discovered in July but before that, on Eid in May, amidst the second Covid wave, Muslim women, many friends, were targeted online on YouTube. They were auctioned for a rupee each. Their body parts being described in the most nauseating words. FIRs were filed. Outrage happened. But no action was taken even though the YouTube page is still in existence. The owner of the page is public knowledge. Their subscribers are still liking and sharing the page with zero impunity. After Sulli Deals, women were targeted on clubhouse, this time around Hindu women, who came in support of Muslim women during Sulli Deals. This was a live page where men came to the room and discussed women's body parts and placed bids. The fourth planned attack was the Bulli Bai app. This time it came as a New Year gift. Again, Bulli being a derogatory word for Muslim women. Other women and I had lodged FIRs during Sulli Deals, cooperating fully and using every platform available to us to speak, hoping that maybe one more push would do the trick. Maybe that one more article could convince someone to take some action. It was an almost desperate attempt. After all, women were being auctioned, sold; there was an attempt to take their dignity away from them. Surely, we would get the support we need. Six months and there was no progress. No attempt was made to try and catch the vile human beings who did this. There was zero intent. And that for me is unforgivable. If there was any action taken the first time in May when women were auctioned on YouTube, it would have set an example to the effect that this crime would not go unpunished. If it would have, almost 150 women would have been saved from unnecessary trauma. For myself and those women, I am angry. The anger was a constant. It has not left me. It will probably never leave me. I feel like I have been let down. It is almost cliché when I say it, women are supposedly revered in this country. ALSO READ | Another 'Sulli Deals'? Muslim women listed on app for 'auction', user 'Bulli Bai' blocked I have an ominous prediction. That if these culprits are not taken to task, this attempted humiliation will not stop at just Muslim women. Women who do not agree with a certain ideology, a certain mindset, or simply having an opinion that is different from someone will be very easily targeted. They would be targeted for simply existing. They will come for you. Maybe a little later. But they will. It is a given. There has been a recent development that has left me cautiously hopeful. The Mumbai Police has detained a suspect. I can just hope that this leads to a logical conclusion and the perpetrators are caught and jailed and the never-ending trauma of these six months is given some closure. (A commercial pilot, Hana Mohsin Khan was one of the victims in the Sulli Deals case.) SOURCE: https://www.indiatoday.in/news-analysis/story/discovering-yourself-sulli-deals-list-1895867-2022-01-04 Mariyam and Vancouver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coffee_rules Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) Apparently. only one side of the stories causes red and to outrage and not the other side Condemn both. Some juvenile antics getting mainstream coverage Edited January 4, 2022 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 who are they insinuating as "the woman from Uttarkhand" and linking it to last months conclave by a few Sadhus meeting? Seems like a bigger conspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Making what juveniles do almost everyday as faceless and nameless on Internet as a shame for an entire community. Everything is a national shame for these who cry wolves all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I mean these 18-20 year olds are misguided and probably need some sort of counseling and or punishment , but does this require national outrage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, urbestfriend said: I mean these 18-20 year olds are misguided and probably need some sort of counseling and or punishment , but does this require national outrage? This one wants Modi to say something about some isolated 18 year old's juve act and apologize to Muslims on their behalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 @coffee_rules None of the perpetrators are juveniles. Every single one of those booked so far are adults. Strangely, you seemed aghast at what Rana Ayub has to say more than the actual creep show that went on online. It's as if reaction to a crime and the 'global' outrage it causes offends you more than the crime in itself. In the words of a certain Arnab, your bias has been exposed. When the late General Rawat was martyred in a chopper crash, and some people (possibly juveniles) were sh1tposting all over their SM, many were outraged and wanted cancel campaigns against the perps. Why is this different? Vivek92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mariyam said: @coffee_rules None of the perpetrators are juveniles. Every single one of those booked so far are adults. Strangely, you seemed aghast at what Rana Ayub has to say more than the actual creep show that went on online. It's as if reaction to a crime and the 'global' outrage it causes offends you more than the crime in itself. In the words of a certain Arnab, your bias has been exposed. When the late General Rawat was martyred in a chopper crash, and some people (possibly juveniles) were sh1tposting all over their SM, many were outraged and wanted cancel campaigns against the perps. Why is this different? This is a fake auction site that everyone is outraging. Perps are being caught just because the victims are Muslim women. Outrage is media and SM by known toolkit operators to link these harkats to RW groups. This is a fake outrage machine just like the Church attacks and Nun rapes that keep propping now and then. Do you know how much filth goes on in Telegram , Facebook targeting Hindu women?. No Rana, Arfa or Swara to show any kind of sympathy for them and the perps are not even caught. Why target the whole Hindu community for a few bad apples? So much hatred is spread by Islamists that causes cases like blasphemy killings, ISIS style terrorists attacks, any finger pointing goes termed as Islamophobia. BTW, I said both sides of such acts should be condemned. India is full of selectivists outraging over only one side Edited January 6, 2022 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 This one wants Modi to say something about some isolated 18 year old's juve act and apologize to Muslims on their behalf So this anarchist wants modi to apologize on the behalf of some criminals? Rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 @coffee_rules I am afraid I am unable to understand your point. No one has blamed/targetted the wider Hindu community for any of this. At this point, I'd however like you to revisit the General Rawat chopper crash thread or reports of some Muslims bursting crackers thread when Pak beat us in that game to see what targetting an entire community looks like! What has hate spread by Islamists to do with this? Just FYI, the biggest target and victims of Islamists ( in India) are Muslim women, who have been suppressed and silenced for perpetuity by the likes of the AIMPLB. Back to this topic, are you saying that others aren't capable of hating on/denigerating Muslim women? Or that this shouldn't be highlighted at all?? Should it not make the news? You keep harping about Rana, Swara and Arfa. What have they to do with anything? Are they a gold standard in criminal jurisprudence? Perhaps it would make sense to consider an event separate from the reaction it draws from sections of the social media. EnterTheVoid and Vivek92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, Mariyam said: @coffee_rules I am afraid I am unable to understand your point. No one has blamed/targetted the wider Hindu community for any of this. You don't know then half the story of this outrage in the media about this whole fake auction saga and that is the reason for the OP. So, a celeb found herself in an auction site and complained to police and action was taken. But , in this case , there is a collective outrage in Western media as if the majority is out to get minority women. That kind of narrative is being set. There are 1000s of women who are targetted sexually abused on the Internet. Fake photoshopping of women and harass/blackmail them happens everywhere and it has to handled with the police. This kins of narrative setting is not on. 29 minutes ago, Mariyam said: At this point, I'd however like you to revisit the General Rawat chopper crash thread or reports of some Muslims bursting crackers thread when Pak beat us in that game to see what targetting an entire community looks like! Police took action and then there were questions being asked why did they had to be taken into custody? 29 minutes ago, Mariyam said: What has hate spread by Islamists to do with this? Because seeing the 18-20 year old being caught and sentenced to jail, it is claimed that this happens in a society where hate is spread by grownups and it affects the young minds to make them create auction sites. Is it comparable to the Islamists supremacy agenda where the result effect is terrorism? They don't speak of such a toxic environment , but outrage about a minor crime like this. This auction is online and fake. Compared to what happens in places like Hyderabad/Lucknow where poor Muslim girls get auctioned off by mullahs to Gulf Sheikhs, which is reality and happening. Can't these activists outrage over a real issue and a huge problem for Indians? 29 minutes ago, Mariyam said: . Back to this topic, are you saying that others aren't capable of hating on/denigerating Muslim women? Or that this shouldn't be highlighted at all?? Should it not make the news? I never said that. Women are subjected to these kinds of hate crimes and are the worst victims of abuse. It has to be handled and dealt it from a L&O point of view. Personally, it affects everybody. Every bit of it has to be made aware of in public. The selectivism is what causes the concern and it is divisive. 29 minutes ago, Mariyam said: You keep harping about Rana, Swara and Arfa. What have they to do with anything? Are they a gold standard in criminal jurisprudence? They are the ones that are setting the narrative for feminists world over, they get journalism and humanitarian awards of liberal institutions. They are not persona non gratas anymore. 29 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Perhaps it would make sense to consider an event separate from the reaction it draws from sections of the social media. Perhaps, but, It is intrinsic. All we discuss is on the media now and it has a perspective. Because we don't know so many people to form strong public opinions, we need to read about more and form opinions by experience of others. Earlier, we used to believe mainstream media to form opinions, reading newspapers was a daily habit like drinking your morning cup of coffee. SM has taken that space. diga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 'He Was on His Laptop All Day': Niraj Bishnoi's Father Claims Son is 'Innocent' Dashrath Bishnoi claimed that he never heard his son “make Islamophobic or sexist remarks.” SOMYA LAKHANI Published: 06 Jan 2022, 10:08 PM IST “My son would spend day and night on his laptop. I had no idea what was going on... I know he didn’t do what people are accusing him of,” said Dashrath Bishnoi, father of Niraj Bishnoi, the 21-year-old accused in the Bulli Bai case. Niraj was arrested from Assam's Jorhat on Wednesday night, 5 January, by the Delhi Police. DCP (Intelligence Fusion & Strategic Operations Unit) KPS Malhotra alleged that Niraj is the “main conspirator and creator of the Bulli Bai app on Github. Niraj disclosed that he created the Twitter handle @bullibai_ and other handles.” Niraj allegedly created the Bulli Bai app on Github, in which photographs of hundreds of Muslim women were misused. A Delhi-based journalist, whose photos were misused on the app, had filed a complaint, which was turned into a First Information Report (FIR) by the Delhi Police. Also Read Delhi Police Arrests 21-Yr-Old Bulli Bai 'Mastermind' Niraj Bishnoi in Assam Niraj’s father told The Quint, “He got a laptop from the Assam government when he scored 86% in class X, and since then, he is always on his laptop. He uses it to study. You can ask any of our neighbours in Jorhat; my son has a very good record.” The 21-year-old Niraj lives in Assam’s Jorhat with his parents and two elder sisters. Dashrath said that on Wednesday night, police showed up at their doorstep at 11 pm. “I was shocked. They asked me if Niraj lives here. I let them in, and then they took Niraj away. While leaving, my son didn’t say a word,” said the father, who moved to Assam from Rajasthan in the mid-‘80s. “I have worked hard my whole life just so I can educate my children. When the police was taking Niraj away, I abused him and told him that he has ruined the family name. I have no idea what is going on, but I know he didn’t do anything he is being accused of,” said Dashrath. Niraj is a second-year student of B.Tech (computer science) at Bhopal’s Vellore Institute of Technology(VIT). On Thursday, VIT’s vice-chancellor issued an order which stated that Niraj is “suspended with immediate effect from the university till further notice, in view of bringing disrepute to the University and defaming the name of the Institute.” Dashrath said that for the last three days, Niraj had seemed “pareshaan” (troubled). The father said, “He didn’t sleep on Tuesday night, and on Wednesday, he was in bed by 10 pm. Jab Police ghar aayi, mere pairo ke neeche se zameen hil gayi. No one has eaten anything at home all day today. We don’t know what we are supposed to do." Dashrath claimed that he never heard his son “make Islamophobic or sexist remarks.” Dashrath told The Quint that his son used to watch one news channel, and “maybe that had some impact on him… He stopped watching that channel a year ago, though.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 People may call it whataboutery, but another way to look at it is hypocrisy / silence from libtards ... This is more serious where a common woman cannot defend herself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 People may call it whataboutery, but another way to look at it is hypocrisy / silence from libtards ... This is more serious where a common woman cannot defend herself It's not whataboutery.Shekulars have long been using false equivalence to demonize sanatanis.Bindaas bolne ka.Time for rationalizing is passe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prakat Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 “He is a porn addict and he has also revealed it during interrogation about it. The data suggests that he has certain abnormal desires for women elder to him, from a certain age group, belonging to a certain community (Muslims),” the source quoted above claimed. Those who know Bishnoi personally, also claim him to be a “loner”, someone who is more active in the virtual world than in the real one ‘Suicidal’, ‘has no friends’ Sources in Delhi Police told ThePrint that Bishnoi displayed “abnormal behavioural traits” in his interaction with the police and has threatened to commit suicide multiple times since his arrest. “He has told the police that he will fatally hurt himself — cut his veins with a blade, hang himself to death,” the source mentioned above claimed. A second source added: “He doesn’t eat, has to be forced to eat. Today he skipped lunch. We had to order food from outside to feed him around 3.30 pm.” The probe so far has revealed that Bishnoi is addicted to the internet and his laptop, claimed sources. They also claimed that the 20-year-old is accustomed to creating fake accounts and user handles on social media platforms. “Bishnoi has said that he doesn’t talk to anyone much in the outside world, that he doesn’t like to talk to anyone and that he has no friends in the real world. His only interactions are under assumed names and identities in the virtual world. His day starts and ends with the internet and laptop,” the second source claimed. Police claims of the accused’s being a recluse are repeated by acquaintances who knew Bishnoi while he was a school student, and who spoke to ThePrint on condition of anonymity. All of them described the accused as a “loner”, someone who was used to staying “aloof” and “didn’t interact much with the outside world” since he was a teenager. “He has created his own virtual world around him,” claimed an acquaintance doesn’t want to be identified. Referring to another of the accused’s behavioural traits, the second police source claimed: “Whenever the interrogation hits a certain peak, he urinates in his pants. He has done this three-four times. We have checked if this is because he has a medical issue, but he doesn’t.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 7:36 AM, Prakat said: There is a constant narrative being built around the fiction that Muslim women need “saving”. Hence there is a constant effort to silence these women who just refuse to fit into their publicised versions of us. This is the core point of the whole article. an intelligent Muslim woman who wants to claim that some hate crime done against Muslim women is a criminal conspiracy to target normal Muslim women in order to further some larger agenda to prove that Muslim women are generally oppressed lol. cognitive dissonance low resolution. lot of Muslim women need saving as their culture in South Asia is very misogynistic. Truth does not need support of a conspiracy it will stand on its own. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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