Austin 3:!6 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: I hope he pulls it off... Best Pak PM ever from Indian perspective... Long live Imraand He is dissing India everywhere. Its a different story no one listens to him. But how is he best PM from Indian perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: He is dissing India everywhere. Its a different story no one listens to him. But how is he best PM from Indian perspective A PM who's just an english speaking shaved mullah... ex male escort in UK... Everywhere this moron goes he just talks Islam... But then most of the clergy(the real mullahs) are against him as their individual die hard followers are low class people who are suffering bcoz of inflation The future of Pakistan won't be anything different from Afghanistan... downward slide will continue Chances of an Iranian style Islamic revolution are there... but that too won't stop fragmentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuxiliA Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said: He is dissing India everywhere. Its a different story no one listens to him. But how is he best PM from Indian perspective He's an incapable administrater and a worse politician. Doesn't have a sense what a PM should and shouldn't say. Has no long term vision. Became PM only due to his hype and "chalo isko bhi try karte hai“. Just a few days back he tells the OIC, who were kind enough to come to Pak for a conference, that they are a "failed" organization and "no one takes them seriously" lol. Speaks more like a gully mohalla leader than a PM. His clown ministers are even worse. No wonder they fail at diplomacy so badly. Modi gives zero f*cks about him, Biden hasn't even had a single telephone call with him since becoming president. India 'annexed' Kashmir by removing A370, did Balakot strikes and he couldn't even do a thing. Even the Arab countries don't side with Pak on Kashmir now like they did in the past. He's an even bigger disaster on the economic front. Pak's currency crashed from 100 to 180 under him. Inflation went from 4% to 10+%. Nobody knows what happened to cpec. Their debt is at a record high. He's taking loans at ridiculously high interest rates. He even 'mortgaged' their Reserve bank to the IMF just to get a loan. Edited March 28, 2022 by AuxiliA ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Autonomous said: He is trying to pull off a bhutto with "foreign powers" conspiracy against him. He has no balls to take names of generals in front of a gujranwala crowd. The gujranwala speech by nawaz turned things around as no one expected such hardline stance. It was after that name of general faiz was discussed openly in punjab. maybe so - and obviously I do not follow Pakistan politics and events as closely as you do - but what did that 'stance' buy for Nawaz? He got ripped off in the election and has to sit in London trying to desperately groom his daughter into Benazir version 2. Which is probably on the cards for you guys in the coming years, but God knows what the outcomes will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Pak struggling doesn't necessarily work well for us. It might just mean few more fanatics blaming Endia for their ills which can't be a good thing. Edited March 28, 2022 by Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Must say, who needs democracy when you have this kind of drama on regular basis. So much intrigue and fun. Nobody care what happens to the people. Even the people themselves don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Clarke said: I don't expect fragmentation, a Shia Sunni divide could have lead to that but here that's not the case. The Punjabi generals will concede a thing or two to hold the nation together with the eastern experience in mind. With nukes in hand, a civil conflict will be an international headache and the west will want to stabilize that situation, ditto with China so as to continue having a proxy and irritant for India. In that sense, a sensible & stable Pak is better for us that can come to an agreement over Kashmir and coexist. I'm sure the akhand lobby doesn't agree :) Neither Pakistan ever be stable nor they will come to an agreement over Kashmir without force (war). AuxiliA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Pollack said: Neither Pakistan ever be stable nor they will come to an agreement over Kashmir without force (war). lets see hum dekhenge :) ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Clarke said: lets see hum dekhenge :) Hame bus ghabrana nahi hai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonomous Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, sandeep said: maybe so - and obviously I do not follow Pakistan politics and events as closely as you do - but what did that 'stance' buy for Nawaz? He got ripped off in the election and has to sit in London trying to desperately groom his daughter into Benazir version 2. Which is probably on the cards for you guys in the coming years, but God knows what the outcomes will be. The stance came after the elections of 2018. The dirt on establishmemt has lead to what imran khan refers to as neutrality. You can see "memes" on general faiz openly on pakistani facebook political pages, was this common two years back? No, it wsnt even existant. Edited March 28, 2022 by Autonomous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonomous Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pollack said: Hame bus ghabrana nahi hai. Ab to yeh bhosriwala lafz ghabrana nahi hai manhoos lagne laga hai sandeep, ravishingravi, AuxiliA and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 47 minutes ago, Clarke said: Pak struggling doesn't necessarily work well for us. It might just mean few more fanatics blaming Endia for their ills which can't be a good thing. I used to buy this argument as well - 'stable Pak in Indian interests'. Not the case. Of course, in the super long term yes -but in the immediate to short term - i.e. until there is a strong consensus in that country across the political and military spectrum, to avoid conflict with India, disavow terror and violence, to seek and maintain 'normal bilateral relations' with India as a priority - until this happens, it is most definitely not in Indian interests to have them 'not struggling'. Pakistani institutional track record is that any and all spare bandwidth is immediately deployed in attacking India. In that scenario, it is eminently sensible to deprive them of such 'bandwidth'. AuxiliA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, Autonomous said: The stance came after the elections of 2018. The dirt on establishmemt has lead to what imran khan refers to as neutrality. You can see "memes" on general faiz openly on pakistani facebook political pages, was this common two years back? No, it wsnt even existant. Bhai at any given moment in time, a journalist, a blogger, or even an elected member of Pakistani 'parliament' can be arrested and given 'danda' by PakMil mafia. Even Prime Ministers are not safe. So all this 'meme' business is just that, small potatoes. Reality is that the tough economic situation is responsible for folks finally speaking up - if things were better, nobody would care complain about 'stronkk army'. It all boils down to aloo-tamaatar. And unfortunately for pakmil mafia, they can't make things better - no generous uncles available this time around. hence lets look for scapegoats to blame - politicians are always there conveniently. Even Imran the "clean" one can be scapegoated to save PakMil from the responsibility and results of their kartoot. Whether its Imran, Nawaz, Bilawal, or any other clown - they are all just puppets being used for the 'show'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Frankly, my respect for Modiji has only increased with time. His assessment of people and opportunities is incredible. He knew that there is no point wasting his political capital on this man. He tried once with Nawaz and then pulled out once he realized that the ground reality works differently. We have effectively delinked from Pakistan completely. It was unimaginable few years ago. AuxiliA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dery Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Imran will win no confidence motion & complete his term. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Question to Pak friends, saw highlights of his speech on an Indian channel, unless missed important parts, what exactly was new in what he said which he didn’t say a 1000 times before? same old riyasat, opposition chor, endia, worldcup etc ? ravishingravi and Trichromatic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonomous Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, Dery said: Imran will win no confidence motion & complete his term. He is going. In sha Allah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonomous Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, maniac said: Question to Pak friends, saw highlights of his speech on an Indian channel, unless missed important parts, what exactly was new in what he said which he didn’t say a 1000 times before? same old riyasat, opposition chor, endia, worldcup etc ? new additions are neutral to janwar hota hai and foreign sazish against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Autonomous said: foreign sazish against him If a sitting PM is saying that, isn’t that a big issue when foregin powers are trying to get you while you are technically a democratically elected Prime Minister? that usually is considered an act of war if foreign countries are conspiring against leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonomous Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, maniac said: If a sitting PM is saying that, isn’t that a big issue when foregin powers are trying to get you while you are technically a democratically elected Prime Minister? that usually is considered an act of war if foreign countries are conspiring against leadership. No one takes him seriously except youthiyas and overseas pakistanis, both are assholes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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