Bumrah ruled out of Asia Cup

[Nikhil_cric]

On 8/8/2022 at 11:39 PM, express bowling said:

 

 

Most quick pacers get far more injuries than Bumrah does.

 

Look at Rabada, Starc, Nortje, Archer, etc. Cummins was very injury prone too. 

They get injured for different reasons though.  Rabada and Starc got back injuries for bowling too much at a high pace before the age of 24. 

 

Bumrah has the least efficient action of all the names mentioned and his injuries are a direct consequence of this  .

[Need4Speed]

14 hours ago, nitinbwj said:

Umran Malik was bowling 150 + every ball in IPL. Cut to Internationals and he started bowling 140s and thereabouts.  His pace factor reduced to dust. Someone in the TM or everyone screwed with his mind

 

could also be lower confidence\rythm..or not used to relatively colder weather too :D

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

could also be lower confidence\rythm..or not used to relatively colder weather too :D

high chance its that and nerves 

[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

high chance its that and nerves 

 

Big stage effect.   For a genuine fast bowler he has reasonable control at high speeds. Just that he has to add a bit more thinking to his bowling and how to make the most out of his pace.

[neel roy]

Sad but true. With it gone our chances in flat australian decks.. he made his debut there if you all remember and in first match itself cemented his position forever..

 

https://www.icccricketschedule.com/jasprit-bumrah-likely-to-miss-out-on-the-icc-t20-world-cup-2022-due-to-back-injury-reports-big-blow-for-indian-team/

 

Think Shami should be brought in

[Ankit_sharma03]

11 hours ago, neel roy said:

Sad but true. With it gone our chances in flat australian decks.. he made his debut there if you all remember and in first match itself cemented his position forever..

 

https://www.icccricketschedule.com/jasprit-bumrah-likely-to-miss-out-on-the-icc-t20-world-cup-2022-due-to-back-injury-reports-big-blow-for-indian-team/

 

Think Shami should be brought in

have always struggled in international t20 

need to throw siraj-mohsin-nattu in the mix (nattu if fit ,which i dont think he is )

Bumrah is an all phase bowler-all condition bowler need to have that 

[Frustrated]

Icc tournaments are not imp.   Getting ready just b4 the I Pee L is more imp.  

[neel roy]

55 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

have always struggled in international t20 

need to throw siraj-mohsin-nattu in the mix (nattu if fit ,which i dont think he is )

Bumrah is an all phase bowler-all condition bowler need to have that 

nattu mohsin hasnt played intl matches recently. Of the guys who have played we have shami shardul umran siraj and prasidh. So its a toss up between these 5 who should be in.. Avesh arshdeep bhuvi pandya anyways confirmed. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, neel roy said:

nattu mohsin hasnt played intl matches recently. Of the guys who have played we have shami shardul umran siraj and prasidh. So its a toss up between these 5 who should be in.. Avesh arshdeep bhuvi pandya anyways confirmed. 

they will in the lead up to Wc as games are left. Nattu yes is subject to fitness and yea their we can say lack of rhythem as well 

Selecting wrong bowlers like shami-prasidh is not even the right way to began . Umran is also not the right replacement to bumrah as he is just a one phase bowler infact even shami-prasidh arent all phase bowlers 

To replace bumrah we need an all phase bowler 

[Jay]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

they will in the lead up to Wc as games are left. Nattu yes is subject to fitness and yea their we can say lack of rhythem as well 

Selecting wrong bowlers like shami-prasidh is not even the right way to began . Umran is also not the right replacement to bumrah as he is just a one phase bowler infact even shami-prasidh arent all phase bowlers 

To replace bumrah we need an all phase bowler 

Only one close to bumrah level now is siraj. He can be very expensive but. 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, neel roy said:

Avesh arshdeep bhuvi pandya anyways confirmed. 

Avesh ill say is on thin ice........yes he has full support of captain coach but if he keeps having so many bad games then it wud be tough 

Deepak chahar if he proves form n fitness will lock his place as bhuvi backup

 

But if harshal & bumrah doesnt get fit in time it ll be a problem, even if one gets fit it ll be great 

[Lone Wolf]

Somehow feels Bumrah out won't have a big effect on us.  He hasn't done all that well on bigger stage for us when we desperately need him.  

I'll somehow like us to throw Siraj in the mix.  He is mercurial & sometimes that's what u need in big tourneys.  He has the ability to go bang bang with the new ball all of a sudden.  Lil bit of Wagner in him.  A better captain in Rohit might get the best outta him. 

Here's hoping he has a killer Zim series...  Too late for likes of Mohsin or Umran thanks to braindead selectors.  Nattu is barely a serviceable death bowler even he was not too impressive for SRH this year.  New ball meh.  D Chahar has a better CV than him. 

 

[neel roy]

On 8/12/2022 at 4:50 PM, Lone Wolf said:

Somehow feels Bumrah out won't have a big effect on us.  He hasn't done all that well on bigger stage for us when we desperately need him.  

I'll somehow like us to throw Siraj in the mix.  He is mercurial & sometimes that's what u need in big tourneys.  He has the ability to go bang bang with the new ball all of a sudden.  Lil bit of Wagner in him.  A better captain in Rohit might get the best outta him. 

Here's hoping he has a killer Zim series...  Too late for likes of Mohsin or Umran thanks to braindead selectors.  Nattu is barely a serviceable death bowler even he was not too impressive for SRH this year.  New ball meh.  D Chahar has a better CV than him. 

 

i actually liked Siraj s maturity now. Not the old leaker of runs. Think back to the first odi against windies. Last over. He nailed 5 yorkers and defended 10 odd runs.. he was pretty good.. 

[Lone Wolf]

29 minutes ago, neel roy said:

i actually liked Siraj s maturity now. Not the old leaker of runs. Think back to the first odi against windies. Last over. He nailed 5 yorkers and defended 10 odd runs.. he was pretty good.. 

He found reverse by bowling 140+ there...  Nobody except Joseph managed to do that. 

Also swing with the new ball in Third odi on those ultra slow flat decks.  In England 3rd ODI too.  Thank god he has ditched his non sense cross seam balls. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

He found reverse by bowling 140+ there...  Nobody except Joseph managed to do that. 

Also swing with the new ball in Third odi on those ultra slow flat decks.  In England 3rd ODI too.  Thank god he has ditched his non sense cross seam balls. 

he is the most skillfull bowler in the country..............he shud crack all formats-all conditions 

Bowled very well in all phases last 2 ipl before this one , infact in one them his yorker execution was better then bumrah. This IPL just ruined his chances or else he is an all phase bowler 

If bumrah is not fit he is well worth a shot...........i can understand TM concern as the day he doesnt get it right he leaks runs like anything

[Lone Wolf]

54 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he is the most skillfull bowler in the country..............he shud crack all formats-all conditions 

Bowled very well in all phases last 2 ipl before this one , infact in one them his yorker execution was better then bumrah. This IPL just ruined his chances or else he is an all phase bowler 

If bumrah is not fit he is well worth a shot...........i can understand TM concern as the day he doesnt get it right he leaks runs like anything

He is not a containing bowler for sure.  And ideally a two phase bowler for me.  At the Top & at the death.  He will provide wickets up front & can nail yorkers at death.  He usually leaks runs in those middle phases due to lack of role clarity. 

Under Rohit he may finally crack the T20 code coz as u said he has the skill set. 

[neel roy]

49 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

He is not a containing bowler for sure.  And ideally a two phase bowler for me.  At the Top & at the death.  He will provide wickets up front & can nail yorkers at death.  He usually leaks runs in those middle phases due to lack of role clarity. 

Under Rohit he may finally crack the T20 code coz as u said he has the skill set. 

The only thing which will come to him gradually is calmness. He gets agitated too easily and starts bowling crap. This is where Bumrah and rabada are masters. They are never flustered. Siraj needs to sit down with a mental conditioning coach. Zaheer khan publicly acknowledged paddy uptons work with him and his inputs. The first 5 overs in 2003 and 2011 was the difference..

[Jay]

On 8/13/2022 at 1:50 AM, Lone Wolf said:

Somehow feels Bumrah out won't have a big effect on us.  He hasn't done all that well on bigger stage for us when we desperately need him.  

I'll somehow like us to throw Siraj in the mix.  He is mercurial & sometimes that's what u need in big tourneys.  He has the ability to go bang bang with the new ball all of a sudden.  Lil bit of Wagner in him.  A better captain in Rohit might get the best outta him. 

Here's hoping he has a killer Zim series...  Too late for likes of Mohsin or Umran thanks to braindead selectors.  Nattu is barely a serviceable death bowler even he was not too impressive for SRH this year.  New ball meh.  D Chahar has a better CV than him. 

 

Siraj was already in his peak level 3 years back. *ing moron management misused him and many others yet again.

 

2 seasons of ranji is plenty prep along with A tours for an early national team selection call. 

 

*ing useless management. 

[Jay]

36 minutes ago, neel roy said:

The only thing which will come to him gradually is calmness. He gets agitated too easily and starts bowling crap. This is where Bumrah and rabada are masters. They are never flustered. Siraj needs to sit down with a mental conditioning coach. Zaheer khan publicly acknowledged paddy uptons work with him and his inputs. The first 5 overs in 2003 and 2011 was the difference..

Bumrah in t20 WC events has bowled crap multile times in crucial stages. 

Also failed in 2017 champions trophy. 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Bumrah in t20 WC events has bowled crap multile times in crucial stages. 

Also failed in 2017 champions trophy. 

I remember Liton Das putting him to sword in that Asia Cup final in 2018.  He looked short of ideas back then.  Big occasions haven't been very kind to him.  Feels like being the leader of attack isn't really kind of his thing.