Prabhdeep Singh Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: 2-2 rohit ? maniac ka wet dream Lol I meant Kohli But Rohit should definitely retire from T20 internationals after this world cup. Concentrate on ODI/Test. coffee_rules 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, rkt.india said: We don't have 11 world class T20 players. Dont think any team around the world has that and thats the last thought u shud have while selecting a team. Select whatever best u have , at the end luck does play a role and we have seen many times in IPL that teams with many match winners have gone nowhere as compare to the ones with avg or utility players . Also in t20 right skillset are enough even if u lack quality which becomes important for longer formats . Edited October 6, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03
Stan AF Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 BTW, It pains me to say that Rohit should really concentrate on losing a few pounds. For more than a year his shot making has been cramped by his lack of swift movement that is needed for an opener and it has already translated into a string of not so great scores in white ball formats. It's beyond time that he looks into that aspect of his game if he wants to stay in the team for the few years ahead that he may have in the team. sandeep 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Prabhdeep Singh said: Lol I meant Kohli But Rohit should definitely retire from T20 internationals after this world cup. Concentrate on ODI/Test. yes he shud
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Majestic said: Rohit Pant Kohli SKY Pandya DK Axar D Chahar Arshdeep Bumrah Yuzi Ruled out 10 hours ago, Majestic said: Rest: KL Bishnoi Mohsin Bhuvi Unfit Read the rules, u cant select unfit players Stan AF 1
coffee_rules Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: yes he shud Kohli Too. At least T20s. DK will retire anyway
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 9 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Kohli Too. At least T20s. DK will retire anyway yea kohli n DK too
zen Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) Btw, Moshin is not unfit. He could have been played v SA (esp. in the series after IPL) too. Below are selectors giving excuses: "However, Mohsin's dodgy hamstring made the decision easier for Chetan Sharma's committee, which also picked Arshdeep especially for his death overs bowling for Punjab Kings." 1st, it should not have been Moshin v Umran (both can be played) 2nd, to "justify" Mohsin's exclusion, the selectors talked about "dodgy" hamstring (in a way, assuming that he could become unfit because his hamstring is seen as "dodgy" per past issues rather than looking at his current fitness) 3rd, went with rewarding players who did well in IPL in earlier seasons like Arshdeep, who is not in the league of Moshin, who has a relatively higher ceiling Below GG, LSG's mentor, on Moshin: "The last match of Super-4 was played between India and Afghanistan on Thursday. In which the Indian team performed brilliantly with the bat and then the ball, defeating the Afghan team by 101 runs. Meanwhile, there was also discussion about the T20 World Cup to be held in Australia, in which Gautam, while giving his opinion, said that he wants to keep left-arm fast bowler Mohsin Khan in the team. Let us tell you that Mohsin was part of the Lucknow Super Giants team in this year’s IPL." Edited October 6, 2022 by zen express bowling 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, zen said: Btw, Moshin is not unfit. He could have been played v SA (esp. in the series after IPL) too. Below are selectors giving excuses: "However, Mohsin's dodgy hamstring made the decision easier for Chetan Sharma's committee, which also picked Arshdeep especially for his death overs bowling for Punjab Kings." 1st, it should not have been Moshin v Umran (both can be played) 2nd, to "justify" Mohsin's exclusion, the selectors talked about "dodgy" hamstring (in a way, assuming that he could become unfit because his hamstring is seen as "dodgy" per past issues rather than looking at his current fitness) 3rd, went with rewarding players who did well in IPL in earlier seasons like Arshdeep, who is not in the league of Moshin, who has a relatively higher ceiling Below GG, LSG's mentor, on Moshin: "The last match of Super-4 was played between India and Afghanistan on Thursday. In which the Indian team performed brilliantly with the bat and then the ball, defeating the Afghan team by 101 runs. Meanwhile, there was also discussion about the T20 World Cup to be held in Australia, in which Gautam, while giving his opinion, said that he wants to keep left-arm fast bowler Mohsin Khan in the team. Let us tell you that Mohsin was part of the Lucknow Super Giants team in this year’s IPL." Get a better proof , this is totally rubbish Atleast his injury has been confirmed by 2 sports journalist and he has an insta post from NCA
zen Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Get a better proof , this is totally rubbish Atleast his injury has been confirmed by 2 sports journalist and he has an insta post from NCA Players don’t go to NCA just because they are injured. For e.g. Bhuvi & SDP are at NCA too. Tomorrow selectors can say that they have not picked Sundar because he has a dodgy fitness (based on past injury record) despite him being fit. I don’t trust Indian set up. “Dodgy” is not confirmation of injury. Why don’t you provide better proof that he is injured (and has been since the last IPL game?) Edited October 6, 2022 by zen
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 9 hours ago, zen said: Players don’t go to NCA just because they are injured. For e.g. Bhuvi & SDP are at NCA too. Tomorrow selectors can say that they have not picked Sundar because he has a dodgy fitness (based on past injury record) despite him being fit. I don’t trust Indian set up. Why don’t you provide better proof that he is injured (and has been since the last IPL game?) unless u have other thing to prove u gotta believe whats out their, atleast we know hardik n bhuvi arent injured Only info regd mohsin is he is injured and selector wont gain anything by lying about him
zen Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: unless u have other thing to prove u gotta believe whats out their, atleast we know hardik n bhuvi arent injured Only info regd mohsin is he is injured and selector wont gain anything by lying about him What is out there? “Dodgy” is not a confirmation of injury. GG spoke about including Moshin. Give proper details regarding his injury. express bowling 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 9 hours ago, zen said: What is out there? “Dodgy” is not a confirmation of injury. GG spoke about including Moshin. Give proper details regarding his injury. likha to hai nursing hanstring
zen Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: likha to hai nursing hanstring Don’t buy it as hamstrung itself has various grades. Don’t recall an incident where he was ruled out after IPL for a long time (IPL ended in May, so it is 4 months now). Was he in NCA in May? Why did the selectors/TM did not focus on getting him fit w/ the WC in Oct? … GG spoke about including him during Asia Cup. Edited October 6, 2022 by zen
coffee_rules Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, zen said: Don’t buy it as hamstrung itself has various grades. Don’t recall an incident where he was ruled out after IPL for a long time (IPL ended in May, so it is 4 months now). GG spoke about including him during Asia Cup. https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/ind-vs-sa-2022-3-players-might-picked-india-s-squad-south-africa-odi-series-injured
express bowling Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, zen said: What is out there? “Dodgy” is not a confirmation of injury. GG spoke about including Moshin. Give proper details regarding his injury. That dodgy hamstring article was an old one and not from any official source. And it was probably recycled again later on as an excuse.when trundlers started faltering. I will assume that is player is fit until I get some official confirmation of a break-inducing injury. Fast bowlers are always carrying small niggles anyway. raki05 and Mosher 1 1
zen Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, express bowling said: That dodgy hamstring article was an old one and not from any official source. And it was probably recycled again later on as an excuse.when trundlers started faltering. I will assume that is player is fit until I get some official confirmation of a break-inducing injury. Fast bowlers are always carrying small niggles anyway. Exactly! If Moshin was injured in May (and selectors/TM that impressed, he should have been in NCA straight away. They also unnecessarily made it Umran v Moshin). When Bumrah had a back injury, he was practically out. But we were seeing unnecessary comment where he still had a chance (maybe to provide hope to fools who take everything at face value). Moshin’s case is likely to be mishandled. Edited October 6, 2022 by zen Mosher and express bowling 2
zen Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) To further highlight the untrustworthiness of Indian cricket set up: Article published on May 22nd - Link - "However, Mohsin's dodgy hamstring made the decision easier for Chetan Sharma's committee, which also picked Arshdeep especially for his death overs bowling for Punjab Kings." The squad for the 5 T20Is series against SA was announced on May 22nd - Link On May 25th, Moshin actually played the eliminator v RCB: Link ... and in the game (the last for LSG): BOWLING O M R W ECON 0s 4s 6s WD NB Mohsin Khan 4 0 25 1 6.25 13 1 1 1 0 Dushmantha Chameera 4 0 54 0 13.50 7 8 2 0 1 Krunal Pandya 4 0 39 1 9.75 4 4 1 1 0 Avesh Khan 4 0 44 1 11.00 10 6 1 2 0 Ravi Bishnoi 4 0 45 1 11.25 8 2 4 1 0 Proved to be the best bowler for LSG in a high scoring game! (And selectors did not pick him citing "dodgy" hamstring concern in a squad selected 3 days before this game)! PS like Arshdeep, Avesh was probably picked also considering his "past" IPL performances ... If IPL based selections have to have a meaning, we have to pick players currently displaying the best form. Edited October 6, 2022 by zen
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) RGS (c) Shaw SKY Pant (wk) Hooda Pandya (vc) DK Axar Chahar Siraj Sen 12th: Bishnoi @Ankit_sharma03 Mere ko kitna number mila? Edited October 7, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict
express bowling Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, zen said: Exactly! If Moshin was injured in May (and selectors/TM that impressed, he should have been in NCA straight away. They also unnecessarily made it Umran v Moshin). When Bumrah had a back injury, he was practically out. But we were seeing unnecessary comment where he still had a chance (maybe to provide hope to fools who take everything at face value). Moshin’s case has been mishandled. Having observed Indian selectors for years and years, they almost surely decided their first choice 11 and their backups, well in advance, probably just after the IPL ended. By looking at the T20I games played before the World Cup, especially the Asia Cup and the 2 series that followed, it was quite apparent that .... The first choice bowlers almost surely were 7. Jadeja 8. Harshal 9. Bhuvi 10. Bumrah 11. Chahal Backups 7. Axar 8. Deepak C 9. Arshdeep / Deepak C 10. Avesh 11. Bishnoi / Kuldeep And being happy that they have made a fool proof plan with backups, they tried and tested mostly these bowlers only. The fallacies of this plan are IMO .... 1. The playing conditions in Australia were largely ignored while selecting this group of pacers. We have no tall hit the deck pacer in the squad whereas we should have had 2 or 3. 2. They did not question whether the first choice bowlers should be automatic choices, especially in Austrslia. They were chosen because they are the established bowlers for T20Is. 3. Whether like for like backups of the original choices were indeed needed or whether they could better the quality of those backups. and the bowling composition as a result. 4. With Bumrah getting injured in England, they should have created atleast 2 backups for this position as Avesh was untested and could fail. 5. Rohit said that, for Bumrah's replacement, they want someone who has experience of playing in Australia. So, why was Avesh tried for so many matches ? 6. Who is Axar's backup now ? Edited October 7, 2022 by express bowling Mosher, coffee_rules, raki05 and 2 others 1 4
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