Is DK being persisted with due to Pandya's inability to hit quality pace bowling?

[vvvslaxman]

12 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Can't have Pandya as 5th bowler. We need 6th bowling option to squeeze in 1-2 overs

 

Since Pandya can't accelerate against pacers and Axar looks more like no.8 Indian batting stops at 4. The day we lose Kohli and SKY early we will be in deep trouble.

[Lord]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Since Pandya can't accelerate against pacers and Axar looks more like no.8 Indian batting stops at 4. The day we lose Kohli and SKY early we will be in deep trouble.

 

Hopefully Pant can lend some depth instead of DK.

 

Pandya can be used better v spin

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Hopefully Pant can lend some depth instead of DK.

 

Pandya can be used better v spin

 

or Hooda in place of Axar. Hooda should have been used as a bowler lot more. I think he did bowl in western australia game. Hooda is any day better than Axar as a batsman and fielder

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

or Hooda in place of Axar. Hooda should have been used as a bowler lot more. I think he did bowl in western australia game. Hooda is any day better than Axar as a batsman and fielder

Hooda isnt even a 6th bowling option. Didnt bowl v SA. Specially with Ashwin he won't bowl.So might as well play a better bat.

 

Axar can be replaced by Harshal only

 

 

[AuxiliA]

10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Since Pandya can't accelerate against pacers and Axar looks more like no.8 Indian batting stops at 4. The day we lose Kohli and SKY early we will be in deep trouble.

 

6 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Hopefully Pant can lend some depth instead of DK.

 

Pandya can be used better v spin

 

Play Pant in place of Axar, who has hardly bowled or contributed in any way till now. 

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, Lord said:

Hooda isnt even a 6th bowling option. Didnt bowl v SA. Specially with Ashwin he won't bowl.So might as well play a better bat.

 

Axar can be replaced by Harshal only

 

 

 

Hooda played on a fast perth Pitch where spinners absolutely had no rule. Not even Ashwin. He would have bowled at Adelaide oval.

[vvvslaxman]

Bottomline is Indian batting is very light. Arshdeep is having a dream run. On a flat patta where ball doesn't swing we will be either chasing 180 or defending 170 with light weight batting unit.

[Lord]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Hooda played on a fast perth Pitch where spinners absolutely had no rule. Not even Ashwin. He would have bowled at Adelaide oval.

How much did he bowl in Asia Cup or in England or even in India.

 

Has bowled 6 overs in 13 games. Not a genuine bowling option. Might as well have Virat rolling his arm over.

 

And batting doesn't look good enough for these conditions as well, specially v pace

[Lord]

8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Bottomline is Indian batting is very light. Arshdeep is having a dream run. On a flat patta where ball doesn't swing we will be either chasing 180 or defending 170 with light weight batting unit.

 

on such flat patta, batting should be able to hold itself well. 

 

Batting atleast on paper in stronger than bowling. We are not missing a big gun in batting like Bumrah in bowling.

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, Lord said:

How much did he bowl in Asia Cup or in England or even in India.

 

Has bowled 6 overs in 13 games. Not a genuine bowling option. Might as well have Virat rolling his arm over.

 

And batting doesn't look good enough for these conditions as well, specially v pace

 

He played one game where pretty much everyone looked hopeless.  Until i saw Josh little here i also thought Hooda was just bashing some random Ireland bowler. He actually played Josh Little better than some of the players here.

[Norman]

We missed a big big trick by not giving enough chances to Venky Iyer. Don't know why they just discarded him and forgot about his existence. Our balance is all messed up now thanks to Jadeja's absence. We are light either in batting or bowling , depending on who we pick out of Hooda/Axar.

 

This whole notion of playing someone only as someone's "backup" is absolutely ridiculous. We could have definitely afforded another seam all rounder especially in Australia. And V Iyer would have brought the left handed aspect as well. Hooda's hundred against Ireland may just have fukcked up our team balance.. speaking in hindsight. 

[Majestic]

Hooda can bowl a couple of overs but problem is Indian TM have no clue of how to use his bowling when the primary spinner is Ashwin in the XI. They use Ashwin in the middle overs and bowl him out in search of wicket. By that time, we are into 15-16th over and then you can't bring Hooda. So, play Chahal and Hooda in my opinion.

[Bigg Brother]

I have always maintained that Pandya is not number 5. A specialist batter has to play at 5 and if DK is that batter then he should be played at that number. Atleast should have tried DK at 5 in the useless Bilateral series in India before coming to wt20. If he is not good enough to play at 5 then he isn't good enough to play in XI. A proper batter at 5 is must. Also if they really wanted Left arm darter who can bat a bit in place of Jaddu, Krunal wasnt bad pick. Him over Axar anyday. Better bat than Axar and similar bowling. This is big * up by TM. 

Edited November 5, 2022 by Bigg Brother

[Lord]

23 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He played one game where pretty much everyone looked hopeless.  Until i saw Josh little here i also thought Hooda was just bashing some random Ireland bowler. He actually played Josh Little better than some of the players here.

those were pattas where even Ireland almost chased 225

 

Plus those innings came at top of the order. No spot vacant there

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, Norman said:

We missed a big big trick by not giving enough chances to Venky Iyer. Don't know why they just discarded him and forgot about his existence. Our balance is all messed up now thanks to Jadeja's absence. We are light either in batting or bowling , depending on who we pick out of Hooda/Axar.

 

This whole notion of playing someone only as someone's "backup" is absolutely ridiculous. We could have definitely afforded another seam all rounder especially in Australia. And V Iyer would have brought the left handed aspect as well. Hooda's hundred against Ireland may just have fukcked up our team balance.. speaking in hindsight. 

 

Thakur , venky iyer  both could have been included.  Harshal 24 ball slow ball specialist for whatever reason is permanently on the bench. Why pick him? 

[Majestic]

Just now, Lord said:

those were pattas where even Ireland almost chased 225

 

Plus those innings came at top of the order. No spot vacant there

And small grounds too.

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, Lord said:

those were pattas where even Ireland almost chased 225

 

Plus those innings came at top of the order. No spot vacant there

 

At the SCG all the pakistan hacks made hay against South african bowling. Because it was a patta. ball coming on nicely. I guarantee Axar can't bat like that there.   Especially with spin coming on we need multiple hitters.  

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

At the SCG all the pakistan hacks made hay against South african bowling. Because it was a patta. ball coming on nicely. I guarantee Axar can't bat like that there.   Especially with spin coming on we need multiple hitters.  

We can't go with 5 bowlers on such tracks. Hooda wouldn't be a bowling option.

 

If not Axar we can try Harshal at 8. Alongwith Pant instead of DK

[SM2907]

Unless last game has changed TMs kind, DK is getting tomorrows game and any further games we get in the tournament. He has not come good as a hitter may be because of the bigger grounds. So we can use his batting at no 5. He can anchor in the middle if needed. Pandya should drop down to 6.  The batting looks better this way. 

[Majestic]

@zen, how long should we wait for Pandya to produce that one special batting performance in a big game vs any of the top team in winning cause?

 

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