coffee_rules Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Apologies for the click-bait title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 I can think of a zombie movie plot that turns humans to zombies after eating synthetic meat for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevada Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Is this different than what beyond and impossible burgers are currently providing? Some of the non vegetarians who want to go cruelty free might be interested in trying them out. I am a vegetarian since 2020 March, but I never ate beef, so I don't feel any interest in trying this Clean meat steak. maniac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed_thrills Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 So far I have eaten Lamb Goat Chicken Turkey Cow Pig Camel Crocodile Frog But not going to eat any stem. Lord and Khota 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, nevada said: Is this different than what beyond and impossible burgers are currently providing? Some of the non vegetarians who want to go cruelty free might be interested in trying them out. I am a vegetarian since 2020 March, but I never ate beef, so I don't feel any interest in trying this Clean meat steak. No it’s different. Impossible burgers are plant-based and some induced organic material. This steak is from cultured stem-cells , lab-grown cultivated meat. It!s almost real meat. Bill Gates is invested heavily in this industry as it reduces green-housing gases from cow-farming and good for the environment. It’s Woke Meat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, speed_thrills said: So far I have eaten Lamb Goat Chicken Turkey Cow Pig Camel Crocodile Frog But not going to eat any stem. Am a veggie since 2015. Tried all in that list except for last three. Frog - how does it taste? Pardon me, it’s repulsive. Yes, will never eat stem-cells and will avoid interacting socially with people who do eat it. Pata nahin kab bookh lage aur mujhe hi khana samjhe! nevada and dial_100 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 I remember following clean meat from early days (still early days), coming across n being proud of a fellow Indian Uma Valeti of 'Memphis meats'.. also remember citations of polls where 90% of non-veg people willing/eager to try this out ... My background: ate non-veg till age 10 , after that, could not make myself eat it due to animal suffering... non-vegetarians have solid arguments but Dil to dil hi hai...i never missed non-veg food. ..i want to go vegan but unable to give up dairy products as of now. dial_100, coffee_rules, ravishingravi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevada Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: No it’s different. Impossible burgers are plant-based and some induced organic material. This steak is from cultured stem-cells , lab-grown cultivated meat. It!s almost real meat. Bill Gates is invested heavily in this industry as it reduces green-housing gases from cow-farming and good for the environment. It’s Woke Meat! Yikes! Sounds fugly, just like that wannabe messiah Hell's Gates. dial_100 and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Hmm. I would be open to trying. dial_100 and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed_thrills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 17 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Am a veggie since 2015. Tried all in that list except for last three. Frog - how does it taste? Pardon me, it’s repulsive. Yes, will never eat stem-cells and will avoid interacting socially with people who do eat it. Pata nahin kab bookh lage aur mujhe hi khana samjhe! Frog meat in stew form is a regular delicacy in Philippines. Once the feeling of repulsiveness is overcome then it tastes good. Next I am planning to try out thie. https://www.vergemagazine.com/volunteer-abroad/blogs/1125-ugandan-grasshopper-season.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 18 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Am a veggie since 2015. Tried all in that list except for last three. Frog - how does it taste? Pardon me, it’s repulsive. Yes, will never eat stem-cells and will avoid interacting socially with people who do eat it. Pata nahin kab bookh lage aur mujhe hi khana samjhe! I had tasted frog recently in Chinese restaurant. I can safely say, I felt a little weird afterwards. Having not tasted meat for best part of my life, frog and Rabbit were bridge too far for me. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, speed_thrills said: Frog meat in stew form is a regular delicacy in Philippines. Once the feeling of repulsiveness is overcome then it tastes good. Next I am planning to try out thie. https://www.vergemagazine.com/volunteer-abroad/blogs/1125-ugandan-grasshopper-season.html Have you tried Balut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) How cow grow? From stem cells, of course. Pig get big? Stem cells, of course. Chicken thicken? Stem cells, of course. Every cell in any animal's body (or plant's body, or mushroom's body) comes from a stem cell. Just underneath your skin surface, there are billions of stem cells making new cells every day. Everything you have eaten in your whole life started off as a stem cell. When we eat meat, we mostly consume muscle fibres. Every muscle fibre of a chicken, goat, hog, cattle etc. came from a stem cell. In other words, the food-animal's body is simply a factory that takes in plants, breaks them down, and converts them to muscle fibres. Which you eat. Specific chemicals within the body direct the stem cells to become nerve or muscle or whatever. But these factories also feel pain and have eyes and ears and noses like we do, and so tug at our emotional strings. They also belch and fart and piss and poop. All that these scientists are doing is taking the same stem cells, putting them with the same growth chemicals that produce muscle fibres in the animal's body, but place them in a pain-free, belch-less, fart-less, piss-less, poop-less, bacteria-less container. And voila - muscle! So, if someone approaches vegetarianism from an animal-welfare ethos, this is great option for them. It's the same thing, minus the pain inflicted. Here's another company that is on the cusp of bringing lab-grown meat to market: Uma Valeti's Upside Foods Another related company: Ryan Pandya and Perumal Gandhi's Perfect Day Cell-Based Dairy - Real milk, no cow. Edited November 25, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Horses and donkeys and elephants were our vehicles. Then we fabricated moving machines with metal. We don't need animals to transport us anymore. Similarly, cows and pigs and chickens and goats are food-processing machines. If we can fabricate alternative food-processing machines like we fabricated vehicles for transport, why not? Edited November 25, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Horses and donkeys and elephants were our vehicles. Then we fabricated moving machines with metal. We don't need animals to transport us anymore. Similarly, cows and pigs and chickens and goats are food-processing machines. If we can fabricate alternative food-processing machines like we fabricated vehicles for transport, why not? Don’t trust the establishment that synthesized a deadly disease in lab, this synthetic meat might reveal a side-effect after years of consumption. No argument that it is the best option for animals. They can avoid getting killed. But safety of humans is paramount for humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Don’t trust the establishment that synthesized a deadly disease in lab, this synthetic meat might reveal a side-effect after years of consumption. No argument that it is the best option for animals. They can avoid getting killed. But safety of humans is paramount for humanity. Hmm ... who turned you into an ultra-liberal, anti-technology luddite, Anna? WADR, your post sounds like those who said the same thing about genetic engineering of agricultural crops, and to date (30 yrs), not a single death has been caused by putting genes in plants. Cell-cultured meat is not synthetic in that the same chemicals that the chicken or pig or cow's body is using are also being used to grow the stem cells into muscle fibers. If anything, this technology will be safer from a contamination perspective and prevent infection of millions of humans from food-borne pathogens that fester in animal-dung. What is unknown is how these factories can be used by unscrupulous people - someone can come in and pour some natural venom into the growth containers and poison a whole population. Like making car bombs or crashing airplanes deliberately. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Hmm ... who turned you into an ultra-liberal, anti-technology luddite, Anna? WADR, your post sounds like those who said the same thing about genetic engineering of agricultural crops, and to date (30 yrs), not a single death has been caused by putting genes in plants. Cell-cultured meat is not synthetic in that the same chemicals that the chicken or pig or cow's body is using are also being used to grow the stem cells into muscle fibers. If anything, this technology will be safer from a contamination perspective and prevent infection of millions of humans from food-borne pathogens that fester in animal-dung. What is unknown is how these factories can be used by unscrupulous people - someone can come in and pour some natural venom into the growth containers and poison a whole population. Like making car bombs or crashing airplanes deliberately. GMO on plants is still plant genes and modified artificially from natural genes. Stem-cells in organisms eventually becomes a living live animal with feelings. Something iffy and icky about stem-cell cultivated organic muscle, fat and tissue and consuming it. There is no equivalence between the two. If it’s safe , well good for animals. For vegetarians, it doesn’t make any difference , just don’t want to be the spokesperson for this , that’s all. Was just curious what other NVs feel. I am sure it will take time to be comfortable with it. So you say there is no difference in quality or authenticity between a naturally grown tissue from stem-cells in an animal’s body and a lab-grown tissue using stem-cells ? Next would be to grow human tissue and organs and used them in transplants? Edited November 25, 2022 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 Exclusive: We Tasted The World's First Cultivated Steak, No Cows Required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed_thrills Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 1:46 PM, bharathh said: Have you tried Balut? Not so far, I couldn't find preparations around appetizing for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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