SM2907 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Another Gora initiative https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/news/adani-enterprises-removed-from-dow-jones-sustainability-indices/articleshow/97568649.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Khota said: It was overvalued. There was a lot that went into that report. If someone has called other person a con artist and there has been no response, you can draw your conclusions. What was that lot ? Please Share with us. From what I read all the information was already in public discourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Under_Score said: Dude....you are defending Adani's wrong doing....lol....Just chill....this is just the beginning of the downfall, whoever supported him from the political circle will have to give answers to the public of India. Dude I don’t have my skin in this game. It makes no personal difference to me. What is annoying is people who have no idea how MOST western firms indulge in the kind of so called manipulation that Adani is doing … think that just because a western short seller said something it must be right. The biggest western tech companies fraud the system through offshore entities all the time. This is a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. Nobody needs to learn ethics from western short sellers. They are NO1 rogues on Wall Street. We should trust the regulators to do their job and give verdict. Edited February 3, 2023 by rangeelaraja Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Khota said: Facebook =/= Adani I never said that... Only saying the modus operandi is similar. And also there is a high chance that all of these can be simultaneously true. • Adani is critical to strategic infra projects in India • Adani has reasonable prospects and solid assets • Adani has poor corporate governance • Adani is looking at an imminent cashflow problem • Adani was strategically targetted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM2907 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 to kya hua Adani ne fraud kiya. Sab karte hain. Adani ko kyun target karna. sab ko karo Gore Kaale waalon ka logic Khota 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Mods can add a poll on Adani's future :- 1) Adani survives this knock and goes on to be a big part of India's growth story 2) Adani loses steam and hives off its big buys 3) Adani heads towards liquidity crisis and eventual bankruptcy 4) Adani is too big to fail. So govt bails them out in 2024 post election, My sense is markets are sentiments. They are not fundamentals, Short sellers have a strategy and they have implemented it brilliantly. Adani will live to fight another day. These businessmen are tough folks and they can ride out storms like these. Two day experts don't matter in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 8 hours ago, SM2907 said: It wont be required. Market has reacted. Audit will be to save his ass Not if it is an independent audit. Doubt this man will ever do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 hours ago, ravishingravi said: What was that lot ? Please Share with us. From what I read all the information was already in public discourse. If it was all so obvious and out there why did SEBI not stop him from trading. Still no lawsuit from a man who has been accused of con. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 hours ago, diga said: I never said that... Only saying the modus operandi is similar. And also there is a high chance that all of these can be simultaneously true. • Adani is critical to strategic infra projects in India • Adani has reasonable prospects and solid assets • Adani has poor corporate governance • Adani is looking at an imminent cashflow problem • Adani was strategically targetted You said Facebook does the same. Minimizing your taxes is allowed by the law. Inflating your share value is not. People like Adani are needed for India to be successful and grow. But they are not bigger than the country. His greed got to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Mods can add a poll on Adani's future :- 1) Adani survives this knock and goes on to be a big part of India's growth story 2) Adani loses steam and hives off its big buys 3) Adani heads towards liquidity crisis and eventual bankruptcy 4) Adani is too big to fail. So govt bails them out in 2024 post election, My sense is markets are sentiments. They are not fundamentals, Short sellers have a strategy and they have implemented it brilliantly. Adani will live to fight another day. These businessmen are tough folks and they can ride out storms like these. Two day experts don't matter in the long run. Adani would be fine. His shares won't have the artificial valuation that they did. He still has a vibrant solar power and transmission sector. And Modi is smart person, and he will now distance himself from Adani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, SM2907 said: to kya hua Adani ne fraud kiya. Sab karte hain. Adani ko kyun target karna. sab ko karo Gore Kaale waalon ka logic And that is the biggest problem. They all do that so let him get away. They all should be paying the price. He has really hurt Indian economy doing that. I think all these rich folks need to be send to Gandhi Ashram for a week to live modestly. Then they will learn how to serve the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Khota said: You said Facebook does the same. Minimizing your taxes is allowed by the law. Inflating your share value is not. People like Adani are needed for India to be successful and grow. But they are not bigger than the country. His greed got to him. That's not exactly true, if you're caught you're a thief & if not you're just an alleged conman! This happens everywhere in the world, including the US - The only rule which applies everywhere in the *ing universe (almost) equally is - He who has the stick owns the Check "Billions" for more such opportunities! What Musk did wrt Tesla or even Doge multiple times is equally deplorable but he got away with it because - well he's the richest man on earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 hours ago, ravishingravi said: What was that lot ? Please Share with us. From what I read all the information was already in public discourse. Used an 11 employee firm to audit books. That firm had zero clients. They were inexperienced. Why not use a big firm to audit your finances? He used this small company for audit so that he could influence them. That is how fraud is committed. I went to the website of their audit firm Shah Dandaria and here is the result. Hmmm… can't reach this page The connection was reset. Try: Checking the connection Checking the proxy and the firewall Running Windows Network Diagnostics ERR_CONNECTION_RESET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, R!TTER said: That's not exactly true, if you're caught you're a thief & if not you're just an alleged conman! This happens everywhere in the world, including the US - The only rule which applies everywhere in the *ing universe (almost) equally is - He who has the stick owns the Check "Billions" for more such opportunities! What Musk did wrt Tesla or even Doge multiple times is equally deplorable but he got away with it because - well he's the richest man on earth People routinely go to jail for this in US. Let me ask you, are you condoning this behavior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, Khota said: Adani would be fine. His shares won't have the artificial valuation that they did. He still has a vibrant solar power and transmission sector. And Modi is smart person, and he will now distance himself from Adani. adani ports are their cash cow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Khota said: People routinely go to jail for this in US. Let me ask you, are you condoning this behavior? No I'm saying as long as the "system" is looking to forgive you or look the other way you're safe! When you have a target on your back then just watch out. Drumpf, Dubya, Colin Powell, Dick the *ing Cheney, Reagan - these are just some of the top names that come to mind as far as people who should've IMO served time in jail. I can find a similarly long list for business owners from the US but you get the point, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, velu said: adani ports are their cash cow Indian industrialist making money of service industry. Nothing new. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Just now, R!TTER said: No I'm saying as long as the "system" is looking to forgive you or look the other way you're safe! When you have a target on your back then just watch out. Drumpf, Dubya, Colin Powell, Dick the *ing Cheney, Reagan - these are just some of the top names that come to mind as far as people who should've IMO served time in jail. I can find a similarly long list for business owners from the US but you get the point, right? That was for the war and I never agreed with the weapons of mass destruction bs. This is for finances. SEC will prosecute you to the full extent. SEBI will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Just now, Khota said: SEC will prosecute you to the full extent. SEBI will not. SEC can't prosecute jack, it's the DoJ which presses charges & convicts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, R!TTER said: No I'm saying as long as the "system" is looking to forgive you or look the other way you're safe! When you have a target on your back then just watch out. Drumpf, Dubya, Colin Powell, Dick the *ing Cheney, Reagan - these are just some of the top names that come to mind as far as people who should've IMO served time in jail. I can find a similarly long list for business owners from the US but you get the point, right? Why not Clintons, Obama and Biden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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