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Breaking : Aussies attempt to use post match Nagpur pitch for practice - ground staff pour water over the pitch.


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Posted
6 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

Turn alone is not a problem, turn along with speed off the wicket is what makes life very difficult. Eg of taht is the Ahmedabad pink ball test where the wickets all fell because of the extra skid due to the pink lacquer. Slow turn is not that hard to negotiate. Granted this was a slow pitch so it was not like the Mumbai match against Nzl where by the 2nd innings the pitch had a lot of bite especially from one end and Jayant cleaned up in the 2nd innings. The previous one at Kanpur was a pitch as dead as it comes because it was very slow even if the graph says it turned more than this one which it didn't seem so having seen both matches.

 

From what i observed they succumbed to their own mind game. the way Smith giving thumbs up to Ravi jadeja's orthodox spinning deliveries clearly indicated the uncertainty of their mindset.  Just like in England when you get beaten you are told to put that away and concentrate on next delivery, you do the same in India. You play the line and  be prepared to miss it. This is a basic rule against spin. But they didn't do that. Before KL Hahul becoming a dud played a remarkable innings agianst Australia scoring 64 out of a total of 100 odd. There was one innings where pujara made a 100.Those trakcs were unplayable This is nothing like it. It is matter of not being able to adapt immediately after playing on roads in Australia. May be give them a match or two they will find a way to cope with it.

Posted
6 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

Turn alone is not a problem, turn along with speed off the wicket is what makes life very difficult. Eg of taht is the Ahmedabad pink ball test where the wickets all fell because of the extra skid due to the pink lacquer. Slow turn is not that hard to negotiate. Granted this was a slow pitch so it was not like the Mumbai match against Nzl where by the 2nd innings the pitch had a lot of bite especially from one end and Jayant cleaned up in the 2nd innings. The previous one at Kanpur was a pitch as dead as it comes because it was very slow even if the graph says it turned more than this one which it didn't seem so having seen both matches.

Completely agree with this. On a slow, low turner, the spinners need to have skill to take wickets because the turn can be negotiated by batsmen who have assured footwork by either stepping out to smother the turn or by going back and playing the ball late because it is slow off the pitch.

 

The Nagpur pitch was one of the easier pitches we have seen in India over the last few years, but the Aussies have no clue how to play when the ball deviates laterally. They will be similarly at sea when they tour England for the Ashes when the ball seams. They are flat track bullies who can only play on the roads they roll out in Australia these days.

Posted
33 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

From what i observed they succumbed to their own mind game. the way Smith giving thumbs up to Ravi jadeja's orthodox spinning deliveries clearly indicated the uncertainty of their mindset.  Just like in England when you get beaten you are told to put that away and concentrate on next delivery, you do the same in India. You play the line and  be prepared to miss it. This is a basic rule against spin. But they didn't do that. Before KL Hahul becoming a dud played a remarkable innings agianst Australia scoring 64 out of a total of 100 odd. There was one innings where pujara made a 100.Those trakcs were unplayable This is nothing like it. It is matter of not being able to adapt immediately after playing on roads in Australia. May be give them a match or two they will find a way to cope with it.

Ya i know that but my point was that a graph which shows degree of turn alone is not that useful in knowing how challenging the surface was. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

Ya i know that but my point was that a graph which shows degree of turn alone is not that useful in knowing how challenging the surface was. 

That was just to show this is not a "rank turner" where ball turns square. Gabba had more bite and turn than this on day 5. Remember how one of the ball from Lyon went to first slip after pitching

Posted
31 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

That was just to show this is not a "rank turner" where ball turns square. Gabba had more bite and turn than this on day 5. Remember how one of the ball from Lyon went to first slip after pitching

That Gabba surface had big cracks on day 5 which aided both the quicks and Lyon. It was treacherous to bat on the last day which makes Pant's innings all the more remarkable.

Posted
4 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

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Super sarcasm! :hysterical:

Lol funnier part was about how he mentioned that segment regarding healy who chimed in with 'fair pitches kudutha Australia. Spin bayangrama turn aachu na india.'

 

You can tell ash is pissed lol

Posted
11 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:


 

Even Lankans play dirty. They are past masters at this. 
 

Remember that Sanga toss fakery during WC 11 Finals. He is marketed as a “ gentleman “.

 

The audacity to commit fraud in a World Cup final when billions of eye balls are watching. 
 

 

Lankans are masters of playing the decent underdog and then the small country card while doing **** like this. 

 

If it hadnt been for the emergence of Muralitharan , Sanga and Jaya after the 96 team , their cricket team would have been in Kenya levels now. 

Posted

Do we know what happened ? Not really 

 

Did the Aussies have. Right to practise on used pitch ? No 

 

every visiting team has to follow rules. That includes where they can practise . 
 

the centre wicket all we know might be used for another game in few days. Maybe the grounds Men don’t want any other use for that 

 

or maybe they didn’t want to give the visitors any undue advantage . It’s fair then too . Test cricket nobody gets an inch . Glad Indians have a spine . 
 

when India tours , we get poor net bowlers . Practice games are a sham . Australia need to suck up and shut up and play . 

Posted

In general Aussies don't doctor their wickets, most are fairly predictable irrespective of who the visitors are.

 

NZ, RSA, Eng do doctor the **** out of their pitches keeping opponents in mind. Can't even hide behind the excuse of weather. RSA will gave Eng bone dry pitches and for Asian sides even during drought years one can't differentiate between the pitch and outfield. NZ very blatant with these things, Eng too indulge in pitch designing but Sky propoganda team downplays these things tactfully. Now in Bazball era you will see different kind of pitches.

 

Asian countries toh faltu mein hi badnaam hai. Apart from Australia and WI (do they even care about test results now?) every country is similar in this regard.

Posted
38 minutes ago, Gollum said:

In general Aussies don't doctor their wickets, most are fairly predictable irrespective of who the visitors are.

 

NZ, RSA, Eng do doctor the **** out of their pitches keeping opponents in mind. Can't even hide behind the excuse of weather. RSA will gave Eng bone dry pitches and for Asian sides even during drought years one can't differentiate between the pitch and outfield. NZ very blatant with these things, Eng too indulge in pitch designing but Sky propoganda team downplays these things tactfully. Now in Bazball era you will see different kind of pitches.

 

Asian countries toh faltu mein hi badnaam hai. Apart from Australia and WI (do they even care about test results now?) every country is similar in this regard.

Indeed NZ & SA are on another level though especially when India tours.  Worst is reserved for us. 

Aussies pitches in past 3 tours have been consistent. 

Apart from Perth 2018 which was he first test at new Venue even the recent Ashes test was similar. 

At least there is consistency wrt all sides.  Not selective targeting. 

Posted
14 hours ago, Gollum said:

In general Aussies don't doctor their wickets, most are fairly predictable irrespective of who the visitors are.

 

NZ, RSA, Eng do doctor the **** out of their pitches keeping opponents in mind. Can't even hide behind the excuse of weather. RSA will gave Eng bone dry pitches and for Asian sides even during drought years one can't differentiate between the pitch and outfield. NZ very blatant with these things, Eng too indulge in pitch designing but Sky propoganda team downplays these things tactfully. Now in Bazball era you will see different kind of pitches.

 

Asian countries toh faltu mein hi badnaam hai. Apart from Australia and WI (do they even care about test results now?) every country is similar in this regard.

 

looks like you don't understand cricket (or sports). Green pitches arent doctored, only turners are :agree:

 

 

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