rkt.india Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 14 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: SO Tyagi/Umran don't get chance. Even lockie and wood aren't getting chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, rkt.india said: Even lockie and wood aren't getting chances. Thought Wood was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepdynamo Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 Pitches are tired and dead now. Slow and gripping. Graveyard for high pace fast bowlers. The excitement have died down considerably. express bowling and nevada 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, deepdynamo said: Pitches are tired and dead now. Slow and gripping. Graveyard for high pace fast bowlers. The excitement have died down considerably. Story of every IPL express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) Contrary to slow pitch theory- If some1 take a look at top wkt takers till last week were mostly the fast bowler. And not the trundler kind, bowler with good pace have been getting wkts- Siraj (who is bowling his fastest consistently not just 1/2 ball per match), Tushar probably bowling his fastest, Shami, Pathirana all are fairly quick. Only starting from last/this week there has been a rise of spinners(mostly leg spinner who are normally huge wkt taker in T20s anyways) and pace change bowlers. Most of the 130s bowlers are going for runs or unable to pick wkts KKR bowling looks a step-up with Harshit Rana. Last phase of IPL will support spinners due to aging and natural wear and tear of the pitches which is expected after 7/8 matches. Edited May 15, 2023 by tapandrun express bowling and deepdynamo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepdynamo Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 61/70 games completed. Updated list of fast bowlers that has been given at least one game in IPL 2023 (except for the ruled out bowlers like Bumrah & Prasidh)No. of games is designated in bracket. 1. Moved Akash Madhwal to Talented Trundlers after two impressive performances in Wankhede. 2. Moved Vaibhav Arora to Talented Trundlers after impressing for KKR. 3. Moved Tushar Deshpande to High Potential but untested after getting all 13 games so far for CSK and gradually improving. Top Tier Fast bowlersM Siraj (12) M Shami (12)J Bumrah (0)H Pandya (11) High Potential Fast bowlersPrasidh (0)Mohsin Khan (2) Kuldeep Sen (2) Umran Malik (7) High potential but untested Kartik Tyagi (1) Yudhvir Singh(3) Harshit Rana (5)Tushar Deshpande (13) Talented Trundlers Arshdeep Singh (12) Shardul Thakur (10) Deepak Chahar (7) T Natrajan (10)Akash Madhwal (4) Vaibhav Arora (4) Oldies but still relevant somewhat Umesh Yadav (8) Bhuvi Kumar (11) Sandeep Sharma (11) Mohit Sharma (9) Ishant Sharma(7) Washed out but still persisted somehow J Unadkat (3) Avesh Khan (9) Harshal Patel (11) Khaleel Ahmed (7) Navdeep Saini (1) Rookies ( but not impressive) R Hangrakerkar (2) Akash Singh (6) Mukesh Kumar (9) Chetan Sakariya (1) Yash Dayal (3) K Khejroliya (2) Yash Thakur (6) Arshad Khan (6) Arjun Tendulkar (4) Gurnoor Brar (1) KM Asif (4) Kuldip Yadav (2) Akashdeep (2) V Vyshak (6) tapandrun, Mosher and Lone Wolf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepdynamo Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, tapandrun said: Most of the 130s bowlers are going for runs or unable to pick wkts Yes, True. But they are still getting regular game time for their teams. And that is a bummer.Bhuvi, Natrajan, Avesh, Harshal, Khaleel, Sandeep, Mohit, Mukesh, Yash Thakur, KM Asif The tired pitches have enabled these bowlers to deliver few 'safe spells' without impacting the game. When was the last time Bhuvi won the game with new ball or bowl two prefect death overs. Never. He is just doing his usual 1/34 (4) in most of his matches despite having 10 years of experience. Natrajan is yet another 'safe' bowler who can never create an impact in a game. He can bowl in death but teams has figured him out. Again he is the sort of 1/38(4) sort of guy who will keep doing his stuff without making anybody excited. Sandeep is again a safe kind of bowler. Gives a safe non threatening spell of 30 in 4 overs but have no skills to take wickets unless batsman starts attacking him. Harshal and Avesh are premium level frauds. They are so incompetent that despite of tired pitches in later half, they are still going 10 runs per over. rollingstoned, vvvslaxman, Mosher and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepdynamo Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 Boobie Bhaiya.... frauding SRH once again.... Booked his spot for next 3 IPL Suhaan, singhvivek141, rollingstoned and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepdynamo Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 Shami bowled beautifully and what is expected from leading India fast bowler. 3/16(3), Broke the game. In contrast Bhuvi (10 year experienced bowler) got a cheap 5-fer at backend of inning when batsman were slogging for everything. 5/30(4), Picked wickets when damage was already done. This is exactly the modus of operands for Bhuvi. Just keep doing minimum, pick up cheap wickets here and there and keep himself away from scrutiny. If you ask me , he is no better than any other rookie even though he should be a leader of SRH attack. vvvslaxman, rollingstoned, singhvivek141 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepdynamo Posted May 16, 2023 Author Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) So Good to see Shami with Purple and not some frauds like Bhuvi or Harshal. Edited May 16, 2023 by deepdynamo singhvivek141, express bowling, rollingstoned and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 17 hours ago, deepdynamo said: Shami bowled beautifully and what is expected from leading India fast bowler. 3/16(3), Broke the game. In contrast Bhuvi (10 year experienced bowler) got a cheap 5-fer at backend of inning when batsman were slogging for everything. 5/30(4), Picked wickets when damage was already done. This is exactly the modus of operands for Bhuvi. Just keep doing minimum, pick up cheap wickets here and there and keep himself away from scrutiny. If you ask me , he is no better than any other rookie even though he should be a leader of SRH attack. People are already crying to have Boobie Jadeja Ashwin in 2024 T20 WC... Cricketing IQ in this country is in deep trenches for a reason. express bowling, Mosher, rollingstoned and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 6 hours ago, deepdynamo said: So Good to see Shami with Purple and not some frauds like Bhuvi or Harshal. Impact wicket list confirms this. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/indian-premier-league-2023-1345038/most-impactful-bowlers Mosher and deepdynamo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: People are already crying to have Boobie Jadeja Ashwin in 2024 T20 WC... Cricketing IQ in this country is in deep trenches for a reason. Piyush chawla is outbowling every current spinners with more impact wickets. deepdynamo and Lone Wolf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Piyush chawla is outbowling every current spinners with more impact wickets. Spinners get better with age but Ashwin has regressed... And Jadeja is still okay with the ball but his LOI batting is just pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: Spinners get better with age but Ashwin has regressed... And Jadeja is still okay with the ball but his LOI batting is just pathetic. Ashwin is out of the picture for selection. In Tests he is fine. But jaddu feasted mostly on chennai wickets. deepdynamo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 On 5/15/2023 at 12:45 PM, deepdynamo said: Shami bowled beautifully and what is expected from leading India fast bowler. 3/16(3), Broke the game. In contrast Bhuvi (10 year experienced bowler) got a cheap 5-fer at backend of inning when batsman were slogging for everything. 5/30(4), Picked wickets when damage was already done. This is exactly the modus of operands for Bhuvi. Just keep doing minimum, pick up cheap wickets here and there and keep himself away from scrutiny. If you ask me , he is no better than any other rookie even though he should be a leader of SRH attack. Twitter is full of praise for Bhuvi bhaiya while slandering Shami deepdynamo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Lord said: Twitter is full of praise for Bhuvi bhaiya while slandering Shami Why is Shami being slandered ? Mosher and deepdynamo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepdynamo Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 17th over, Khaleel, 20 Runs 18th over, Mukesh, 21 Runs 20th over, Ishant, 17 Runs Trundlers of lowest quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Mukesh Kumar has 7 wickets from 9 matches .. Eco of 10.15. Average of 39+. But plays every game. Why ? deepdynamo, Lone Wolf, singhvivek141 and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapandrun Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Khaleel has everything going for him- Good height, Rhythmic run-up and action. Not sure why can not he work on his speeds and apply brains to take wkts. He is among those Ind players who one sees and ask why was he selected. Avesh was backed by Ind TM and rated v.highly and nt a single season down he looks mid-level player. Gambhir during Aisa cup commentary mentioned that looks like Ind Team has asked to cut down on pace as he was hardly touching 140s, same question should be asked to LSG TM if they are asking Avesh to cut on pace or if Avesh is not as fast as he was deemed or marketed to be. Mukesh Kumar's selection into Ind team is total surprise, a set-up who talks about a 150 kmph bowler being raw and not ready as if they have many like him. Ind for the first time has a genuine express bowler but they think he is not ready. On the other hand Mukesh Kumar's selection into test then ODIs and T20s is never contested, not sure if he is intl. quality nothing special abt him. Edited May 17, 2023 by tapandrun express bowling, Mosher and deepdynamo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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