singhvivek141 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: I like players with great positive attitude. Jaiswal, Rinku, Tilak fall under this category. There is no tentativeness. Ruturaj for all his talent is a very nervous starter. We can build the team around Shubman Gill. Identify the core. In order to do we have to "fasttrack" this seniors "out" of the side. Our top 5 in ODI post 2023 WC can be Jaiswal Ruturaj Gill Pant/Samson/Jitesh (wk) Rinku/Tilak That's a wonderful line up with atleast 2 lefties in Top 5. Tilak and Jaiswal can share 5-6 overs amongst themselves...it will also allow us to avoid with the SKY experiment in ODI's...likes of Shreyas Iyer can be around as well on subcontinent pitches. But ofcourse to whom I am fooling, Kohli won't go anywhere till 2027 ODI WC, KL is the golden boy of Rahul and who knows after consulting with MSD they might bring Rahane in ODI's as well raki05 and Jay 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) When you see such threads where names being thrown around, unfortunately, chances are that the player is less likely to make it (apart from some good games/season). Start with the P Shaw, Thakur, Sundar, V Iyer, S Iyer, .., ... , ... Even Umran Makik, a favorite last season, appears to need some work to compete. PS and on the other hand, guys like Gill were portrayed to be not that good at T20 for e.g. Edited June 2, 2023 by zen Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, zen said: When you see names being thrown around on ICFs, unfortunately, chances are that the player is less likely to make it (apart from some good games). Start with the P Shaw, Thakur, Sundar, V Iyer, S Iyer, ..., ... , ... Even Umran Makik, a favorite last season, appears to need some work to compete. Rinku performed well last season, so did Jaiswal, Ruturaj and Tilak. They all had been strong performer in domestics as well. Shivam Dube performed very well this year, but no body is calling for his inclusion. Ofcourse, they may not get immediate success and will have some dip in performance, international pressure is much higher than IPL. Siraj took 2-3 years to find his groove, even Shami was on off for couple of years before turning into a consistent performer. raki05 1 Link to comment
zen Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Rinku performed well last season, so did Jaiswal, Ruturaj and Tilak. They all had been strong performer in domestics as well. Shivam Dube performed very well this year, but no body is calling for his inclusion. Ofcourse, they may not get immediate success and will have some dip in performance, international pressure is much higher than IPL. Siraj took 2-3 years to find his groove, even Shami was on off for couple of years before turning into a consistent performer. International games comprise multiple series/tournaments so I am not sure if international pressure is higher than in IPL, which has its own pressure (pressure to win, owners, maintain paycheck, etc.) in general (world cups, yes) ... At the national team level, there would be pressure to be selected as a national team can only play 11 players (1 team v 10 IPL teams) so all these guys compete for spots. Therefore, less likely to be picked (and if picked, cement a spot) unless they do something exceptional over a few seasons. Edited June 2, 2023 by zen Link to comment
Suhaan Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Stan AF said: If there's anything I learnt from all these years of IPL, is to stop writing international blank cheques based on IPL form. So many horrible disasters Actually , consistent performance in atleast 2 IPL seasons warrants an opportunity in the national T20 side which is already not strong and far from winning anything Domestic performance also matters,all those in the reckoning aren't just 1 season wonder Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 11 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Rinku performed well last season, so did Jaiswal, Ruturaj and Tilak. They all had been strong performer in domestics as well. Shivam Dube performed very well this year, but no body is calling for his inclusion. Ofcourse, they may not get immediate success and will have some dip in performance, international pressure is much higher than IPL. Siraj took 2-3 years to find his groove, even Shami was on off for couple of years before turning into a consistent performer. Things to note among the new kids -Jaiswal, Tilak, Gill this season. 1. Apart from Gill, for others it is their full 2nd season. They are still not rounded their game fully. But the shot making ability be it spin or pace and the power & placement on those shots is amazingly good . These are not ordinary talents at 20-21 years of age. 2. Even Gill this year has developed his shot making to another level. Sublime ! 3. The power Tilak generates on his shots is awesome. This kid in another 2 years can become really good in short format. Should try at #3 . 4. All of them have the ability to hit good balls on stumps to boundaries and can put bowlers under pressure. Most heartening is all 3 are able to improve their game pretty quickly and hard working. The change in their game compared to last year is awesome ! Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 3:45 PM, Gollum said: As if all the other ODI players we have are good vs spin. Moronic comment, as expected. No better proof needed then the people who reacted. Link to comment
Adamant Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Please no! Nowhere near international class yet. Good for IPL Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chakdephatte said: Moronic comment, as expected. No better proof needed then the people who reacted. Everybody here knows your agenda against youngsters, up-and-coming players. Not interested in getting personal. Edited June 7, 2023 by Gollum Suhaan and raki05 2 Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, Gollum said: Everybody here knows your agenda against youngsters, up-and-coming players. Why I have to be a hater or fan to talk about them? I just say what I think. And I am the one who always talked against this fanaticism and fan culture. Link to comment
Jay Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Adamant said: Please no! Nowhere near international class yet. Good for IPL You think so? If coolie fans says so then it must be the opposite. I 100% now believe rinku will do well for India. Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Tewatia, Rinku, Pinku, tripathi, Hooda, Madhwal. Keep them away from Indian jersey please. Link to comment
Adamant Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jay said: You think so? If coolie fans says so then it must be the opposite. I 100% now believe rinku will do well for India. You are probably the worst predictor I have seen across forums. Also you change your opinion in a day. So let's not even talk about this. Rinku Singh is not international class, I was also right when I said the same about Hooda and Tripathi. Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jay said: You think so? If coolie fans says so then it must be the opposite. I 100% now believe rinku will do well for India. 5 minutes ago, Adamant said: You are probably the worst predictor I have seen across forums. Also you change your opinion in a day. So let's not even talk about this. Rinku Singh is not international class, I was also right when I said the same about Hooda and Tripathi. Common boys Waited for you two to come live. The game is today. Eat each other. Lord 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, Adamant said: You are probably the worst predictor I have seen across forums. Also you change your opinion in a day. So let's not even talk about this. Rinku Singh is not international class, I was also right when I said the same about Hooda and Tripathi. I an literally the best predictor when it comes to potential and games. I never get it wrong. * out of here. I said we will lose to SA 2-1 causee of coolie. We lost Said we will lose to nz. We lost Said we will draw vs Oz in 2020 cause coolie left. We ended up winning Lel. I said 2-1 to india before recent Oz series. Guess what 2-1 Lel. Now piss off vermin. Link to comment
Jay Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 46 minutes ago, Adamant said: You are probably the worst predictor I have seen across forums. Also you change your opinion in a day. So let's not even talk about this. Rinku Singh is not international class, I was also right when I said the same about Hooda and Tripathi. Tripathi I agree. Honda is all zen. He gets it wrong often. You are better than zen. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 15 hours ago, Adamant said: Please no! Nowhere near international class yet. Good for IPL We have no finishers. He is the only one who has shown temperament and big hitting as a combo. raki05 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 of the ones I see <25-26 yr of age, the truly impressive ones are as follows: Jasiwal (all formats) Gill (only LOIs) Sarfaraz (only flat pitches in tests) Sundar (tests and maybe ODIs; if his frickin glass body holds up) Tilak (T20s and maybe ODIs) pant (all formats) not yet sold on gaikwad, rinku shaw - no formats. should not even playing for mumbai squad. Link to comment
tweaker Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 RinkuSingh not selected in T20 squad for Windies series Lord and raki05 2 Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Rinku isn't a hack. He is a proper batsman.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk raki05, Lord, singhvivek141 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
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