khadekhademaaro Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Railway minister should resign. Under_Score, Lone Wolf and Lord 1 2
Vickydev Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 This is a massive disaster. The pictures in the daytime look horrific. RIP to the victims, that's a huge loss of life
Tillu Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 So it means failure of the indigenously developed Train collision avoidance system KAVACH.
jf1gp_1 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 3 hours ago, khadekhademaaro said: Railway minister should resign. In that case road and transport minister should change every day. Also collision occurred due to derailment. Doubt anti-collision system could have done much.
Tillu Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 So the system was designed to prevent only head on collisions. Why didn't they take train derailments into consideration when they are such a frequent occurrence. Why are our quality requirements so weak. Even last year we lost so many live due the bridge collapse in Gujarat. Why do we have to sacrifice so many lives before we correct the mistakes. Where is the foresight to prevent these mishaps.
Lone Wolf Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 5 hours ago, khadekhademaaro said: Railway minister should resign. Biggest Train disaster since 2004 worldwide... He should resign. Mismanagement all around.
Ranvir Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Tillu said: So the system was designed to prevent only head on collisions. Why didn't they take train derailments into consideration when they are such a frequent occurrence. Why are our quality requirements so weak. Even last year we lost so many live due the bridge collapse in Gujarat. Why do we have to sacrifice so many lives before we correct the mistakes. Where is the foresight to prevent these mishaps. Life is cheap in India, always has been. Under_Score, Real McCoy, Lord and 3 others 5 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 For those saying don't ask for resignation, An inquiry cannot be unbiased if the same minister and officers are in charge. They can be grilled only when they are not entitled to any protocols. So yeah they are responsible & there has to be a accountability as well.
MechEng Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Tillu said: So the system was designed to prevent only head on collisions. Why didn't they take train derailments into consideration when they are such a frequent occurrence. Why are our quality requirements so weak. Even last year we lost so many live due the bridge collapse in Gujarat. Why do we have to sacrifice so many lives before we correct the mistakes. Where is the foresight to prevent these mishaps. 3 hours ago, Ranvir said: Life is cheap in India, always has been. Quality requirements...lmao... Quality and India are oxymorons. The savings mindset will never allow high tech to come to India.
putrevus Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 12 hours ago, khadekhademaaro said: Railway minister should resign. how is that going to solve anything. Will it solve outdated and rusty tracks which railways have not replaced, what was so called modern saftey system Kavach doing? Is this not the scenario when this system should have activated itself and atleast stopped one train.
Lone Wolf Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Oria people are Gold standard people in India.. Humble, down to earth & helpful. A rare trait these days. Hardworking & generally honest people compared to neighboring lawless states. Lord 1
khadekhademaaro Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, putrevus said: how is that going to solve anything. Will it solve outdated and rusty tracks which railways have not replaced, what was so called modern saftey system Kavach doing? Is this not the scenario when this system should have activated itself and atleast stopped one train. It will put pressure on the next one to focus on avoiding such incidents. .
khadekhademaaro Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 10 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: In that case road and transport minister should change every day. Also collision occurred due to derailment. Doubt anti-collision system could have done much. One train collided with the parked goods train on the same line, which was not supposed to be and can be avoided by a system like Kavach. The derailed bogies were then hit by a speeding SF train from the opposite direction. This could not have been prevented by Kavach
Lord Posted June 3, 2023 Author Posted June 3, 2023 5 hours ago, putrevus said: how is that going to solve anything. Will it solve outdated and rusty tracks which railways have not replaced, what was so called modern saftey system Kavach doing? Is this not the scenario when this system should have activated itself and atleast stopped one train. Wasn't that his job? He should resign because of imcompetence and to prevent future disasters. Lone Wolf 1
randomGuy Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 I was thinking of a parallel to compare...let us say in aviation, the air traffic controller software/machine is working fine, but the air traffic controller personnel make the aircrafts crash/collide due to negligence/mal-intent.... should the aviation minister resign in this case?
khadekhademaaro Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, randomGuy said: I was thinking of a parallel to compare...let us say in aviation, the air traffic controller software/machine is working fine, but the air traffic controller personnel make the aircrafts crash/collide due to negligence/mal-intent.... should the aviation minister resign in this case? Yes. should resign. Otherwise it leaves way to get away with such incidents for the minister.
khadekhademaaro Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 Remember the name - Lal Bahadur Shastri Under_Score 1
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