What will be the realistic Indian test team for West Indies tour ?

[Majestic]

4 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

This. 

 

Rohit

Jaiswal

Gill

Kohli

Rahane

Jadeja

Kishan/Samson

Sundar/Thakur

Ashwin

Shami

Siraj

 

Shami might be resting.

[Vijy]

3 hours ago, Majestic said:

Rohit

Jaiswal

Gill

Kohli

Rahane

Kishan(wkt)

I don't see chepu getting dropped. dravidiot likes him too much

[vvvslaxman]

On 6/15/2023 at 11:02 PM, tweaker said:

What to expect from IND vs WI Test squad announcement?

• Despite talks of transition, Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma are to continue for now.
• Selectors will discuss whether they should stick to Pujara with Rishabh, Shreyas, and KL Rahul still injured.
• Sarfaraz Khan and Yashasvi Jaiswal besides Suryakumar Yadav are likely to get call-ups.
• The other major change will be a change in the wicketkeeper. KS Bharat is all set to make way for Ishan Kishan.
• There will be discussions on Wriddhiman Saha who has been forced into exile in favour of KS Bharat.
• But with an unsatisfactory batting performance by Bharat, Saha could get the nod.
• Selectors will also discuss Wriddhiman Saha who has not been considered since the New Zealand series.
• Among bowlers, Mukesh Kumar is set to get a call-up in place of Umesh Yadav

 

SuryaKumar yadav ahead of other domestic players who have done well in first class is injustice.  Even Sanju Samson has a shot above him.

[vvvslaxman]

On 6/14/2023 at 7:23 AM, coffee_rules said:

India lost WTC due to bench strength being weak. Need to find a replacement for Bum-Pant. Time to blood Unadkat

 

Make him captain. That guy with a bunch of ordinary players won Saurashtra titles.   Discard the other lethargic, disinterested oldies.  Chanderpaul was playing when Umesh made debut. Now his son is playing. Broad/Anderson are exceptions.We have to phase out oldie fast bowlers.  Youngsters like Jayadev should be given a run :)

[raki05]

Lol all these leeches Budhara, chokli  going to play shamelessly no respite. Cricinfo even reporting that Budhara and hahane will play county division 2 after wi tour. Maha chodu chutiyanandan Draavid sir said Hahane can be awarded longer rope even if injured players come back after injury.

[Vijy]

4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Make him captain. That guy with a bunch of ordinary players won Saurashtra titles.   Discard the other lethargic, disinterested oldies.  Chanderpaul was playing when Umesh made debut. Now his son is playing. Broad/Anderson are exceptions.We have to phase out oldie fast bowlers.  Youngsters like Jayadev should be given a run :)

yes, give the young jayadev a go. also the young boobie and ishant. ideal pace attack:

 

jayadev

ishant

umesh

boobie

[singhvivek141]

10 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Make him captain. That guy with a bunch of ordinary players won Saurashtra titles.   Discard the other lethargic, disinterested oldies.  Chanderpaul was playing when Umesh made debut. Now his son is playing. Broad/Anderson are exceptions.We have to phase out oldie fast bowlers.  Youngsters like Jayadev should be given a run :)

Jaydev will go teary eyed if he reads this statement. He officially touching 32.

[vvvslaxman]

15 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Jaydev will go teary eyed if he reads this statement. He officially touching 32.

 

Meant to be sarcastic :)

[BlueBlood]

They will bring back Ashwin and as usual bolster batting by adding KL instead of KS Bharat.

 

But will not experiment with the main issue which is bowling.

 

Then resident idiot posters will come running once Ashwin and KL dominate hapless WI saying both should have been included in WTC and the cycle repeats.

 

If I was KL Rahul and Ashwin I would purposely injure myself in pressure knockouts so people will miss me and select me back again.

 

Not known fattu's like KL Rahul, Ashwin have consistently bottled it in knockouts.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, BlueBlood said:

They will bring back Ashwin and as usual bolster batting by adding KL instead of KS Bharat.

 

But will not experiment with the main issue which is bowling.

 

Then resident idiot posters will come running once Ashwin and KL dominate hapless WI saying both should have been included in WTC and the cycle repeats.

 

If I was KL Rahul and Ashwin I would purposely injure myself in pressure knockouts so people will miss me and select me back again.

 

Not known fattu's like KL Rahul, Ashwin have consistently bottled it in knockouts.

this is likely to happen

[Lord]

6 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

They will bring back Ashwin and as usual bolster batting by adding KL instead of KS Bharat.

 

But will not experiment with the main issue which is bowling.

 

Then resident idiot posters will come running once Ashwin and KL dominate hapless WI saying both should have been included in WTC and the cycle repeats.

 

If I was KL Rahul and Ashwin I would purposely injure myself in pressure knockouts so people will miss me and select me back again.

 

Not known fattu's like KL Rahul, Ashwin have consistently bottled it in knockouts.

main issue is batting not bowling

[zen]

Realistic test team for WI tour 15 + 3 backups: 

 

Batsmen: Rohit, Gill, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Jaiswal, & SKY, along w/ Sarfaraz as likely backup 

 

WK: KS Bharat & Kishan ... won't be surprised if Saha is brought back 

 

Pacers: Siraj, Thakur, and 2 from Unadkat, Umesh, & someone new if Shami is being rested. One of them would be the backup 

 

Spinners: Axar, Ashwin, Jadeja, & maybe Kuldeep as backup

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

53 minutes ago, Lord said:

main issue is batting not bowling

 

You don't expect logic from clueless ranting :)

[putrevus]

15 hours ago, Lord said:

main issue is batting not bowling

What are batting avgs of teams playing India during this 2020-2023. 

 

 

Bowlers let slip away two away series from their hands.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, putrevus said:

What are batting avgs of teams playing India during this 2020-2023. 

 

 

Bowlers let slip away two away series from their hands.

 

 

 

Both are problematic. But batting has been a longer problem.  Runs for 3 plus years. Pujara/Rahane were let go. Then they were brought back in. It further sets us back. We have this new problem of captaincy as well. KL Rahul was atrocious in South Africa. Then noob Bumrah was completely out of depth in 5th test.  Now Rohit equally match them. And another issue is Keeper problem. Although we know Bharat sucks, we still don't know how good Kishan will be. He could end up being a horrible keeper and poor bat in Tests. Then the obvious problem of coaching. All 3 coaches.  India has far too many issues to fix. 

[putrevus]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Both are problematic. But batting has been a longer problem.  Runs for 3 plus years. Pujara/Rahane were let go. Then they were brought back in. It further sets us back. We have this new problem of captaincy as well. KL Rahul was atrocious in South Africa. Then noob Bumrah was completely out of depth in 5th test.  Now Rohit equally match them. And another issue is Keeper problem. Although we know Bharat sucks, we still don't know how good Kishan will be. He could end up being a horrible keeper and poor bat in Tests. Then the obvious problem of coaching. All 3 coaches.  India has far too many issues to fix. 

I don't think problems are as big as they are being made out on this forum.

 

India has played on the most bowler friendly wickets in last decade both away and  at home.Jadeja is no way a sub 25 avg bowler similarly Ashwin and Axar.

 

People need to stop overrrating Indian fast bowling, there is no great fast bowler produced in India.Great fast bowlers have more impact than great batsmen all the time and Bumrah has come up short in every format when stakes have been high.

 

 

Bringing back Pujara and Rahane along with hiring of Dravid as a coach are main reason for team not progressing forward.

[vvvslaxman]

49 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I don't think problems are as big as they are being made out on this forum.

 

India has played on the most bowler friendly wickets in last decade both away and  at home.Jadeja is no way a sub 25 avg bowler similarly Ashwin and Axar.

 

People need to stop overrrating Indian fast bowling, there is no great fast bowler produced in India.Great fast bowlers have more impact than great batsmen all the time and Bumrah has come up short in every format when stakes have been high.

 

 

Bringing back Pujara and Rahane along with hiring of Dravid as a coach are main reason for team not progressing forward.

 

Indian fast bowling was really good last time. That was way better than current English attack. Also aggressive field set, overall aggression level was good. Bumrah could generate steep bounce of the length before his injury. Then Ishant was there to bowl those sharp inswingers to right handers. Siraj was bowling peaches on and off. Shami was providing able support.  Look at the field set we had on day 5 at Lords. Look at what we had against Australia. Moment Moeen Ali walked in India had short leg, forward short leg in place unlike our current clownery management who didn't even attempt bouncers against Head for one thing. But we also didn't have short leg or forward short leg when we actually did. 

 

[Lord]

8 hours ago, putrevus said:

What are batting avgs of teams playing India during this 2020-2023. 

 

 

Bowlers let slip away two away series from their hands.

 

 

 

The batting issues have been much older than 2020

 

Anyway we have best bowling avg since 2020

 

Team records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

 

but batting we are behind even Bangladesh

 

Team records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

 

 

[tweaker]

The selectors should strike a balance between experience and youth and should select the side accordingly. 

 

Windows is not a strong test team and the selectors can take risk and select some youngsters  who have good performance in domestic cricket.

Sarfaraz,Jaiswal should make their debut in this series. 

The selectors should also look for Shami `replacement and select a young pacer  in the squad.

[Adamant]

The bowling lineup should be 

Shami 145kph
Siraj 150 kph
Prasidh 150 kph

Thakur 140kph

Harshit Rana 155 kph

Pace Demons