India 15 member squad for the World Cup announced

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I don't agree with this stupid balance but if we have to play this balance, then Washington should have been selected ahead of the fraud all-rounder Jadeja in the squad.

 

Since Jan 01, 2021, while batting at 7 in ODI's.

 

Jadeja averages 32 and strikes at 59

Washi averages 35 and strikes at 100

Axar averages 28 and strikes at 120

 

 

So much "high quality allrounder" and "automatic selection"

Sundar was an automatic choice had he been fit.

His lack of fitness went against him, plus even his performances in recent hasn't been very good.

 

Bishnoi was another dark horse, but it seems he is predominantly seen only as a T20 bowler.

[saneindian]

29 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I don't agree with this stupid balance but if we have to play this balance, then Washington should have been selected ahead of the fraud all-rounder Jadeja in the squad.

 

Since Jan 01, 2021, while batting at 7 in ODI's.

 

Jadeja averages 32 and strikes at 59

Washi averages 35 and strikes at 100

Axar averages 28 and strikes at 120

 

 

So much "high quality allrounder" and "automatic selection"

Old trick which has been busted so many times. Whenever you see such selective date ranges, immediately move the range a little bit and BOOM..magic happens

Since Jan 01, 2020,  in ODI's, Jadeja averages 43 at a strike rate of 78. Decent as an overall package, gun fielder, very economical 5th bowler.

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, saneindian said:

Old trick which has been busted so many times. Whenever you see such selective date ranges, immediately move the range a little bit and BOOM..magic happens

Since Jan 01, 2020,  in ODI's, Jadeja averages 43 at a strike rate of 78. Decent as an overall package, gun fielder, very economical 5th bowler.

 

SR of 78 is very poor for a No.7 or No.6 these days.  

[putrevus]

30 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

SR of 78 is very poor for a No.7 or No.6 these days.  

I agree but that is also an indication of how bad Indian tail is, they have no batting after 7.

[figo6762]

How did hahane miss out ? 

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, saneindian said:

Old trick which has been busted so many times. Whenever you see such selective date ranges, immediately move the range a little bit and BOOM..magic happens

Since Jan 01, 2020,  in ODI's, Jadeja averages 43 at a strike rate of 78. Decent as an overall package, gun fielder, very economical 5th bowler.

Yeah because strike rate of 78 is so bloody brilliant for a #7.  

[vvvslaxman]

Bhuvi is going to come out of syllabus

[cowboysfan]

6 hours ago, saneindian said:

Unless the captain and TM panic, we will play six bowlers through the tournament. 2 out of Bumrah, Siraj, with Shami as only the 3rd choice, Kuldeep, Hardik, Jadeja and Shardul/ Axar. On spinning or slower lower pitches at Chennai, Lucknow etc, Kuldeep, Jadeja and Axar all three likely to play.

 

A decent enough bowling unit. Hopefully BCCI will not prepare flat roads where even 360-370 isn't safe.

 

they are not doing this in Asia cup but this is the way to go even if a long tail.i would rather play Axar than Thakur on indian pitches.

[vvvslaxman]

16 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

 

they are not doing this in Asia cup but this is the way to go even if a long tail.i would rather play Axar than Thakur on indian pitches.

 

3 left arm spin option will be a hardsell against a side that has a few lefties

[Leggie]

Non Selected 11 - (Hardik - We can make 2-3 teams and win any competition )

 

1. Rituraj Gaikwad

2. Yashaswi Jaiswal

3. Venkatesh Iyer (Batting Allrounder)

4. Sanju Samson (Wicket Keeper)

5. Tilak Varma (Batting Allrounder)

6. Rinku Singh

7. Washington Sundar (Bowling Allrounder) / Shivam Dubey (Batting Allrounder)

8. Deepak Chahar (Bowling Allrounder)

9. Bhuvneshwar Kumar / Arshdeep Singh

10. Umran Malik / Prasidh Krishna

11. Ravi Bishnoi / Yuzvendra Chahal

 

[Leggie]

Lord Thakur 

[Adamant]

The team is playing Jadeja at the wrong position, so it's more of the team's fault. 

He need to play at 4.

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yeah because strike rate of 78 is so bloody brilliant for a #7.  

So what will number 7 do if tail cannot even hold the bat? what is he supposed to do?

[Nikhil_cric]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

So what will number 7 do if tail cannot even hold the bat? what is he supposed to do?

 

Weren't you one of those supporting Shardul Thakur's inclusion at #8 for his batting? Now you're saying that Jadeja can't bat fast because nobody can hold a bat below him? 

 

I suppose Shardul didn't bat well in the last match because he knows the ones below him can't hold a bat

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

Weren't you one of those supporting Shardul Thakur's inclusion at #8 for his batting? Now you're saying that Jadeja can't bat fast because nobody can hold a bat below him? 

 

I suppose Shardul didn't bat well in the last match because he knows the ones below him can't hold a bat

How many matches has Thakur batted? Jadeja is no world beater but he is the best we got.he is an excellent fielder .

 

Jadeja and Thakur are a must for this team. It is not their fault Indian team in so unbalanced.

 

So let me get this straight Thakur at number 8 has to score runs every match? Otherwise  he is a failure.

 

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by putrevus

[putrevus]

19 minutes ago, Adamant said:

The team is playing Jadeja at the wrong position, so it's more of the team's fault. 

He need to play at 4.

Maybe that is not a bad option.

[AuxiliA]

Jadeja is in the ODI team mainly because none of our main batsmen can bowl even a bit. If they did we could have had someone like SKY at no 7. 

 

We don't have any genuine spin batting AR atm. Since the WC is in India, Jadeja isn't a bad choice. He's a great fielder and his bowling will be Ok at home. Even though he's not a big hitter he still can score runs if used properly. 

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

8 minutes ago, putrevus said:

How many matches has Thakur batted? Jadeja is no world beater but he is the best we got.he is an excellent fielder .

 

Jadeja and Thakur are a must for this team. It is not their fault Indian team in so unbalanced.

 

So let me get this straight Thakur at number 8 has to score runs every match? Otherwise  he is a failure.

 

 

Forget number 8. Let's look at Jadeja in ODI's against a few decent sides over a long period of time.  

 

From Oct 11, 2014,

 

Opponents: OZ, ENG, NZ, PAK, SL, SA

 

Batting innings : 32 . Not outs 11 .  Runs  - 608

 

Batting average : 28.95 ; Strike rate :  83.63

 

Basically, will give you 19 runs an innings at 83 strike rate while batting . What a great finisher! Mashallah!

 

 

Bowling innings :  40 .   Wickets - 30 .  Bowling average - 64.80 , Economy - 5.22, Strike rate - 74.4  

 

Oh, and not to mention Sir Fraudeja will now only bowl in the middle overs as seen in that Chennai ODI where he can dart and not look for wickets.   Unlike Axar who bowled in the PP and at the death.  If you are a bowling all-rounder as he pretends to be , you have to look for wickets or you're a waste of space.

 

Basically the biggest fraud in this lineup and in the squad.

 

 

 

 

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Forget number 8. Let's look at Jadeja in ODI's against a few decent sides over a long period of time.  

 

From Oct 11, 2014,

 

Opponents: OZ, ENG, NZ, PAK, SL, SA

 

Batting innings : 32 . Not outs 11 .  Runs  - 608

 

Batting average : 28.95 ; Strike rate :  83.63

 

Basically, will give you 19 runs an innings at 83 strike rate while batting . What a great finisher! Mashallah!

 

 

Bowling innings :  40 .   Wickets - 30 .  Bowling average - 64.80 , Economy - 5.22, Strike rate - 74.4  

 

Oh, and not to mention Sir Fraudeja will now only bowl in the middle overs as seen in that Chennai ODI where he can dart and not look for wickets.   Unlike Axar who bowled in the PP and at the death.  If you are a bowling all-rounder as he pretends to be , you have to look for wickets or you're a waste of space.

 

Basically the biggest fraud in this lineup and in the squad.

 

 

 

 

care to post the figures of Axar??

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

13 minutes ago, putrevus said:

care to post the figures of Axar??

 

 

Axar, if he plays, will play at 8, not at 7 if the team needs extra batting depth.   Jadeja in reality is competing with Washington and Washington has definitely shown more ability to hit than Jadeja. He was hitting Henry and Milne at the death when we toured NZ.

 

Also, Hardik is a much superior player at #7 against top sides.  Average of 35 and strike of 117 while offering a wicket taking threat as well.  

 

Just play the extra batter in the top 6 like Varma and get a few overs.  Jadeja's bowling is hardly better than a part-timer as I've shown.