SRT100 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Norman said: Not true . We still have the same exact batting depth as we had with Pandya. Thakur's batting exists only in theory...It's our bowling that got affected more with this but Shami's form has pretty much negated this so far. Hope it remains the same... @express bowling actually showed Thakur's recent batting for ODI's for India. He is not doing anything at all with the bat. Its that useless, I would rather have a few posters in here bat for India instead of him. raki05, Norman and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
Norman Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Can we give an emergency CAA to brother Rachin Ravindra.. Would be a perfect replacement at this point. SRT100, raki05, IndianRenegade and 1 other 4 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Norman said: Can we give an emergency CAA to brother Rachin Ravindra.. Would be a perfect replacement at this point. Our selection panel is so biased, that Rachin wouldnt even make a C grade team of India. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, raki05 said: Also BCCI should try to find and groom new allrounders. In domestic it should be mandatory that all batsmen have to bowl few overs and bowlers have to contribute with bat, what else domestic tournaments are there for?? 27 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: True..as we have seen Bumrah's batting improved. Likes of Shami, Kuldeep's batting has been downgraded. Even Prasidh, Siraj are also hopeless with the bat. Raj Bawa who is pinned as next gen pace allrounder is batting at no 7, and bowling only 1-2 overs per game, I wonder how he will develop as he has to smash from bowl one. While has been like Rishi Dhawan are batting at no 3/4 and sharing new ball with their trundling pace of 115 kph. Arey bhaiya ye jitne selectors bante hai na ye saare free ka Paisa khate hai In motherchordo ka koi vision ya intention nahi hota to improve Indian cricket Bhai zonal selectors kyu hote hain,to tap into great and skilled cricketers from their zones As you said,Bawa should have been marked by atleast NZ selectors and made necessary efforts to develop such cricketers who can serve Indian cricket for long time successfully,but they choose not to Why would they burn their fats to make some meaningful contribution rather than gulping more more and money and liquor? Abe itna sa kaam nahi kar sakte jha potential greats ko mark karo,aur unpe kaam karo Kam se kam tum hi Karo Agarkar Bhai,par tumse bh expect karna faltu hai Edited November 4, 2023 by Suhaan rollingstoned, singhvivek141, nitinbwj and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 I hope SKY forgets that this is an ODI and plays like a T20 beast just for 2 important days and IF he fires and its a big IF.... He will win the match on a canter. SRT100 and raki05 2 Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Norman said: Can we give an emergency CAA to brother Rachin Ravindra.. Would be a perfect replacement at this point. He doesn't give a **** about India and makes it a point every time that he is a KIWI and rightly so. 'Brother' Rachin should be hammered for sixes and skittled for zero if NZ plays against us in SF. SRT100 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: I hope SKY forgets that this is an ODI and plays like a T20 beast just for 2 important days and IF he fires and its a big IF.... He will win the match on a canter. Hitman is the other player I believe in. He bats deep into the 40+ overs and India win. Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Just now, nitinbwj said: He doesn't give a **** about India and makes it a point every time that he is a KIWI and rightly so. 'Brother' Rachin should be hammered for sixes and skittled for zero if NZ plays against us in SF. Ive seen the same with younger Indians in Australia, feel the same way. The irony being is that Australia will never really accept them as an Aussie. At least in NZ, it is genuinely a bit different. They are viewed as Kiwi's. nitinbwj 1 Link to comment
Number Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Big big blow. I wonder what happened there as it looked like a non-serious one at first. We will miss his batting the most as SKY is just so unreliable in this format. Even Samson would be a better replacement at no. 6. I understand that he himself must be hurting the most and this is something not in his hands.. but yeah, relying on him for a long tournament is like relying on car to pull you through a 2000 km drive which doesn't have a spare tyre. rollingstoned and Lord 1 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 SKY is an inferior batsman to Pandya at this point and we will also lose the overs that Pandya would have bowled when fully fit. Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Arey bhaiya ye jitne selectors bante hai na ye saare free ka Paisa khate hai In motherchordo ka koi vision ya intention nahi hota to improve Indian cricket Bhai zonal selectors kyu hote hain,to tap into great and skilled cricketers from their zones As you said,Bawa should have been marked by atleast NZ selectors and made necessary efforts to develop such cricketers who can serve Indian cricket for long time successfully,but they choose not to Why would they burn their fats to make some meaningful contribution rather than gulping more more and money and liquor? Abe itna sa kaam nahi kar sakte jha potential greats ko mark karo,aur unpe kaam karo Kam se kam tum hi Karo Agarkar Bhai,par tumse bh expect karna faltu hai One reason for this is ... after Amarnath and before Agarkar, all the Chief Selectors were really low profile guys who were basically puppets in the hands of administrators who pushed their quota picks. Even Amarnath was kicked out because he tried to take a cricketing decision. We can all see that the period when Bumrah and Prasidh were injured could have been used to groom the next generation quality quicks like Bumrah etc. But was used to give chance to quota picks like Mukesh and Unadkat. This is a classic case of lack of vision and quota picks at play. Selectors should be allowed to function independently ( pre-requisite being that high quality selectors are picked in the first place ). But that hasn't happened in the last 12 years. Agarkar's case maybe different. Let's see. Suhaan, Lord, SRT100 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Majestic said: SKY is an inferior batsman to Pandya at this point and we will also lose the overs that Pandya would have bowled when fully fit. He is the ONLY effortless six hitter we have after Sharma,Iyer and if he stays for any length of time,runs will come quick. Already hit a good 49 on a testing track in quick time. How he performs in a KO remains to be seen SRT100 1 Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Can the TM promote him to do the damage upfront ans surprise the Opposition if the opportunity arises. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: One reason for this is ... after Amarnath and before Agarkar, all the Chief Selectors were really low profile guys who were basically puppets in the hands of administrators who pushed their quota picks. Even Amarnath was kicked out because he tried to take a cricketing decision. We can all see that the period when Bumrah and Prasidh were injured could have been used to groom the next generation quality quicks like Bumrah etc. But was used to give chance to quota picks like Mukesh and Unadkat. This is a classic case of lack of vision and quota picks at play. Selectors should be allowed to function independently ( pre-requisite being that high quality selectors are picked in the first place ). But that hasn't happened in the last 12 years. Agarkar's case maybe different. Let's see. Part of blame lies to the state association as well. Every state need to identify & promote their "next gen" players up the ladder. Players like Rishi Dhawan, Mandeep Singh who don't have much upside left shouldn't be made captain of their respective teams. As mediocrity will only promote mediocrity. express bowling and SRT100 1 1 Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Kind of double whammy... not only can Hardik bowl 10 overs if needed but was able to get us som important breakthroughs when needed. He is much more reliable batter even if not as flamboyant as SKY. Rohit had his task cut out against NZ when they took on Kuldeep. Hardik was our insurance against that, now we don't have an contingency if the opposition attacks on of our bowler or if they freak down. All this for an unstoppable boundary against Bangladesh. rollingstoned and Lord 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: Part of blame lies to the state association as well. Every state need to identify & promote their "next gen" players up the ladder. Players like Rishi Dhawan, Mandeep Singh who don't have much upside left shouldn't be made captain of their respective teams. As mediocrity will only promote mediocrity. State association have jugaadu mentality they aren't bother They select the readymade selectors unlike national board(dare I say) singhvivek141 and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) On 11/4/2023 at 11:24 AM, singhvivek141 said: Part of blame lies to the state association as well. Every state need to identify & promote their "next gen" players up the ladder. Players like Rishi Dhawan, Mandeep Singh who don't have much upside left shouldn't be made captain of their respective teams. As mediocrity will only promote mediocrity. I still can't forget Prasidh warming the bench for many years despite an FC average of high teens and Vinay, Aravind and Mithun playing. Edited November 6, 2023 by express bowling singhvivek141, rollingstoned and SRT100 1 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord said: Also why is Prasidh a replacement and not Tilak/Axar Because, in the absence of Hardik, India has to play 3 specislist quicks and cannot play Shardul. We need a backup for the 3 existing specislist quicks. We already have a backup batter in the form of Kishan. Moreover, Axar cannot bat in the top 6 or even at 7 if Jadeja is the 6. And Tilak hasn't played a single ODI and is an unknown entity for this format. SRT100, rollingstoned and IndianRenegade 1 1 1 Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: Because, in the absence of Hardik, India has to play 3 specislist quicks and cannot play Shardul. We need a backup for the 3 existing specislist quicks. We already have a backup batter in the form of Kishan. Moreover, Axar cannot bat in the top 6 or even at 7 if Jadeja is the 6. And Tilak hasn't played a single ODI and is an unknown entity for this format. Prasidh needs to get a game before the Semis considering the ned game isa dead rubber. express bowling 1 Link to comment
tapandrun Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Once only allrounder, you can pick nobody or anybody u are going to disturb the balance. Its up to batter now to post in score and be prepared to bowl few overs. Link to comment
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