Shami is in Magical form

[randomGuy]

14 wickets in 3 matches.

2 so far in the 4th one 

 

Fantastic immaculate accuracy, pace, intensity, no extra bounce as he is 5'8", perfact seam bowling, also utilising angles,just enough movement to get the edges.

 

Looking forward to see our bowling pack of 5 in the knockout(s). Has been a treat to watch so far.

[express bowling]

Consistent pace of 137 k to 144 k

Zippy skid off the deck 

Immaculate accuracy

Consistent movement both ways

Intelligent use of bouncers 

 

 

Shami hasn't  bowled this well in the last 18 months. 

[putrevus]

Shami should have had 300 plus test wickets by now.His bowling action and his skill set will work on any surface.

[Vijy]

pity that shami was not chosen for more tests. if not for the existence of bumrah, perhaps india's best pace (outdoing the faster, but less consistent, srinath)

[deathmonger]

18 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Shami should have had 300 plus test wickets by now.His bowling action and his skill set will work on any surface.

will get there.

 

2nd greatest indian fast bowler. same level as starc, haze, morkel, gillespie etc.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, deathmonger said:

will get there.

 

2nd greatest indian fast bowler. same level as starc, haze, morkel, gillespie etc.

he is better than morkel and starc IMO. roughly on par with hazel. slightly behind Gillespie, who was better for 90% of his career

[Lord]

Before Bumrah, there was Shami.

 

Our first pacer with all attributes of a fast bowler. Pace, skills, aggression,attitude.

 

Srinath used to be too defensive.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

Before Bumrah, there was Shami.

 

Our first pacer with all attributes of a fast bowler. Pace, skills, aggression,attitude.

 

Srinath used to be too defensive.

it was partly due to the lack of support. srinath had more pace/bounce and potentially a higher ceiling. but his length was always a bit too short, and his temperament could be iffy

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, Vijy said:

it was partly due to the lack of support. srinath had more pace/bounce and potentially a higher ceiling. but his length was always a bit too short, and his temperament could be iffy

 

Yes thats it defensive lengths. Also not aggressive attitude. Used to apologize to bats after bowling bouncer.

[deathmonger]

11 minutes ago, Lord said:

Before Bumrah, there was Shami.

 

Our first pacer with all attributes of a fast bowler. Pace, skills, aggression,attitude.

 

Srinath used to be too defensive.

hope siraj makes the jump too soon.

[putrevus]

12 minutes ago, Lord said:

Before Bumrah, there was Shami.

 

Our first pacer with all attributes of a fast bowler. Pace, skills, aggression,attitude.

 

Srinath used to be too defensive.

Shami is also laid back.He is not in face aggression but he has very few moving parts and his action is so repeatable.

 

 

[randomGuy]

8 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Shami is also laid back.He is not in face aggression but he has very few moving parts and his action is so repeatable.

 

 

Someone with Srinath's pace would always be more aggressive. He was/is a gentle person. Kumble had the aggression of a fast bowler despite being a spinner.

[Vijy]

Just now, randomGuy said:

Someone with Srinath's pace would always be more aggressive. He was/is a gentle person. Kumble had the aggression of a fast bowler despite being a spinner.

if you married kumble's temperament, intelligence, and aggression to srinath's pace and skills, you would get a pacer with sub-24 bowling avg in tests

[putrevus]

14 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Someone with Srinath's pace would always be more aggressive. He was/is a gentle person. Kumble had the aggression of a fast bowler despite being a spinner.

IMO that did not make any difference, Srinath was an inswing bowler for majority of his career, he learnt to straighten the ball  later in his career.

 

But one thing just like Kapil Dev,Srinath never had support at other end to maintain the pressure.So he was both  stock bowler and wicket taking bowler so captains abused him a lot. The only great fast bowler who I can think of doing well without any support at other end is Imran Khan but how he did so well is up for debate.

 

Plus Srinath pitch map was always on shorter side so he was missing bat and wickets. He mentioned in some nterviews to bowl yard fuller took him lot of time.

Edited November 5, 2023 by putrevus

[cowboysfan]

I expect a wicket every over from Shami,players are scared of facing him now.

[Vijy]

4 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

I expect a wicket every over from Shami,players are scared of facing him now.

best way to take wkts. that's how warne-mcG got a good chunk of their wickets

[randomGuy]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

IMO that did not make any difference, Srinath was an inswing bowler for majority of his career, he learnt to straighten the ball  later in his career.

 

But one thing just like Kapil Dev,Srinath never had support at other end to maintain the pressure.So he was both  stock bowler and wicket taking bowler so captains abused him a lot. The only great fast bowler who I can think of doing well without any support at other end is Imran Khan but how he did so well is up for debate.

 

Plus Srinath pitch map was always on shorter side so he was missing bat and wickets. He mentioned in some nterviews to bowl yard fuller took him lot of time.

 

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

if you married kumble's temperament, intelligence, and aggression to srinath's pace and skills, you would get a pacer with sub-24 bowling avg in tests

 

 

It wouldn't make you a different bowler but I am sure it makes some difference ...I know if srinath was aggressive, it would have made difference to even the performances of Prabhakar and Venkatesh Prasad, even if these 2 did not have pace.

 

Later on Nehra and Zaheer Khan came, they were aggressive.

[Lord]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

IMO that did not make any difference, Srinath was an inswing bowler for majority of his career, he learnt to straighten the ball  later in his career.

 

But one thing just like Kapil Dev,Srinath never had support at other end to maintain the pressure.So he was both  stock bowler and wicket taking bowler so captains abused him a lot. The only great fast bowler who I can think of doing well without any support at other end is Imran Khan but how he did so well is up for debate.

 

Plus Srinath pitch map was always on shorter side so he was missing bat and wickets. He mentioned in some nterviews to bowl yard fuller took him lot of time.

 

Zak didn't have much support too.

[dilliboy]

Unreal form...batsmen are scared to their wits facing him

[IndianRenegade]

 

Our bowling unit is treating others with disdain. Overconfidence or supremacy?