Sean Bradley Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Nerves or Steel, Gritty, Gutsy, did rode on luck. There was a ball from Shami that almost kissed his off stump. Knew that it was going to be his day today. Lord 1 Link to comment
AKane Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 2 hours ago, Suhaan said: Indian TM still thinks we can't play pace and bounce,lol My man - India is addicted to spin like a drug addict is to his drugs. Entire Indian cricket and non-cricket establishment believes in spin in cricket and satya/ahimsa/satyagraha/dandi march otherwise. Rest of the world believes in pace and 50 caliber machine guns and better. We are different. Lone Wolf and Suhaan 1 1 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 One of the most dangerous batters of this era. Single handedly took the WTC final match away from us in no time. Aus were 76/3 and then he built a solid stand of 305 with Smith in very short time. Game was lost there itself. Saw a repeat of that last night as well. Had he played the league game against us in this WC, the result could hv been different. Link to comment
Frustrated Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 In a span of just 6 months, he snatched 2 ICC trophies from Ind almost single handedly. It will haunt Team Ind for a very long time. Link to comment
Number Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 One of the most unique techniques I have seen. Very rarely I have seen a batsman who stays so much on the leg side of stumps for every bowler. Helps him 2 things 1. Even a ball on off stump gives him so much width to free his arms. 2. LBW is almost ruled out. He is in such good nick or has such good hands that he is confident enough to not miss line of the ball. He will be a menace to bowl at till someone finds him out or he loses his eye-hand co-ordination in 3-4 years. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 he is a good player but was lucky many times.. hence this loss hurts to me.. vivek04, nitinbwj and Frustrated 1 2 Link to comment
Singh bling Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) From Facebook Failed as a boy, succeeded as a man! This is picture is of Travis Head from the 2012 U19 World Cup. He scored 37 in the final as his side lost to India. 11 years later, he became Player of the Match on a far bigger occasion - the final of the World Cup - against the senior side of the same country. Furthermore, the main man for India during the final of the 2012 U19 World Cup was the skipper of the side Unmukt Chand whose century guided India to victory. Unsurprisingly, he was adjudged Player of the Match. In 2021, Chand announced his retirement from Indian cricket and shifted to USA for better cricketing opportunities. HOW LIFE WORKS! So an average player of 2019 under 19 wc is hero while indian heroes just vanished in thin air Edited November 20 by Singh bling Link to comment
nevada Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 On 11/19/2023 at 9:48 PM, Suhaan said: We tend to struggle against novelty factor,Head wasn't been up against us much Still with so much technology at service and support staff there we should have figured out his weakness We are so orthodox or dihati in this aspect Even Bangladesh would have done better in chalking out plans for each of opposition players This was one of the weakest Aus side and we let them go with the WC trophy without fuss Humiliating Didn't our bowlers dismiss him cheaply in a test series in Australia causing him to be dropped and forgotten? It's remarkable how he has turned into a big match player. WTC final and now this. And that catch to dismiss Rohit! Held on to the ball as desperately as a castaway holding onto a timber log! Suhaan 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 11 minutes ago, nevada said: Didn't our bowlers dismiss him cheaply in a test series in Australia causing him to be dropped and forgotten? It's remarkable how he has turned into a big match player. WTC final and now this. And that catch to dismiss Rohit! Held on to the ball as desperately as a castaway holding onto a timber log! Yes no name bowlers were dismissing him outside off He had so many problems,short deliveries,leftist offside problem But it shows his grit and Aussie think tanks trust on big potentials Start of the year Australia too were impressed with Bazzball and adopted it their way and adopted even better with blending precaution with it Head was advised to play his natural very aggressive game to totally bamboozal bowlers upfront,most bowlers won't bother to bowl at his weakness(although he did work on it) Australia never looked winning anything,he totally transformed their fortune I still believe loosing to this Aus side is humiliating,this has been their weakest side yet they won a WC trophy in India at the back of strategic brilliance and humongous mental strength They planned for each of Indian players but we never seemed to attack this man's weakness,and a pathetic pitch added to our misery ,short deliveries were sitting up nicely We are so low iq when it comes to outfox your opposition,we were never proactive barring the BG trophy 20-21 where we outfoxed Smith and co. Bowling at certain areas But then it was due to fresh legs and guys who didn't have any baggage of the past Need4Speed, vivek04, rollingstoned and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
nevada Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 5 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Yes no name bowlers were dismissing him outside off He had so many problems,short deliveries,leftist offside problem But it shows his grit and Aussie think tanks trust on big potentials Start of the year Australia too were impressed with Bazzball and adopted it their way and adopted even better with blending precaution with it Head was advised to play his natural very aggressive game to totally bamboozal bowlers upfront,most bowlers won't bother to bowl at his weakness(although he did work on it) Australia never looked winning anything,he totally transformed their fortune I still believe loosing to this Aus side is humiliating,this has been their weakest side yet they won a WC trophy in India at the back of strategic brilliance and humongous mental strength They planned for each of Indian players but we never seemed to attack this man's weakness,and a pathetic pitch added to our misery ,short deliveries were sitting up nicely We are so low iq when it comes to outfox your opposition,we were never proactive barring the BG trophy 20-21 where we outfoxed Smith and co. Bowling at certain areas But then it was due to fresh legs and guys who didn't have any baggage of the past Yeah, this is an eminently beatable Aussie team. They did their homework to cut off our batters' chief scoring areas and fielded like their lives depended on it, but we kept gifting them wickets instead of figuring out their strategy and reverting to our strength of scoring via timing and cricketing shots rather than brute force. It's a 50 over game, not a T20! And that pitch was a piece of garbage! We just needed a true pitch. Also, while the Aussies elevated their game, two of our former match winners had to be hidden from the action. SKY couldn't be trusted to last for even 12-15 overs, and Siraj couldn't be trusted to bowl with the new ball. You are NOT going to win a final if you have two undependable players! Suhaan 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 (edited) if we start again..and again..8 times out of 10..Aus will win if India bats first..such is the meticulous planning and perfect execution during bowling\fielding..which was perfectly suited for this sluggish pitch..during the day and easier during the night.. India will win while chasing too.. ofc there some things we can always improve and tune...but such an impact this toss had on the fukin pitch.. we could have got away with most of the other sides but you cant get away against Aussies..when top 2 sides are fighting it out..Toss shouldnt be such a deciding factor..in any of the finals..you are putting so much of the hard work of many on luck factor..chose a better venue for the finals..I dont care about the league matches..but FINALS should be given fair opportunity to both teams.. Edited November 21 by Need4Speed Suhaan and nevada 2 Link to comment
Insidious Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 5 hours ago, Need4Speed said: if we start again..and again..8 times out of 10..Aus will win if India bats first..such is the meticulous planning and perfect execution during bowling\fielding..which was perfectly suited for this sluggish pitch..during the day and easier during the night.. India will win while chasing too.. ofc there some things we can always improve and tune...but such an impact this toss had on the fukin pitch.. we could have got away with most of the other sides but you cant get away against Aussies..when top 2 sides are fighting it out..Toss shouldnt be such a deciding factor..in any of the finals..you are putting so much of the hard work of many on luck factor..chose a better venue for the finals..I dont care about the league matches..but FINALS should be given fair opportunity to both teams.. They should have gone with a patta pitch like in wankhade. Atleast it would have been somewhat fair for both the team What was the need of such used/sluggish pitch which you know would get better in 2nd innings due to Dew? Need4Speed 1 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 8 minutes ago, Insidious said: They should have gone with a patta pitch like in wankhade. Atleast it would have been somewhat fair for both the team What was the need of such used/sluggish pitch which you know would get better in 2nd innings due to Dew? In that SF game at wankhede, NZ were in the game till 32 overs of their chase, with Williamson and Mitchell still at the crease and almost bossing it. Our spinners looked completely ineffective all throughout. It looked like NZ would chase that down and create history. In the end, we won. But it is evident that the panic generated from that game had developed a sort of mental scar that our spinners are useless on flat pitches. And Aus being a stronger side than NZ must hv played a part on our TM's decision not to go for a flat pitch. Number 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 (edited) 6 hours ago, Insidious said: They should have gone with a patta pitch like in wankhade. Atleast it would have been somewhat fair for both the team What was the need of such used/sluggish pitch which you know would get better in 2nd innings due to Dew? I m fine with slow wkt too but then it needs to be slow during both the innings.. Edited November 21 by Need4Speed Lord 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted November 21 Author Share Posted November 21 5 hours ago, Frustrated said: In that SF game at wankhede, NZ were in the game till 32 overs of their chase, with Williamson and Mitchell still at the crease and almost bossing it. Our spinners looked completely ineffective all throughout. It looked like NZ would chase that down and create history. In the end, we won. But it is evident that the panic generated from that game had developed a sort of mental scar that our spinners are useless on flat pitches. And Aus being a stronger side than NZ must hv played a part on our TM's decision not to go for a flat pitch. Lmao no, our spinners did okay. They went for 6 RPO when required was 8 RPO. Sure they didnt pick wickets but we were always safe purely bcoz of score we got. Infact it should have encouraged them to back their batting and make similar pitch. Need4Speed and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 1 hour ago, Lord said: Lmao no, our spinners did okay. They went for 6 RPO when required was 8 RPO. Sure they didnt pick wickets but we were always safe purely bcoz of score we got. Infact it should have encouraged them to back their batting and make similar pitch. And kuldeep only gave like 3-4 runs in 2 overs after 32 overs. That was game changing. Lord 1 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 8 hours ago, Lord said: Lmao no, our spinners did okay. They went for 6 RPO when required was 8 RPO. Sure they didnt pick wickets but we were always safe purely bcoz of score we got. Infact it should have encouraged them to back their batting and make similar pitch. In the last 2 games (combined), our spinners hv taken a total of 1 wicket and gone for 220 runs in 40 overs. I doubt if we could hv outplayed Aus on a flat pitch. Link to comment
BlueBlood Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 The biggest issue was Rohit Sharma and Dravid. Not a single plan was made against Head. If he is the man in firm and your boogeyman you plan to get him out no matter what. Even if that meant selecting Ashwin or bringing in Siraj earlier as he's very good upfront against left handers. Instead Rohit hoped for a miracle from Shami who bowled the same to Warner and Head. It's easy to do arm chair analysis but it was mind-blowing to me that after WTC domination by Head they had no plan for him. He knew all he had to do was survive first 15 overs. Either Head is world class or team tactics were wrong. Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Can somebody please delete this thread, the wounds are still fresh, please. Link to comment
Sharjah-Harjah Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 On 11/20/2023 at 4:55 AM, Frustrated said: One of the most dangerous batters of this era. Single handedly took the WTC final match away from us in no time. Aus were 76/3 and then he built a solid stand of 305 with Smith in very short time. Game was lost there itself. Saw a repeat of that last night as well. Had he played the league game against us in this WC, the result could hv been different. Yup! Either posters here don’t know much about Travis Head or I am missing something. He’s one of the best going around. Link to comment
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